I went to the Gestapo,
to...
the workforce manager.
They sent me to such-and-such a building.
All of Avenue Foch was Gestapo.
I went to the building and asked for...
First I had to take a test.
He tested me in stenography, shorthand
then I had to type it. My shorthand was fine
but my typing was a bit slow
so I told him I hadn't used a typewriter for a long time...
A big Gestapo boss came in and asked "Who's she?" and he told him.
"Come to me tomorrow morning."
He was in charge of construction at Gestapo headquarters.
Meanwhile I found a cabinet containing plans,
quite important plans,
things they planned to do in case of...
Below the Bois de Boulogne was essentially a small city
with provisions and everything,
their points of departure, all the places they sent
the V1 and the V2,
all the foundations, everything.
I copied that
and I was in contact with the Queen's military attaché in London.
I met him once in the Netherlands and gave him everything
and I also gave it to...
like the Knokploeg (fighting squad) in the Netherlands,
France had a squad of Communists
and I gave them everything too.
Hold on, you traveled
from Paris to the Netherlands? -Sure.
I was stopped by three men carrying pistols
as if I was I-don't-know-what,
they shoved me into a car on a side street, onto the floor,
and brought me in for questioning.
They interrogated me until the wee hours,
the wee hours of the night,
then brought me to the...
where they wrote the "Haftbefehl", as they say,
The indictment? -Yes, the indictment.
What was the charge? "Hochverrat", treason,
high treason.
For what?
"Hochverrat'', "Spionage", "Feindbegünstigung".
"Hochverrat" is the highest degree of treason.
'Spionage" is... -Spying. -Yes, spying and abetting the enemy.
And early in the morning they took me to Fresnes prison.
When I came back from being interrogated
the doctor was waiting
and treated me all night.
I received first-class treatment.
Can you describe the interrogation?
It wasn't pleasant. They did everything you've heard about,
with the bathtub, hanging,
you name it.
I was there until the Americans reached Paris.
They took everyone out. -That's a long time.
That's a long time.
They sent most of us...
I was in prison for six weeks.
They sent them straight to Germany, and those who confessed that they were Jews...
Later I confessed that I was a Jew.
Then they put us in cells with other prisoners
and sent us by bus to Drancy.