Speaker 1: All right. This is really a good one. Even Fox News host Larry Kudlow is now
saying to Republicans, it really doesn't seem like you have evidence that Joe Biden committed
any crimes. The example we're going to look at is from yesterday. This is Larry Kudlow talking to
Republican Senator Ron Johnson. Remember that the context here is that they supposedly have
a whistleblower or informant or an informant on a whistleblower with evidence of Biden crimes. They
or he or she is missing. They quite literally, they said we don't know where the person is and
it's all just a comedy of errors. And now even on Fox News, Larry Kudlow is like, you know,
you don't really seem to have the evidence. And Ron Johnson goes with a classic conspiracy line,
which is the lack of evidence is the evidence, because it proves that the criminality has been
covered up. This is a classic among conspiracy theorists. Listen to this, folks. This is just
embarrassing for these people, Not. Speaker 2: Biden himself as vice
president and maybe as president has not yet been clearly fingered. That's all.
Speaker 1: He is. That's actually that's correct. They I mean,
they're trying they're pointing. But there has not been a successful fingering of Joe Biden that
Kudlow is willing to admit it. Good for him. Speaker 2: And may be as president has not
yet been clearly fingered. Right. The so-called bribery allegations pay for play by a national
affecting some kind of policies. Hasn't that last step or two? Senator Johnson. We have really
fingered him, and I don't know how important this informant is. Informant? I don't know if there's
anybody else that could do it, but it seems to me that's going to leave a very big missing link.
Speaker 1: Yes. Called evidence. Speaker 2: Well, we need all the bank records.
I know James Coleman hasn't been able to get all the bank records, but let's face it, criminals
hide their criminal activity. They don't make it easy for people to uncover their wrongdoing. And
so these investigations are painstaking. You've got to, you know, pick out one piece of evidence
and try and follow that thread to the next piece. And again, when you've got a complicit,
corrupt media that won't report, oh, this shows that in terms of all the evidence, we already
do know of the corruption of the Biden family. Right. We sure like this guy president. They're
still covering up for him. It's a real issue. Speaker 1: That's a sitting senator casually
referring to the president of the United States as a criminal absent any evidence whatsoever. And
listen to what he said. The lack of evidence is the evidence because criminals cover up
their crimes and it's the media's fault. This is classic conspiracy theory, circular reasoning,
where the conclusion is assumed to be true. And if there's evidence that contradicts it,
it's dismissed as part of the cover up. If there's a lack of evidence that contradicts it,
it's dismissed as part of the cover up example. Q And on right, none of
the Q and on predictions have come true that would seem to suggest. Q and on isn't credible.
Debunks the conspiracy theory, right? Wrong. Q And unbelievers believe that the media is simply not
reporting that Q's predictions have come true, and therefore. Q is right because the media is lying
by not reporting how Q's predictions have come true. Oh, well, hard to argue with that, right,
because it's an indie feasible statement. So how do you deal with this? I don't know. How do we
prevent people from falling into this this trap? There's not a simple answer. Conspiracy theories
are extraordinarily complex, and we've had so many interviews about that. There's a psychological
component. Social, cultural. There's a political dimension. And there isn't a one size fits all
kind of solution to disabuse people of conspiracy theories, particularly lack of evidence. Is part
of the evidence. So it's like a broken record. We need to educate people and critical thinking. How
to evaluate a source of information. Understand whether a statement being made is a statement of
fact or a statement of opinion. What is evidence and what is speculation? What is accepted science
and what is pseudoscience? All of that. We need to engage with the conspiracy theorists respectfully
and empathetically, which I understand is really tough to do, because many of their
ideas are certainly worthy of being mocked. And then third one, we need to create an environment
where abandoning these conspiracy theories is welcomed rather than I told you, you were an
idiot. We need to make the environment where you abandon the conspiracy theory a welcoming one,
where it's like, it's so great that you came to this conclusion. I think this is great. And,
you know, honestly, having done this, you'll probably be less likely to fall for stuff like
this in the future, that sort of thing. But it is not an easy task. And when even on Fox News,
they are getting to you seem to kind of be lacking evidence here, you know,
that there is absolutely nothing there. And that is abundantly clear at this point in time.