>> HELLO, THIS IS "OUTNUMBERED,"
I’M HARRIS FAULKNER, HERE WITH
CO-HOST EMILY COMPAGNO, JOINING
US IS MARTHA MacCALLUM, MERCEDES
SCHLAPP AND MARC THIESSEN, IT IS
GOING TO ROCK.
PRESIDENT BIDEN EN ROUTE TO
ARIZONA, HE WILL GO TO THE
BORDER, RIGHT?
NO.
HE WILL BE ABOUT AN HOUR AWAY
FROM THE BORDER, HE WON’T BE
VISITING IT DESPITE THE
UNPRECEDENTED CRISIS THERE.
2-1/2 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE
CROSSED THE BORDER ILLEGALLY IN
THE FAST YEAR AND WE LEARNED OF
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE DYING IN THE
WATERS YOU SEE THERE, THE RIO
GRAND.
RECORD NUMBER OF CHILDREN
ARRIVING AT THE BORDER WHO ARE
ALONE UNATTENDED.
IN JUST THE PAST THREE DAYS,
14,000 ENCOUNTERS AT THE BORDER.
THEY ARE NOT GOING THROUGH THE
CHECKPOINTS, THEY ARE FLOWING
OVER.
THIS IS THERMAL IMAGING FROM
BILL MELUGIN OF PEOPLE CROSSING
INTO TEXAS LAST WEEK AND BORDER
AGENTS ARE BRACING FOR A MASSIVE
INFLUX.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS
PROJECTING DAILY BORDER
CROSSINGS COULD DOUBLE WHEN THE
TRUMP-ERA BORDER POLICY KNOWN AS
TITLE 42 ENDS ON DECEMBER 21ST.
APPARENTLY THE PRESIDENT DOES
NOT THINK ALL OF THIS IS
IMPORTANT AND HOW DO WE KNOW?
BECAUSE HE SAID IT.
>> WHY GO TO THE BORDER TODAY
AND NOT VISIT THE BORDER?
>> President Biden: THERE ARE
MORE IMPORTANT THING GOING ON,
INVESTING BILLIONS IN NEW
ENTERPRISE.
>> Harris: IMPORTANT TO WHOM,
MARC THIESSEN?
>> Marc: MORE DEFENSIBLE HAD HE
GONE TO THE BORDER AT ANY OTHER
TIME, WHICH HE HASN’T DONE.
WHEN HE SAYS THIS IS NOT
IMPORTANT.
WE’VE HAD ONE MILLION GOT-AWAYS
FOUR MILLION ENCOUNTERS AT THE
BORDER, ROUGHLY FIVE MILLION
PEOPLE CROSS OUR BORDER AND WE
HAVE FENTANYL POURING IN OVER
THE BORDER CAUSING UNTOLD DEATHS
IN THIS COUNTRY.
IT IS FUELLING CRIME, LIKE IN
NEW YORK AND OTHER PLACES FAR
FROM THE BORDER, IT IS
DRUG-RELATED CRIME.
THIS ISN’T IMPORTANT TO THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
A SHOCKING STATEMENT?
>> Harris: THE POINT YOU WERE
MAKING, PEOPLE CROSS MORE THAN
ONCE EVEN WHEN BORDER PATROL TRY
TO SEND PEOPLE BACK, THERE IS NO
DETERRENT IN COMING RIGHT BACK.
SILVER LINING IS, IF THEY COMMIT
A CRIME AND TRY TO COME BACK IN,
WE HAVE A LITTLE, WE CAN SEE
THEM AND FIND THEM AND THEY ARE
NOT WORKING AROUND THINGS
BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WANT TO
COME BACK.
>> Marc: UNLESS THEY ARE A
GOT-AWAY AND THERE ARE A MILLION
OF THOSE.
WHAT THE CARTEL DOES, SEND
SURGES TO ONE PART OF THE BORDER
AND THEY MOVE THE DRUGS IN
ANOTHER AREA.
>> Emily: WHAT IS MORE
DISHEARTENING THAN HAVING YOUR
COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF STAND WITH AN
UMBRELLA OBSCURING HIS FACE AND
SAY YOUR LIVES ARE NOT IMPORTANT
TO ME, THAT IS THE MESSAGE
PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS SENDING WITH
PRESIDENT OF BORDER PATROL SAID
NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN
SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT TO
PRESIDENT BIDEN IT IS AN
AFTERTHOUGHT.
VISITING AN ICE CREAM SHOP?
VERY IMPORTANT.
VISITING THE BORDER WHERE
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, FENTANYL,
NEW RECORDS NONSTOP, THOUSANDS
DYING, NOT IMPORTANT.
THEY SAY NO SURPRISE BIDEN
DOESN’T THINK IT IS IMPORTANT OR
WORTHY OF ATTENTION, FOR HIM, IT
IS WIN-WIN.
WHAT IS MORE ABHORRENT, IN
DECEMBER, THREE DIFFERENT BORDER
PATROL AGENTS TOOK THEIR OWN
LIVES, SETTING A RECORD FOR
BORDER PATROL.
THIS WEEKEND, THE BODY OF BODY
NATIONAL GUARD BISHOP EVANS WAS
RECOVERED, HE DIED WHILE TRYING
TO SAVE TWO MIGRANTS IN THE
RIVER.
THE MESSAGE FROM YOUR BOSS,
COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF THE UNITED
STATES SAYING TO EVERYONE
ESSENTIALLY YOUR LIVES DO NOT
MATTER.
THERE IS BISHOP EVANS, WE JUST
SHOWED HIS PHOTO.
>> Harris: SECRETARY MAYORKAS,
IN SEPTEMBER WHEN I WAS AT THE
BORDER, HAD HAS NOT INSTALLED
CONFIDENCE FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN
TO HANDLE THE TRUTH AND THE
SITUATION IS NOT GOING TO
CHANGE.
>> Martha: CAN YOU IMAGINE IF
YOUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE
BORDER AND YOU SEE FIVE MILLION
CROSSERS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF
THIS ADMINISTRATION CROSSING
ILLEGALLY AND YOU’RE TOLD
BASICALLY THAT THE BORDER IS
CLOSED AND YOU ARE WATCHING WHAT
IS HAPPENING?
ANYBODY WHO HAS WATCHED ANY OF
THIS VIDEO KNOWS THAT IS A LIE.
THE BORDER IS NOT CLOSED.
THE BORDER IS IMMENSELY POROUS,
INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS AND PEOPLE
ARE LOSING THEIR LIVES.
WHAT DO THEY GET?
SCOLDED WHEN THEY ARE ACCUSED OF
WHIPPING PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH THE
PHOTOGRAPHER WHO TOOK THE PHOTO
AND WAS THERE SAID IT MIGHT LOOK
LIKE THAT, THAT IS NOT WHAT WAS
HAPPENING.
THEY ARE BEING GROSSLY
MISTREATED, PEOPLE PROTECTING
OUR BORDER.
WHAT IF YOU ARE A PARENT OF A
CHILD WHO DIED OF A FENTANYL
OVERDOSE AND THERE ARE MORE AND
MORE EVERYDAY AND THIS IS HOW IT
IS GETTING ACROSS.
FOR THE PRESIDENT NOT TO GO, HE
HAS A LOT OF LEEWAY, HE’S IN A
STRONG POSITION, WHAT IF
PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID I’M GOING
TO THE BORDER, I WILL BRING A
COUPLE REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS --
>> Harris: THAT WOULD BE
LEADERSHIP.
>> IT WOULD, MAYBE HE HAS THAT
OPPORTUNITY IN A WAY HE HASN’T
BEFORE AND PEOPLE IN AMERICA
WANT THE BORDER SECURE,
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, POLL
AFTER POLL AFTER POLL, GO FOR
IT, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
>> Harris: HE SAYS THAT IS NOT
AS IMPORTANT THE TAIWAN EASE
COMPANY HE IS VISITING IS
IMPORTANT, BUT WE CAN
PRIORITIZE, NOT EVERYTHING IS AN
EMERGENCY, THIS AT THE BORDER IS
AN EMERGENCY.
MERCEDES.
>> Mercedes: THERE IS SOMETHING
CALLED MULTI TASKING AND
SOMETHING YOU CAN DO, WHEN I
WORKED IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, THE PRESIDENT
WAS WORKING ON SECURING THE
BORDER, DEFINITELY A PRIORITY,
WORKING WITH BORDER PATROL
AGENTS AND DEALING WITH THE
ECONOMY, DEALING WITH GLOBAL
THREATS.
TO SAY THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT
ISSUES, FOR THIS PRESIDENT TO
MAKE THAT COMMENT IS A COMPLETE
INSULT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
THAT LITERALLY TRICKLES DOWN TO
THE ADMINISTRATION, WHERE YOU
HAVE SECRETARY ALEJANDRO
MAYORKAS WHO REFUSES TO EVEN
DEAL WITH THE BORDER CRISIS,
EVEN GIVE THE SUPPORT NEEDED TO
OUR BORDER PATROL OFFICERS AND
SO IN ESSENCE, IT IS WHY YOU ARE
GOING TO SEE THIS REPUBLICAN
HOUSE MAJORITY MOVE FORWARD
INVESTIGATIONS ON SECRETARY
MAYORKAS AND BRING TO LIGHT THE
TRAGEDY WE’RE SEEING AT THE
BORDER.
>> Harris: LOOK AT REPUBLICAN
TOM TILLIS WORKING WITH KYRSTEN
SINEMA, THE PRESIDENT COULD BE
THERE, I THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE
THINK ABOUT HIM -- SHE GETS
CHASED INTO A LADY’S ROOM BY MEN
AND THE PRESIDENT SAYS THAT IS
THE WAY THINGS GO IN POLITICS.
>> AND KATIE HOBBS CERTIFIED HER
OWN ELECTION, THAT IS ANOTHER
STORY, SHE SAYS THIS IS AN ISSUE
IN ARIZONA, FOR THE PRESIDENT TO
IGNORE EVEN DEMOCRATS ON THIS
ISSUE, I THINK IT MAKES HIM VERY
VULNERABLE AND YOU NEED MORE
DEMOCRATS --
>> Marc: IT ALSO --
>> Harris: KARINE JEAN-PIERRE,
THE ONLY FRENCH I KNOW, WENT
AFTER REPUBLICANS FOR STUNTS
WHEN QUESTIONED ON THE BORDER.
WATCH.
>> IF THE PRESIDENT IS NOT
TAKING TIME TO VISIT THE BORDER
DURING HIS TRIP TOMORROW TO A
BORDER STATE, WILL HE DO IT IN
THE NEW YEAR?
>> I ADDRESSED THIS LAST WEEK
ABOUT THE PRESIDENT VISITING THE
BORDER, I WILL NOT GO BEYOND
WHAT WE LAID OUT, WE BELIEVE THE
QUESTION I WAS JUST ANSWERING TO
YOUR COLLEAGUE IN THE BACK, IS
THAT WHAT CONGRESSIONAL
REPUBLICANS GOING TO DO TO DEAL
WITH THIS ISSUE?
INSTEAD OF DOING POLITICAL
STUNTS --
>> Harris: OKAY, LET’S TALK
ABOUT THAT.
>> Marc: IT IS NOT POLITICAL
STUNTS, IT IS A REAL CRISIS.
BIDEN’S FAILURE TO SECURE THE
BORDER IS BAD FOR THE COUNTRY
AND ALSO BAD FOR HIM AND HIS
AGENDA, HE WANTS TO PASS
IMMIGRATION REFORM IN CONGRESS.
YOU MENTIONED TILLIS AND KYRSTEN
SINEMA HAVE A BIG TO EXTEND
TITLE 42, DO SOMETHING FOR THE
DREAMERS.
WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR
IMMIGRATION SYSTEM BECAUSE WE
NEED LEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING IN,
WE HAVE 10 MILLION UNFILLED JOBS
IN THIS COUNTRY, WE HAVE A LABOR
SHORTAGE.
>> Harris: NOBODY SAYS LEGAL
IMMIGRATION IS THE PROBLEM, THAT
IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
>> Marc: IT IS NOT, WE NEED
THEM.
THIS BORDER CRISIS IS OBSTACLE
TO EXPANDING LEGAL IMMIGRATION
ISSUE THE PREREQUISITE FOR
REFORM IS SECURE BORDER.
>> Harris: MARTHA, WHEN YOU COME
UP WITH THE KYRSTEN SINEMA AND
TOM TILLIS BILL COMING, WE KNOW
REPUBLICANS OUT THERE MANY DO
NOT WANT AMNESTY, IS THAT
SOMETHING THEY COULD GET OFF THE
BILL THERE?
>> Mercedes: THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
ARE SO FRUSTRATED THEY KNOW
THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND AND
THEY KNOW THERE IS MIDDLE
GROUND.
WE HAVE JOBS THAT NEED TO BE
FILLED IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOU
HAVE COMMON GROUND.
MAGGIE HASSAN WENT TO THE
BORDER, TOO, SENATOR OF NEW
HAMPSHIRE.
THERE IS OPPORTUNITY HERE AND IT
IS SAD AND CHEAP POLITICAL
BANTER TO NOT ACTUALLY --
>> Harris: I DON’T KNOW WHY THE
PRESIDENT WOULDN’T WANT TO GET
IN ON THIS HAPPENING ON THE
GROUND.
>> Mercedes: NEGOTIATIONS HAVE
BEEN HAPPENING.
IT IS TRUE, REPUBLICANS HAVE
AGREED TO DACA ALLOWING FOR
CITIZENSHIP OR DACA NEGOTIATION,
PLACE TO MAYBE FIND COMMON
GROUND.
>> Harris: YOU THINK THAT STAYS
ON?
>> IT COULD, BORDER SECURITY IS
BIGGEST ISSUE YOU CANNOT MOVE
DEMOCRATS AND THEY DO NOT WANT
TO FUND BORDER SECURITY.
>> Harris: IT IS ABOUT
CONSTITUENCY?
IS THAT TOO FAR TO GO?
>> KAMALA HARRIS RAN ON FIXING
THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM, TWO
YEARS LATER, WAITING LET FOR
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS OVER TWO
YEARS, SO EVEN DEMOCRATS DID, AS
WELL, CLEARLY THEY DON’T CARE.
>> Harris: GLAD YOU REMINDED US
WHAT SHE RAN ON, SHE DIDN’T GET
ONE DELEGATE.
>> IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY, BISHOP
EVANS WHO DIED, THAT WAS EARLIER
THIS YEAR IN APRIL.
>> Harris: WHEN YOU GO TO THE
BORDER IN EAGLE PASS, YOU CAN
SEE THE MEMORIAL THERE ON THE
RIVERSIDE FOR HIM, IT IS REALLY
BEAUTIFUL.
THERE HAVE BEEN MANY CHILDREN