comparing different generations of ryzen in star citizen that is what this video is all about
i've got the 1000 2000 3000 5000 series got them all off ebay spent loads of money it's
taken loads of time to do all the testing so if you like this sort of content subscribe
but let's get into the video so let's just talk about how we're doing this and look at the
setup that i'm testing all this on i've got very fortunately a 400 series motherboard which means
i can test all the way from 1000 all the way up to 5000 series chips so that means all i've done
is popped each ryzen cpu in with my caller and tested it the system is exactly the same we've
got a 3080 which basically means even though i'm testing at 40 volt v it basically means that we're
not uh gpu bottlenecked in any scenario there's one where we came close but not quite and then
also i've got 30 gigs of ram in this video all that ram has been dropped down to 2600 just to
26 666 206 but it's been dropped down just to make sure there's compatibility across the whole load
of chips because if you remember back in the day when the first gen of horizon came out there was
a whole heap of compatibility issues when you're running ram too quickly so i just thought let's
just run it really slowly that does mean that the results potentially are lower than you'd normally
get with these chips the higher end chips or the newer chips i should say but it just means that
it's fair across the whole lot so that's the system it's worth saying that the reason i've
chosen this i could have potentially done the uh maybe the 800s or the 700s of each chip but why
i've chosen the 1600 or the 2600 because in the testing that i've done before there's no real
performance improvement i'm going higher than six cores 12 threads so all of these cpus are
six cores 12 threads the last thing to say is there is an asterisk by the 5600x results because
i didn't actually buy a 5600x because they cost lots and lots of money and i have a 5900x so what
i've basically done is turned off half of the chip and it then effectively becomes a 5600x
it will slightly clock slightly higher and the cache is slightly different but effectively
that chip now that i've tested this on effectively is a 5600x so there is an asterisk on there
apologies for not spending even more money than i already had that's a load of talk let's get
into the benchmarks we're going to save the most interesting results for last but here we
are in space which is not really cpu or gpu intensive and you can see the scaling there
1000 series up to 5000 series and immediately you're going to get a sense of how much the
improvement is and really how much better the 5000 series is than any of them but all of those are
playable again in space nothing's really going on but yeah that's pretty good let's move on
next up looking at the art court planet and really it's the same sort of scenarios just in space it's
not particularly heavy on the cpu or the gpu and the results are basically the same quantum travel
next a relatively heavy gpu part of the game that top result 5600x is nearly bottlenecked by the
a3080 i've got but it's not quite did some testing at 1080p just to make sure but yeah you can see
the scale again going upwards with each generation and they're all decent playable results orizon
our very own cloud city very heavily normally on the gpu in this case i've turned the volumetric
car settings down to medium so that 3080 isn't affecting the results here so all of these are
still cpu bottlenecked and you'll see the 1600 is low low phones less than half of the 5600x
and it's really then starting to hint at the issue here in the cities it is really really struggling
with all the entities everything that's going on and actually this scene here that's been taken
where i'm testing on the rooftop it's not as intensive as down below in the rest of the city so
these results are actually quite good for arizona wally's bar on microtech and really when we look
at the results here we'll see that the 5600x and the 3600 are what i'd call star citizen playable
they're not good frames for any other game but for star citizen they're really quite good in a city
i mean but for the other two results unplayable and not pleasant at all you would not want to be
in wally's park with a 1600 or 2600 it's really quite tricky to get around and just a bit of a
stuttering mess laurelville next my favorite landing location to test and i've done more
testing here than i would care to tell you and in these results again i spent a lot of time doing
each one multiple multiple runs but we'll see the results that the 5600x is significantly better
than the rest of the results percentage-wise especially uh and again it just really shows that
the 5000 series is is quite an impressive cpu set of cpus from amd they've done a really good job
the 3600 i would say is definitely playable here that's a good result again but the bottom two the
1600 i wouldn't recommend if you've got one i'd recommend upgrading the 2600 i wouldn't go out
and buy one but if you've got one and you're you're struggling for money it's definitely
you can get around and uh it's not pleasant and though those one percent lows are really quite
low and there is some significant stuttering going on but it's just about playable so what to make of
all this well firstly let's just put the obvious things out there there's a clear progression
between each generation of horizon so there's a definite improvement as we kind of expected
if you've been following this stuff at all over the last few years you will know that amd have
basically stormed back into the cpu market with really good products and the 5000 series
especially is really impressive really really good well actually the 3000 series is very good as well
so i'd say if you can possibly if you're looking for more starters and performance and you're on
the 1000 or 2000 series the obvious thing is to try and upgrade as far as you can it will depend
what motherboard you've got that would make a difference in terms of how new you can go but
a lot of people will be able to upgrade up to the 3000 and the 5000 series and obviously 5000 best
but actually i would say that 3000 series is very playable even in the cities the 3000 series 3600
gives good performance uh and so yeah if you're on the 1000 or 2000 series that's very impressive the
other thing to talk about is that obviously when you start talking about upgrading computer parts
you talk about timing and there's never really a good time to upgrade there are some bad times but
always when you're upgrading uh cpus especially at the moment gpus is just bad at the moment
full stop but with a cpu you're thinking well the next generation is coming should i wait for that
and we've got to consider the fact that right now we're getting towards a tail end of 2021
amd potentially going to release a newer version of their 5000 series with some [ __ ] around with
cash that might make a difference to performance in star citizen and then you've got intel are very
likely to soon release their 12 000 series which hopefully it will be a return to some sort of form
for intel they'll hopefully put out a decent product that is is not crazy priced and not
completely power hungry and full of heat we'll see but that will be interesting because they're using
it'll be on ddr5 as well you'll be able to use that and also uh we've got big performance cores
and then also lower power cores in those cpu so that would be interesting to see how that
affects performance if it makes area install and then obviously then looking a bit further into the
future amd will also then be releasing their next platform which again will support ddr5 and then
we'll also be looking at a new load of chips that won't be backwards compatible with the current
ryzen cpus or motherboards so again that will be a big jump and again in theory what we've
proven almost in this video today is that the newer the cpu the better you performance in
star citizen because single threaded performance is absolutely key to star citizen we know this
we've talked about this absolutely loads in this channel but until vulcan and gen
12 renderer are fully implemented in star citizen the faster and the newer cpu better ipc the better
performance from that cpu the better performance getting started so what's likely to happen is
these newer chips from amd and intel will likely perform slightly better but basically you have
to make that decision are you willing to pull the trigger now spend money and then maybe a
few minutes later you realize oh there's something better or you're gonna wait you could wait forever
and you could never buy anything but it's up to you so hopefully this has all been quite helpful
especially if you're on one of the older chips and what i would say is like the video if you
liked it subscribe like i said if you like sort of content looking at star citizen from a technical
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give me money every month how crazy is that but anyway that's enough for now i'll see you soon bye