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LARRY: ALL RIGHT.
REGARDING THE RECENT I WILL CALL
IT A SETBACK WITH THE SAUDI OPEC
PRODUCTION CUTS AND PRICE
INCREASES YOU KNOW JOE BIDEN’S A
LITTLE TOO MUCH HUMAN RIGHTS AND
NOT ENOUGH DOMESTIC OIL
PRODUCTION AT LEAST THOSE ARE
SOME OF THE FACTORS.
ANYWAY WE’LL BRING IN A REAL
EXPERT, GENERAL JACK KEANE,
RETIRED FOUR-STAR GENERAL,
FOX NEWS STRATEGIC ANALYST,
CHAIRMAN INSTITUTE OF STUDY OF
WAR, PRESIDENTIAL FREEDOM OF
RECIPIENT, MY FRIEND AND MENTOR,
GENERAL, WELCOME, ON SET, LOVE
IT.
LOOK, THIS IS FROM DAY ONE, EVEN
DURING THE CAMPAIGN, FROM DAY
ONE ALL JOE BIDEN HAS DONE WITH
THE SAUDIS HARP ON HUMAN RIGHTS,
HUMAN RIGHTS, HUMAN RIGHTS,
OKAY?
THE KHASHOGGI ASSASSINATION
WHICH MBS DENIES, WHATEVER, I
DON’T THINK YOU CAN CONDUCT A
RELATIONSHIP COMPLEX AS THAT ON
ONE POINT OF HUMAN RIGHTS.
I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON IT
BECAUSE YOU’VE BEEN DEEPLY
INVOLVED IN THESE THINGS FOR
MANY YEARS.
>> CERTAINLY THE SAUDI ARABIA
AND THE UNITED STATES ARE
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, OUR VALUES
ARE DIFFERENT BUT WE HAVE COMMON
INTERESTS.
FOR 80 YEARS BEGINNING WITH
PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT WE HAD A
STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP WITH
SAUDI ARABIA.
IT ALWAYS OPERATED IN THOSE 80
YEARS AT AN INTERSECTION
INVOLVES WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE
UNITED STATES NATIONAL INTERESTS
AND ALSO WHAT IS GOOD FOR
AMERICA’S VALUES AND REPUBLICAN
AND DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS HAVE
FOUND THROUGH THOSE MANY YEARS A
WAY TO BALANCE BOTH OF THOSE
CONCERNS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
SO WHEN YOU PUT AMERICA’S VALUES
FRONT AND CENTER AT THE EXPENSE
OF NATIONAL SECURITY AS THE
PRESIDENT APPEARS TO BE DOING,
THAT HARMS THE RELATIONSHIP AND
WHAT IT REALLY DOES IS IT
ADVANCES IRAN IN --
LARRY: RIGHT.
>> OUR STRATEGIC ENEMY IN THE
REGION IS IRAN AND THEIR NUMBER
ONE STRATEGIC OPPONENT IN THE
REGION, WHO HAS THE MOST WEALTH
AND THE MOST MIGHT IS
SAUDI ARABIA AND ALL THE ARAB
STATES FOLLOW THEIR LEAD PRETTY
MUCH.
SO THAT IS WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND
CAN YOU IMAGINE, FROM
SAUDI ARABIA’S PERSPECTIVE,
PRESIDENT BIDEN BECOMES
PRESIDENT.
HE IS ALREADY TOLD THE WORLD
THAT SAUDI ARABIA IS AN
INTERNATIONAL PARIAH.
LARRY: YEAH.
>> NOW PRESIDENT TRUMP WIRE
BRUSHED THE SAUDIS OVER THE
KASHOGGI AFFAIR WHICH WAS A
HORRIFIC EVENT AND THEY WERE
HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT BUT HE
DIDN’T CHANGE THE STRATEGIC
PARTNERSHIP AS A RESULT OF IT.
PRESIDENT BIDEN ALSO STOP AD
MILITARY SHIPMENT INITIALLY WAS
GOING TO GO TO SAUDI ARABIA
AROUND THE TIME OF HIS ASSUMING
THE PRESIDENCY, SHUT IT DOWN,
COLD AND AT THE SAME TIME
REACHED OUT TO IRAN TO
RENEGOTIATE A FLAWED NUCLEAR
DEAL.
THAT IS WHAT THE SAUDIS SAW AT
THE BEGINNING OF THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION.
AND THEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE
ALTERNATIVES, THE SAUDIS START
TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT TO GET
ASSISTANCE FROM RUSSIA AND TO
CHINA, BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE GIVE
THE EVIDENCE THE UNITED STATES
IS PULLING AWAY AND THAT IS WHAT
PRECIPITATED BIDEN TO GO THERE.
YES HE WANTED INCREASED OIL
PRODUCTION BUT HE ALSO KNEW THAT
RUSSIA AND CHINA WERE ABOUT TO
REPLACE THE UNITED STATES IN THE
MIDDLE EAST AND HE WANTED TO
SALVAGE IT AND, WHAT HAS
HAPPENED TO US HERE, WE’RE BACK
DESTROYING THIS RELATIONSHIP
AGAIN.
LARRY: YEAH, IF WE BLOW THIS
RELATIONSHIP UP, NOW BIDEN SAYS
YESTERDAY, IT WAS YESTERDAY
THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES,
AFTER THE ELECTION THERE WILL BE
CONSEQUENCES.
SOME DEMOCRATS ARE TALKING
ABOUT, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
WILL BE ABLE TO SUE SAUDI ARABIA
WHICH IS JUST UTTER NONSENSE.
WE’LL REMOVE OUR WEAPONS, TAKE
OUR TROOPS OUT.
THAT WILL PUSH THEM FURTHER
TOWARDS RUSSIA AND CHINA WHICH
IS STUPID AND I ALSO WANT TO
READ -- I DON’T WANT TO DEFEND
THE SAUDIS HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD
EITHER.
>> IT IS NOT DEFENSIBLE.
LARRY: I AGREE WITH YOU THE
STRATEGIC VIEW HAS TO PREVAIL.
BOTH SAUDI ARABIA AND THE
NEIGHBORING U.A.E., THEY’RE BOTH
BIG PRODUCERS OF OPEC, I’M
READING THIS FROM TODAY’S, I
DON’T KNOW SOMEPLACE,
"WASHINGTON TIMES," ANYWAY, THEY
BOTH VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE U.N.
GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION
WEDNESDAY, A WEEK AGO YESTERDAY,
A WEEK AGO, TO CONDEMN RUSSIA’S
ATTEMPTED ILLEGAL ANNEXATION OF
THE FOUR PROVINCES AND EARLIER
THEY VOTED WITH THE UNITED
STATES TO CONDEMN THE RUSSIAN
INVASION AND PROTECT SOVEREIGN
BORDERS.
SO THEY’RE NOT ALL BAD.
THEY HAVEN’T DESERTED US BUT
JUST TO DROP GAS PRICE AS NICKEL
OR DIME TO UNDERMINE A VERY
IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP AND THE
WHOLE BALANCE OF POWER IN THE
MIDDLE EAST VIS-A-VIS THE
"ABRAHAM ACCORDS" JUST STRIKES
ME AS A HUGE DIPLOMATIC BLUNDER.
>> I TOTALLY AGREE.
I MEAN OPEC AS WE’VE SEEN
THROUGH THE YEARS THEY OPERATE
IN THEIR OWN SELF-INTEREST.
THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS
ABOUT, THEY WANT STABILITY
CERTAINLY IN THE OIL MARKET BUT
THEY ALSO ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF
MAKING MONEY AND THAT’S THE
REALITY OF WHAT IS TAKING PLACE
HERE AND THE FACT THAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION ALREADY PASSED UP
THE HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO PRODUCE
MORE OURSELVES IS REALLY THE
LAME DECISION THE ADMINISTRATION
MADE.
WE KNOW THE CRUNCH WE’RE IN HERE
GIVEN MARKET REALITIES DEALING
WITH OIL AND WE COULD HAVE
SOLVED THIS PROBLEM OURSELVES
AND THE FACT THAT WE’RE LOOKING
TOWARDS VENEZUELA TO HELP US --
LARRY: A HUMAN RIGHTS, VIOLATER
TO OF HUMAN RIGHTS COUNTRY.
>> HORRIFIC.
EVEN TO PUT IT ON THE TABLE AS
AN OPTION IS ABSURDITY, MUCH
LESS A SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.
LARRY: SO INTERNAL
CONTRADICTIONS.
WE’RE PRODUCING
11.8 MILLION BARRELS A DAY.
WE WERE PRODUCING
13 MILLION BARRELS A DAY
PREPANDEMIC.
THE ENERGY INFORMATION AGENCY
SAID BACK IN 2020 BY NOW, 22 WE
WOULD BE PRODUCING 14 MILLIONS
BARRELS A DAY.
THAT’S, I WANT LOWER GASOLINE
PRICES TOO.
THAT IS THE ANSWER.
YOU’RE NOT GOING, YOU’RE NOT
GOING TO SLAM BANG THE SAUDIS
INTO IT.
YOU’RE RIGHT, THEY HAVE TO ACT
IN THEIR OWN ECONOMIC
SELF-INTEREST BUT WE COULD HAVE
WHOOPED THEM ON THAT.
WE HAD THEM AND WE DOMINATED
THEM.
>> I MEAN WE LET THE CARBON
EMISSION STRATEGY OF THE
ADMINISTRATION DOMINATE OUR OWN
ECONOMIC WELL-BEING AND ALSO
INFLUENCE OUR NATIONAL SECURITY
POLICY.
IT REALLY IS ONE OF THE LAMEST
DECISIONS I’VE SEEN BEING MADE
AND IT IS REALLY UNFORTUNATE.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SUFFER THE
CONSEQUENCES OF IT AND CERTAINLY
OUR RELATIONSHIPS IN THE
MIDDLE EAST WHICH IS ALWAYS
GOING TO BE A VOLATILE AREA AS
LONG AS IRAN IS UP TO ITS
MISCHIEVOUS WAYS AND THEY ARE UP
TO IT.
LARRY: ISRAEL HATES IT AND WE
LOVE ISRAEL AND THE SAUDIS
DIDN’T JOIN OFFICIALLY BUT THEY
BACKED THE "ABRAHAM ACCORDS"
WHICH WAS A GREAT TRIUMPH OF
DIPLOMACY I THINK IN THE TRUMP
YEARS.
>> YEAH, THE "ABRAHAM ACCORDS"
ARE CRUCIAL.
THE SAUDIS WILL REALLY BE A PART
OF THE "ABRAHAM ACCORDS" WHEN
THE KING PASSES.
HE DOESN’T WANT TO VOTE FOR THAT
BECAUSE OF IS BIAS FOR THE
PALESTINIAN ISSUE BUT MOHAMMED
BIN SALMAN, HIS MENTOR IS
MOHAMMED BIN ZAYED FROM THE
U.A.E. WHO WAS THE FIRST TO
START THE ACCORDS.
>> RIGHT.
>> THE WORD IS WELL-KNOWN IN THE
MIDDLE EAST THAT MOHAMMED BIN
SALMAN THE CROWN PRINCE,
DEFACTOR LEADER OF SAUDI ARABIA,
WILL BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
"ABRAHAM ACCORDS" PUBLICLY AT
SOME POINT.
HE IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT
PRIVATELY.
LARRY: NO.
I DON’T WANT TO EXCUSE THE
SAUDIS ON HUMAN RIGHTS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A STRATEGIC
VIEW.
YOU WON’T LOWER GASOLINE PRICES