PLUS ANNA PALMER, CEO OF
PUNCHBOWL NEWS, AND PEET
STRUCKER IS BACK.
PETE, I WANT TO START WITH YOU.
IT HAS BEEN OPAGE, ANDQUEOPAQUE,
THE NICEE WAY TO PUT IT, ON
EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON, AND
THE FEELING OF THE FIRST
IMPRESSION WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT
STOOD AROUND, THE
INSURRECTIONISTS WERE STANDING
AROUND LIKE THEY WERE AT A
TAILGATE.
THEY WEREN’T HIDING THEIR FACES
OR RUNNING FROM THE SCENE OF THE
CRIME.
THAT IMPRESSION HASN’T CHANGED
MUCH.
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IS GOING
ON, THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO
SEE FROM WHERE WE SIT?
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME,
NICOLLE.
FIRST THEY’RE TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT OCCURRED IN
TERMS OF BREAKING THE LAW, AND
THE SECOND BIGGER QUESTION IS,
WHY THIS HAPPENED?
I AND A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES,
BOTH RETIRED AND SOME WITHIN THE
BUREAU, LOOKED WITH BOTH
FRUSTRATION AND ANGER.
I TALLIED IT UM, FIVE STATE OF
THE UNION ADDRESSES AND TWO GNAW
RAISE.
WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO
SECURE THE CAPITOL, IT CAN DO IT
VERY WELL.
IT CLEARLY DIDN’T HAPPEN HERE,
AND FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, A LOT OF
DIFFERENT SYSTEMS HAD TO FAIL.
THERE’S A TIME TO LOOK INTO
FIGURING OUT EXACTLY THE NUTS
AND BOLTS OF WHY THAT OCCURRED.
THE PRIMARY ISSUE IS WHYSH IS
SECURES THE CAPITOL, AND GETTING
A HANDLE ON ALL THE LAW BREAKERS
WHO INTRUDED AND ATTACKED OR
NATION’S CAPITOL.
>> WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO ANYONE
WHO IS UNDETECTIBLE WHO HASN’T
BEEN IN THE POSITION, OF A
PRESIDENT INSPIRING AN ACT THAT
BECAME VIOLENT.
IS THERE POT TUR TO BE BACK ON
THEIR HEELS?
IS THAT PART OF WHY THIS LOOKED
LIKE SUCH A MISMATCH, THE
PRESIDENT’S SUPPORTERS AND
INSURRECTIONISTS DIDN’T LOOK
LIKE THEY HE MET RESISTANCE AT
ALL.
>> I SUSPECT A VARIETY OF
FACTORS WENT INTO THE RESPONSE
LAST WEEK.
WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES ACTIVELY ENCOURAGES AND
INCITES PROTESTERS TO STORM THE
CAPITOL, THAT HAS AN IMPACT, NOT
ONLY ON THE PROTESTERS, BUT
CERTAINLY -- WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW
AGGRESSIVELY WE LOOK -- I
STARTED IN THE FBI AS A DOMESTIC TERRORISM ANALYST WHEN WE
TERRORISM ANALYST WHEN WE
CREATED THE FIRST ANALYSIS UNIT.
THERE WAS ALWAYS A IMMEDIATE
PROBLEM, THAT’S POLITICALLY
SENSITIVE.
IF YOU’RE ASKING AGENTS AND
INVESTIGATORS TO STICK THEIR
NECK OUT TO LOOK INTO PEOPLE WHO
ARE BREAKING THE LAW, BUT THAT
ALSO THE PRESIDENT IS DEFENDING,
THAT WILL BE A PROBLEMATIC AREA
FOR ANY INVESTIGATIVE AGENCY TO
REALLY ROBUSTLY PURSUE.
I THINK WE’RE GOING TO FIND NOT
ONLY THAT, BUT A LOT OF THINGS
THAT WENT INTO THE BREAKDOWN
LEADING UP TO NEXT WEEK.
>> WHEN YOU HEAR CONGRESSWOMAN
SHERRILL SAY ON RACHEL MADDOW’S
SHOW, AND OTHER MEMBERS HAVE
CONFIRMED THAT SOMETHING THAT
PEOPLE WERE AWARE OF THE DAY
BEFORE THE RIOTS, THAT THESE
GROUPS WERE THERE ON TOURS WITH
MEMBERS, AND PERHAPS STAFF, WHAT
DOES THAT INVESTIGATION LOOK
LIKE?
>> WELL, IT’S GOING TO BE
INTERESTING.
THESE ALLEGEDLY ARE MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS.
WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE MEDIA REPORTING, WHO ARE BRINGING IN
REPORTING, WHO ARE BRINGING IN
GROUPS OF PEOPLE UNDER THEIR
IMPRIMATU REFORM.
IMPRIMATUR.
-- MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO MAY
OTHER MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DOING
ANYTHING BUT LEGITIMATE
ACTIVITY.
IT’S TRICKY, BUT IT’S SOMETHING
THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO.
FROM WHAT I’VE HEARD OUT OF THE