THAN WE THINK IN COLLECTING
VALUABLE INTELLIGENCE.
HERE NOW, DAVID KENNEDY A FORMER
HACKER WITH THE NSA.
DAVID, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING HERE.
WHAT COULD CHINA HAVE COLLECTED?
BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES WAS
FOLLOWING THIS PARTICULAR
BALLOON THAT WAS SHOT DOWN OFF
THE COAST OF SOUTH CAROLINA FROM
THE MOMENT IT TOOK OFF FROM
CHINA?
>> WHAT WE KNOW FROM U.S.
OFFICIALS IS NOT A LOT BUT WHAT
THEY SAID IS, THAT PREDOMINANTLY
SOLAR-BASED COMMUNICATIONS
DIRECTLY FEEDING INTEL TO CHINA
AND IT HAD A NUMBER OF
COLLECTION ANTENNAS ON IT.
COMING FROM THE SIGNALS
INTELLIGENCE ARENA IF YOU HAVE
ANTENNAS THAT ARE THERE YOU CAN
BASICALLY INTERCEPT SIGNALS
HAPPENING HERE BACK IN THE
UNITED STATES AT A DIFFERENT
RANGE THAN YOU COULD FROM
SATELLITE COMMUNICATIONS.
SATELLITES HAVE GOOD IMAGERY,
THINGS LIKE THAT BUT THEY CAN’T
COLLECT SIGNALS TYPICALLY THAT
ARE ON THE GROUND.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT THE
MILITARY, PENTAGON, WHAT WE LOOK
FROM OFFENSIVE CAPABILITY, WAR
FIGHTING CAPABILITY PERSPECTIVE
THOSE ARE OFTEN HIGH SPEED
SYSTEMS THAT UTILIZE HEAVY
ENCRYPTION, WE DON’T TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT BACK HERE IN THE UNITED
STATES A FOREIGN NATION BEING
ABOVE US COLLECTING OUR SIGNALS.
SO OUR MILITARY OFTEN BACK IN
THE STATES HAS LEGACY SYSTEMS,
WEAKER ENCRYPTIONS,
COMMUNICATIONS THAT CHINA COULD
GRAB REAL TIME A MAJOR THREAT, A
POTENTIAL SECURITY RISK FOR US
BACK IN THE STATES.
NOW THEY KNOW TROOP MOVEMENTS.
POTENTIALLY PEOPLE, PERSONNEL
THAT WORK IN THE LOCATIONS.
TYING THAT BACK TO TIKTOK
DATABASES WHAT THEY DO FROM
COLLECTION STANDPOINT THERE.
THERE ARE SO MANY ALTERNATIVES,
HAVING SIGNALS YOU COULDN’T
COLLECT FROM SPACE BEING ABLE TO
COLLECT HERE IS A MAJOR PROBLEM.
SEAN: DAVID, KNOWING WHAT YOU
KNOW, IF YOU ADVISED PRESIDENT,
WOULD YOU TELL HIM TO SHOOT THE
BALLOON DOWN FROM MONTANA OR GOT
OVER ALASKA, OR LET IT FLOAT TO
ALASKA SHOOT IT DOWN OVER
SOUTH CAROLINA?
>> THAT IS TOUGH QUESTION.
OUR AIRSPACE IS A OUR AIRSPACE.
IF OBJECT IS UNIDENTIFIED,
DOESN’T FOLLOW APPROPRIATELY
STAGES, THEY ARE HANDLED
ESCORTED OUT OF OUR AIRSPACE
IMMEDIATELY OR THEY ARE SHOT
DOWN.
THE FACT THAT THIS WAS ABLE TO
GO OVER HIGHLY SENSITIVE
FACILITIES, BASES, WHAT WE USE
FROM ICBM, INTERCONTINENTAL
BALLISTIC MISSILES HOW WE DO
RESPONSES SCRAMBLE JETS FROM THE
COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE USE, SO
MUCH INFORMATION CHINA WAS ABLE
TO GLEAN FROM THIS IT IS VERY
BAD FROM A DEFENSIVE STANDPOINT
HOW WE RESPOND TO CHINA VERSUS
HOW WE RESPOND TO THEM, IT
REALLY HURTS OUR CAPABILITIES
AND SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO
ADDRESS.
DAGEN: YOU LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE
HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT TIKTOK AS
CHINESE SPYWARE BUT SOME
DEMOCRATS DON’T SEEM TO TAKE THE
THREAT SERIOUSLY.
WATCH THIS.
>> WORKING FAMILIES ARE PACING
THE PINCH.
THEY’RE SEEING HIGH COSTS ON
GAS, GROCERIES.
♪.
>> GOOD EVENING.
NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
>> WHEN YOU TEACH A WOLF TO
MEDITATE.
>> I’M CONGRESSMAN ADAM SCHIFF
WITH SOME TROUBLING NEWS.
>> EVERYONE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A
GUY AS QUICK UPDATE.
>> I WANT TO LIVE IN A STATE
WHERE THOSE IN POW REMEMBER
TRYING TO BRING US TOGETHER.
DAGEN: THEN SENATOR MARCO RUBIO
HAD THIS TO SAY.
>> ISSUE IS THE DATA NUMBER ONE
IT IS DATA.
THEY ARE COLLECTING DATA, SO OUR
OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES,
WHEN IT COMES TO CHINA.
IF THEY TELL BYTEDANCE OR
TICKTOCK, I WANT DATA OF
60 MILLION, 70 MILLION AMERICANS
EVERYTHING YOU HAVE ON THEM YOU
HAVE TO TURN IT OVER, BYTEDANCE
WILL CEASE TO EXIST OR SOME ONE
TAKE IT OVER.
THEY CAN USE TIKTOK TO DRIVE
VIDEO, PROMOTE MESSAGES IN TIME
OF CONFLICT CONVINCE AMERICANS
THAT AMERICA SHOULDN’T DEFEND
TAIWAN THAT AMERICA IS WRONG
ABOUT TAIWAN.
ON THE OTHER HAND SUPPRESS
MESSAGES THAT SAY THE CONTRARY.
DAGEN: I HAVE HAD TODAY, THE
TIKTOK HAS BEEN BANNED ON
GOVERNMENT DEVICES AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL, SOMETHING SIGNED
BY JOE BIDEN AND YOU STILL HAVE
A LOT OF MEMBERS OF HIS OWN
PARTY WHO WON’T GET OFF OF IT,
FOR WHATEVER REASON.
BECAUSE THEY NEED THE YOUNG
VOTERS.
WHAT IS THE DANGER OF IT?
>> YEAH.
I AGREE WILL THE POINTS THAT
WERE SPOKEN AROUND THE
COLLECTION ASPECTS.
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE CHINA
IS THE LARGEST SURVEILLANCE
STATE WE’VE EVER SEEN IN THE
HISTORY OF CIVILIZATION AROUND
ITS OWN PEOPLE AS WELL AS WHAT
IT COLLECTS AROUND THE WORLD.
THE LARGEST INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY THEFTS ADVERSARIES THAT
WE FACE IN THE WORLD.
THEY CON TO BE YEAR AFTER YEAR
STEALING TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY FROM THE
UNITED STATES THROUGH ILLEGAL
CYBERCRIME.
THEY CONTINUE TO DO SO.
INFORMATION THEY OBTAIN, HOW
THEY LOOK AT THE WORLD IS
THROUGH INFORMATION.
SO THIS IS, ONE SOURCE OF
THOUSANDS THEY HAVE BUT ONE OF
THEIR MAIN SOURCES OF
INFORMATION WHERE THEY CAN
COLLECT IT ON U.S. PERSONNEL,
PEOPLE CLOSE TO MILITARY
INSTALLATIONS, START TO BUILD
DOSSIERS, PROFILES FOR ESPIONAGE
PURPOSES AS WELL AS WHAT TYPE OF
INFORMATION YOU WANT TO TARGET.
AS WE KNOW LIVING IN THE DIGITAL
AGE, OUR KIDS ARE PLAYING
"FORTNITE," SOCIAL MEDIA, TIKTOK
AND FACEBOOK, WHO IS AROUND OUR
KIDS WHO IS PRESENTING THAT
INFORMATION, IS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT, THAT IS THE VIEW OF
THE WORLD.
THEY’RE LIVING THROUGH A SCREEN,
NOT LIVING THROUGH REALITY T
POSES A MAJOR THREAT FOR US.
I AM OPPOSED TO USING TIKTOK
FROM ANY TOMORROW FORM OR
CAPACITY, MAJOR THREATS WE HAVE
CHINA BEING OUR LARGEST
ADVERSARY IN THE WORLD.
IT’S A MAJOR SECURITY ISSUE.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE GET
OFF TIKTOK IEDIATELY AS FAST
AS YOU CAN UNLESS YOU WANT THE
CHINESE GOVERNMENT COLLECTING AS
MUCH INFORMATION ON YOU AS MUCH
AS POSSIBLE.