Welcome back, everybody. We're continuing now, our
breaking news coverage, a final report from the special
grand jury in Georgia that investigated forme
President Trump's attempts to overturn the state's 2020
presidential election. That report has just been
released in the headline here as we're finding out that
the grand jury recommended charges against way more
than the 19 people who were indicted by a 38 people. 38
people are on this list. And some of the, you know, we
have the vote breakdown here. We're going through this
as we speak real time live TV. And some of the vote
breakdowns are exactly the same as people who were
indicted. And so we're trying to understand the legal
calculus what they did. Yes, political corresponde
Kevin Zarroli live for us in DC. Standing by again,
Wald and Joe ST George as well. Joe, we can start with
you. What's your initial read here again These are
people who D A will has decided not to indict for one
reason or another. So what does this really mean and
signify What's the takeaway here takeaway is that if
you're in Senator Graham's office right now, you're
breathing a big sigh of relief because an indictment
was a lot closer than I think. Certainly a lot of us
who are on Capitol Hill in Washington a lot previously
knew. I mean, yes, the vote was different than, let's
say what former President Trump was indicted on Mr
Trump had 20 yes votes to one no vote. Mr Senator
Graham's vote total was 13 yes votes to seven no votes,
one abstention. But still, this is also something this
is reverberating where you guys are across Georgia too.
I think from a national perspective, Senator L
Graham's recommendation is probably a national headline.
But in Georgia politics Purdue. Yeah, big names in
Georgia Republican politics and and real quickly here,
I think the, the how likely this indictment could ha
happened, perhaps it's a warning sign for the next
election, the next time of how close officials, let me
say this, how it may serve as a deterrent. The next
time there is something in which Mr Trump or someone's
team wants them to want them to get involved with.
Certainly you want to help your friends, but you don't
want to get an indictment. And today we're lea
guys just how close some big names in Republican
politics were close to an indictment. Well, we saw so
many more names get involved when that happened, yo
know, very publicly get involved and asking people for
money for even the to stop the Democrats because
they're stealing the election I mean, we, we very much
saw those fundraising efforts g out Kevin. What as you
continue to read through this, any, any new takeaways
Yes, Senator Lindsey Graham had a call with Georgia
Secretary of State Raffensperge a Republican and that
was pulled out of the January 6th committee in that
call. According to Rothenberger Graham was suggest
to him to look at the votes in around Atlanta. And so
you know, Graham disputes the characterization of the
call. But that specific call that was gleaned by the
congressional committee, the January 6th committee
clearly weighed on the Georgia grand jury. So that's,
you know, on a day in which we're talking about Pe
Navarro being found guilty of being in consent of
Congress, that congressional committee clearly had an
impact in what they were able to find out separately
from that Boris Epstein. Boris is someone who ran
command center for lack of a better term at the Willard
Hotel across the street from the now former trump hotel.
I'll finish this point. I'll tr to be as quick as I
can on this. Boris Epstein is someone who is still
appearing with Trump has Trump's ear currently. And so
he was able to not get recommended. I'd be fascina
to know the conversation between Trump and Epstein over
the next couple of days and how that impact it would
have on the relationship. And then finally, Leffler and
Perdue, now former senators, both in the Republican
Party you know, for them to be, you know, working with
the former president's team to try to get the results
overturned, to have them wrapped into this as well.
Just a fascinating insight into where this grand jury
was looking and, and, you know, and I would just add,
uh perhaps a foreshadowing and a reminder that folks
have an obligation to when there's a legitimate
election, acknowledge the results. Well, there's our
national headline here, Senator Lindsey Graham, very
close to indictment but the D A decided not to charge
him and others. The question now is why and what if
anything does it mean going forward in the case that
they escaped indictment here It's fascinating, more
news after this break. Stay with us.