>> The Chief Justice of course, denounced the leak and asked the Marshal of the
Supreme Court to investigate. But were you surprised that all nine Justices didn't
unite to issue a statement condemning it,
and would that have made a difference? >> I think they're probably still shell shocked.
I've heard that Justice Alito has been taken to an undisclosed location with
his family. The others have had their security ramped up. I would hope that
all nine of them issue a statement soon. >> Well, you raised this issue and I think it
might startle the audience. You said Justice Alito and his family have been moved for their security.
I have heard that security has been stepped up for the court
in general. Do you think that there's, I mean, we live in fanatical times,
okay? I know that and all it takes is one crazy person to do some harm.
But are you saying that there's a really increased level of concern about that potentially happening?
>> I mean, we are in uncharted waters, unfortunately. And the activists who see
this as Armageddon, as something that is completely illegitimate beyond the pale,
desperate times require desperate measures. There's the publication of all the Justice's
home addresses on a website. So I hope for the best but you have to plan for the worst.
>> Wow, that is a serious charge, Alito and his family having to be moved to
an undisclosed location. That is obviously very serious. You could see the host that was on
with Ilya Shapiro who made that claim like was shocked by it. Not like shocked enough or took
it serious enough to ask where he was getting this information from or what the evidence was.
But he was shocked and in fact quickly everybody was shocked. It pretty much spread
almost immediately. Conservative media outlets picking it up
saying that there are these rumors that they had to be moved.
The thing was what Ilya Shapiro said was apparently the genesis of the entire thing.
He said it on some radio interview and then went on Fox
and said it. And so Fox News had the interview that immediately began conversation on Fox
about it. Breitbart had the headline, Justice Samuel Alito moved to undisclosed location.
No Rando right winger says that that happens and provides no evidence, they just said it happened.
It was a thing, it was written by former Trump Administration officials cited, reports around DC,
which means literally a guy saying in the DC area. Now, Ted cruz picked it up. He tweeted,
shameful. The Biden White House is encouraging this lawless mob intimidation. Senator Mike Lee
said, public officials should never have to fear for their safety for doing their jobs.
Like when a crowd is like storming the barricades to come hang you. He didn't
have a problem with that, of course. Here's the issue, eventually after several days
of this news cycle feeding into the idea that these protesters are coming for Alito's head,
Shapiro was asked by POLITICO where he got the information.
He said, I don't have any non public sources. I forget whether I saw the rumor on twitter or
somebody told me, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, why would you remember
something minor like whether a Supreme Court Justice had to be moved to a secret location
that you thought was so serious and credible that you brought it up in multiple interviews?
He did but, I don't remember, maybe I saw it on Reddit or something. Who knows, yes,
who knows? But they already got their news cycles out of it.
There's no retractions coming. He's not gonna be banned from the air for spreading misinformation.
>> No, I mean, that's the thing that drives me crazy about this whole strategy from the
right wing that we've been seeing since before Trump was even in office, right?
It doesn't matter what the source is. As long as he put it out there,
someone will pick it up and it will spread like wildfire. And then even if there is a retraction,
which there usually isn't, it doesn't matter because the story is already out there. And then
the right has become so conspiratorial about their beliefs that it's almost like, well,
maybe that is what it is but they didn't really want you to know.
So they retracted it because they had to retract it, that kind of thing to save face. So it really
is a disconnection from reality to a level that we really haven't seen. And I thought it was also
interesting and ironic. I can't remember exactly what he said, but in the Fox clip,
the host said something about like, we're living in these really extreme times.
It's like yeah, you're the one doing it. >> You're the one perpetuating all these
extreme viewpoints and all these extreme behaviors that we're seeing from Americans. And then on
top of all that, they're gaslighting regular Americans into thinking that we're overreacting
to our rights literally being stripped away from like 50% of the population, right?
And they're making it seem like we're the ones who are being unreasonable. Clarence Thomas,
he even said that, the younger Americans have a hard time accepting things that they don't
like. That's not what this is, this is not what this is. This is our rights being taken from us.
It's unconstitutional, it's unfair, and it's very regressive and
this is nothing that we don't already know. This is all very common,
this is a problem. And they're trying to make it seem like we're the ones over reacting
to them overreaching into our actual bodies, not just our lives but into our bodies.
>> 100%, yeah, he's talking about like we're in radical times.
If you've been on this show, I've been like yeah, we are in radical times. I mean,
they're literally overturning Roe V Wade. Isn't that pretty radical after all this time? And it's
your position that you hold is so incredibly unpopular and you've tried for more than half
a century to get the American people behind you and you failed utterly every step of the way.
Yeah, radical times. Radical undemocratic times.