CHARITY
CHARITY IN PIERCE COUNTY. THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING
VETERANS.
VETERANS.
VETERANS. WE UNCOVERED THE LEADER OF THE
VETERANS ENTERPRISE OF
WASHINGTON, ALSO KNOWN AS THE
VIEW, HAS SQUANDERED AWAY
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF THE
CHARITIES MONEY FOR HER
PERSONAL GAIN.
PERSONAL GAIN. INVESTIGATOR SUSANNA FRAME
JOINS US WITH A MAJOR
DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CASE.
SUSANNA?
SUSANNA?
SUSANNA? >> Reporter: MARK AND GREG, NOT
ONLY DOES OF YOU HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO THE HOMELESS
AND DISABLED VETERANS IT
SERVES, BUT ALSO TO THE
TAXPAYERS.
TAXPAYERS. YEARS AGO THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON GAVE MONEY TO THE
CHARITY TO BUY HOMES FOR THE
VETERANS TO STAY IN.
BUT WE FOUND THE VIEWS LEADER
BROKE RULES TIED TO THAT
FUNDING AND NOW STATE LEADERS
ARE SAYING THAT'S ENOUGH.>>
TAKE A LOOK AT THE SINK HERE.
THE DRAIN ON THE SINK WAS
PRETTY MUCH HELD TOGETHER WITH
JUST DUCT TAPE.
>> Reporter: HAMILTON SHOWED US
THE SHABBY CONDITIONS HE LIVED
IN FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
>> THERE IS ONE KIND OF HANGING
THERE.
THERE.
THERE. >>
THERE. >> Reporter: SEWAGE FROM AN
UPSTAIRS BATHROOM LEAKING INTO
A BEDROOM.
A BEDROOM. A GARAGE RUNNING AWAY.
>> THEN MORE WATER DAMAGE HERE.
>> Reporter: HOLES FOR WEEKS IN
CEILINGS AND WALLS.
AND MULTI CONDITIONS HE SAYS
MADE HIM SICK.>> I HAD
HEADACHES EVERY DAY.
NO SNIFFING, SNEEZING.
CRAZY STUFF WITH WHAT WAS MY
BREATHING.
BREATHING. >> Reporter: THIS IS ONE OF
TACOMA HOMES OWNED BY THE
NONPROFIT THE VIEW, PURCHASED
IN THE EARLY 90s WITH MONEY
FROM WASHINGTON'S HOUSING TRUST
FUND.
FUND.
FUND. THE
FUND. THE STATES TAXPAYER-FUNDED
PROGRAM TO SECURE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING FOR PEOPLE IN NEED.
PEOPLE LIKE ARMY VETERAN WALT
HAMILTON.
HAMILTON.
HAMILTON. HE WAS LIVING ON THE STREETS
BEFORE COMING TO THE VIEW.
>> WHEN I CAME TO WORK AT VIEW,
IT KIND OF GAVE ME BACK A
LITTLE BIT OF SELF-ESTEEM AND
YOU KNOW, PRIDE I GUESS YOU
COULD SAY.>> Reporter: BUT LIKE
THE HOMES IN THE LAST FEW
YEARS, THE ORGANIZATION STARTED
FALLING APART.
FALLING APART. VETERANS WORKING FOR THE
CHARITY WERE PAID LATE, OR NOT
AT ALL.
AT ALL.
AT ALL. WE HAD DIFFERENT STATIONS.
>> Reporter: A NEW LEADER TOOK
OVER IN 2016, ROSEMARY HIBLER,
A VETERAN HERSELF WHO IS ALSO A
FELON.
FELON.
FELON. CONVICTED OF FORGERY AND
THEFT.>> EVERYTHING WENT TO .
AND THEN JUST KEPT ON GOING
DOWN FROM THERE.
>> Reporter: AFTER BECOMING THE
BOSS, STATE RECORDS SHOW HIBLER
BEGAN BREAKING THE HOUSING
PROGRAM RULES.
PROGRAM RULES. OUTLINED IN A CONTRACT.
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BORROW
MONEY, USING THE HOMES AS
COLLATERAL, WITHOUT EXPRESS
WRITTEN APPROVAL FROM THE STATE
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE. BUT A KING 5 ANALYSIS OF
PROPERTY RECORD SHOWS IN THE
LAST THREE YEARS, THE VIEW
BORROWED MORE THAN $1 MILLION
AGAINST THE PROPERTIES.
>> WE SEE THAT IS A VIOLATION.
>> Reporter: JASMINE POSADA IS
A TOP OFFICIAL AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE.
>> Reporter: ONE OF THE
COMMITMENTS THEY MAKE IS THAT
THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE
OUT NEW LOANS WITHOUT
COMMERCE'S PERMISSION.
COMMERCE'S PERMISSION. AND IN THIS CASE WE FIND OUT
THAT THEY DID.>> Reporter: AND
IF MONEY IS BORROWED AGAINST
PROPERTIES, YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO
USE IT FOR MAINTENANCE AND
REPAIRS.
REPAIRS.
REPAIRS. THE STATE SAYS THAT DIDN'T
HAPPEN.>>> OVERALL WHAT GRADE
WOULD YOU GIVE HER ON
MAINTAINING THESE PROPERTIES
THAT WERE BROUGHT WITH TAXPAYER
FUNDS?>> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A
F.
F.
F. >>
F. >> Reporter: AND F?
>> OH ABSOLUTELY.
>> Reporter: THE MONEY WAS NOT
SPENT TO FIX UP THE HOMES,
WHERE DID IT GO?
THE KING 5 INVESTIGATORS HAVE
ALREADY EXPOSED THOUSANDS OF
THE CHARITIES DOLLARS SKIMMED
AWAY, SPENT IN LOCAL CASINOS,
USED TO PAY HIBLER'S PERSONAL
RENT.
RENT.
RENT. AND
RENT. AND NOW WE HAVE UNCOVERED MORE
WAYS MONEY WAS DIVERTED FROM
THE VETERANS.
THE VETERANS. VIEW BANK RECORDS SHOW HUNDREDS
WENT TO PAY HIBLER'S PERSONAL
IRS DEBTS.
IRS DEBTS. AND HER PERSONAL CRIMINAL
DEFENSE ATTORNEY.
DEFENSE ATTORNEY. MORE THAN $20,000 EARMARKED FOR
THE VIEWS OFFICE RENT NEVER
MADE IT TO THE LANDLORDS.>>
SHE'S DOING THIS TO OTHER
VETERANS.
VETERANS.
VETERANS. AND TO ME THAT'S JUST IT'S
UNFORGIVABLE.
UNFORGIVABLE. THAT'S JUST REALLY
UNFORGIVABLE.
UNFORGIVABLE. >> Reporter: AND THERE'S MORE.
TWO FORMER EMPLOYEES TELL US
THE CHARITIES MONEY WAS ALSO
SENT BAILING HIBLER OUT OF THE
KING COUNTY JAIL.
LAST YEAR SHE ENDED UP BEHIND
BARS FOR MISSING A COURT
APPEARANCE.
APPEARANCE. >> SHE CALLS AND SHE SAID, I'M
IN JAIL.
IN JAIL.
IN JAIL. AND I NEED YOU TO COME BAIL ME
OUT.
OUT.
OUT. >>
OUT. >> Reporter: FORMER VIEW AND
PLAY ROSA REMEDIOS SAYS HIBLER
CALLED FROM JAIL, INSTRUCTING
HER TO TAKE $500 FROM THE
OFFICE AND USE IT TO SPRING HER
OUT OF THE CLINK.>> IF I
DIDN'T, I KNOW SHE WOULD HAVE
FIRED ME.
FIRED ME.
FIRED ME. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
BECAUSE SHE WOULD HAVE SAID I'M
AGAINST HER, YOU KNOW.
SHE WOULD HAVE FIRED ME.
>> I THINK I'M BEING PORTRAYED
UNFAIRLY.
UNFAIRLY.
UNFAIRLY. >> Reporter: HIBLER SAT DOWN
WITH KING 5 THIS SUMMER AND
DENIED MISUSING THE MONEY.
>> Reporter: WHAT IS YOUR
REACTION WHEN YOU HEAR THAT
KIND OF ALLEGATION?
THAT YOU'RE BASICALLY A
THIEF.>> YEAH.
THIEF.>> YEAH. I HATE BEING CRIMINALIZED.
I DO.
I DO.
I DO. BUT
I DO. BUT I CAN'T ALLOW THAT TO DETER
FROM MY MISSION AND MY GOAL.
WHICH IS TO HELP PEOPLE.>>
Reporter: WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR
MONTHS, WITH ALL THIS EVIDENCE,
WHY IS HIBLER STILL IN CHARGE?
WE FINALLY CAUGHT UP WITH THE
VIEWS BOARD PRESIDENT OUTSIDE
THEIR OFFICES IN UNIVERSITY
PLACE.>> Reporter: HI MISTER
HEAD?
HEAD?
HEAD? I'M
HEAD? I'M SUSANNA FRAME FROM KING 5
WE ARE HERE TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT THE VIEW.
MANY PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHY IS
ROSEMARY HIBLER STILL EMPLOYED
HERE WHEN OUR INVESTIGATION HAS
SHOWN SHE IS MISUSE FUNDS?
WHEN THE BOARD PRESIDENT DIDN'T
ANSWER, HE TRIED ASKING HIBLER
QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS. INSTEAD OF TALKING, SHE KICKED
US OUT.>> Reporter: WHAT YOU
HAVE TO SAY TO THE TAXPAYERS?
YES WE CAN.
>> THINK YOU FOR COMING BY,
THANK YOU.>> Reporter: BACK AT
THE VIEW HOMES, THE PRIMITIVE
CONGRESS IS SAYING, TIME IS UP.
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE
HOUSING PROGRAMS HISTORY, THE
AGENCY IS TAKING LEGAL ACTION
AGAINST A NONPROFIT.
FOR REFUSING TO PLAY BY THE
RULES.>> MADE NO BONES ABOUT
IT, WE ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING
LEGAL RECOURSE HERE.
WE HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING
CRISIS IN THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON.
WASHINGTON. WE CAN'T AFFORD FOR A SINGLE
DOLLAR TO BE WASTED.
>> REPORTER:, NURSE SAYS THEY
ARE PLANNING TO SUE THE VIEW
FOR BREACHING THE CONTRACT WITH
A GOAL OF FINDING ANOTHER PART
NONPROFIT TO TAKE OVER THE
HOMES.
HOMES.
HOMES. THEY ALSO SAY THEY STARTED DOWN
THIS ROAD AFTER SEEING EARLY
REPORTS ON KING 5. I HEARD FROM
ROSEMARY HIBLER VIA EMAIL
TODAY.
TODAY.
TODAY. SHE SAID THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING
WRONG, AND THAT THIS ENTIRE
STORY IS UNFAIR.
AND THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF
CONGRESS HAS NOT ALERTED THEM
TO ANY OF THE VIOLATIONS, SO
SHE SAYS THIS IS NEWS TO HER.>>
EVEN THOUGH YOU JUST SHOWED,
YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE SAID AND
HOW FRUSTRATED THEY ARE.
THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR HER?
>> Reporter: RIGHT.
>> HOW IS SHE STILL IN CHARGE
THERE, AND HOW COME A LOT OF
PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ASKING
THEMSELVES WHY IS SHE NOT IN
JAIL?
JAIL?
JAIL? >>
JAIL? >> Reporter: RIGHT, I THINK THE
KEY ABOUT WHY SHE IS STILL
THERE IS THE BOARD.
THERE IS TO OTHER MEMBERS OF
THE BOARD BESIDES HER, AND THEY
ARE STICKING BEHIND HER.
AND UNTIL THEY CHANGE THEIR
STANCE, IF EVER, IF EVER, IT
SEEMS LIKE THAT IS WHAT IS
HOLDING UP CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS.
INVESTIGATIONS. BUT WE DO KNOW THERE IS ONE