Joining me now is Chuck Todd,
Moderator of Meet the Press.
Good morning, Chuck.
Hey, good morning, Ariana.
OK, so big talker this morning
is with the debt ceiling limit.
Now, the last time we had this issue,
Democrats control both chambers of Congress.
Now that Congress is split,
Republicans say they're intent on
using the federal limit as leverage to
extract concessions from Democrats.
Now, although President Biden has agreed
to meet with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy,
the White House,
they're saying they do not plan to
negotiate on the debt limit at this point.
Now, this will be the first
Test for the new House Speaker.
So how does Kevin McCarthy navigate? Is.
I think he's in a position where
he can't do much because he he's
only speaker essentially because he
agreed to use the debt limit moment.
Use this first moment as a as
a showdown of sorts with the
Democrats and with the White House.
So unlike previous speakers who Boehner
and Ryan who both at some point said,
you know guys, we got to allow a
group of Republicans to cut a deal
and while a majority of Republicans
didn't raise the debt ceiling.
Enough worked with Democrats to get it done.
This is still going to be how it's happens,
but I think because of McCarthy's
precarious hold on the speakership,
he can't be involved.
So you're gonna have a rogue group
of eight 10-15 House Republicans,
perhaps those that sit in districts
that Joe Biden carried,
that will end up breaking off
at some point in doing this.
But it's going to be a bit more convoluted.
We're gonna have a lot more heated rhetoric.
It is going to be more topsy turvy.
You'll have gyrations in the stock market.
It will be uncomfortable.
The only winners are hedge funds.
The big losers are are are people
whose 401K's matter to them
and live off of retirement.
And we'll get there.
And I don't know what,
what will,
what will have come out of it other than
essentially unnecessary economic instability.
But I think that's that's the
that's the world we're living in
now here in Washington and I.
I think that the best you can hope for
is that it gets done at the last minute
because at some point it
will have to be done. Now.
Today is the 50th anniversary since
the landmark Supreme Court Roe
V Wade decision, which we know.
The High Court has since reversed
this ruling which was also the
first time in modern history that
an opinion was actually leaked.
So after an 8 month internal investigation,
we still don't know exactly
how or who leaked this ruling.
Will we ever get to the bottom of
this and what does the handling of
rulings in the future look like?
At this point.
I don't know if we'll ever find out.
I think that it's pretty clear
this investigation was shut down.
It was not finished.
They just there was only look
the leak was not illegal.
And since it was not illegal
there's only so much investigating
you could do if that makes sense.
If this were illegal,
if if if Congress had deemed Supreme
Court decisions before they're released
his classified material and and leaking
that was leaking of a classified document,
then there could be real prosecution
then the FBI would be involved. But.
Leaking that decision was not illegal.
It was certainly unethical to
how the Supreme Court works,
but it was not illegal.
So I think it limits their
investigative abilities here.
But I also think you have a Chief
Justice that doesn't necessarily
think finding out helps.
It's clear there's some trust
issues on this court right now.
We are.
We have gone longer than any other
Supreme Court term this century for
seeing a first decision show up.
So far, this Supreme Court has
yet to issue one decision,
not one.
This is the longest we've gone this century,
and it's among the longest we've gone.
And when you even check in the 20th century,
it is perhaps a sign this is a group
of justices that are not getting along,
but it's also maybe a sign that they're
changing the way they do decisions
because perhaps there's close holds,
however it's working.
But we're not getting
any decisions right now.
And it tells you something has changed.
All right. Thank you so much, Chuck.
Meet the Press airs at 10 right
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