MARIA: WELCOME BACK.
INVESTIGATING THE INVESTIGATORS,
ON SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES
YESTERDAY I SPOKE WITH TREY
GOWDY ABOUT THE DIRTY DOSSIER
AND THE 2016 E-MAIL SENT BY THEN
FBI DIRECTOR JIM COMEY.
WATCH THIS.
TAKE ME BACK TO AN E-MAIL THAT
JIM COMEY WROTE TO HIS UPPER
ECHELON STAFF, THIS IS ALSO
CONSIDERED CLASSIFIED BUT YOU'VE
SEEN IT.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT IT?
>> WELL, TAKE A HALF STEP BACK.
PEOPLE USE THE WORD DOSSIER.
IT HAS SUCH AN OFFICIAL SOUND TO
IT.
LET'S CALL IT FOR WHAT IT IS.
IT'S A SERIES OF RANK HEARSAY
COMPILATIONS PUT TOGETHER BY AN
FBI SOURCE WHO WAS LATER
DEFROCKED.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
IS WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS USED A
FIFTH TIME IN THE INTELLIGENCE
ASSESSMENT AND YOU'VE GOT
BRENNAN, CLAPPER AND COMEY ALL
THREE WHO KNOW FULL WELL WHETHER
OR NOT IT WAS USED IN THE
INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT BUT ASSS
INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT BUT ASSM
INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT BUT ASSN
INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT BUT ASST
INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT BUT ASSE
INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT BUT ASS'
INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT BUT ASSE
GIVING YOU DIFFERENT VERSIONS.
SO THERE IS INFORMATION THAT
EXISTS IN DECEMBER OF 2016 AND I
HOPE ANYONE WHO HAS ACCESS TO
IT, SENATOR BURR, DEVIN, WHOEVER
IT OPEN-MINDED, GO LOOK AT THAT
AND I THINK IT WILL HELP YOU
UNDERSTAND WHETHER OR NOT THAT
DOSSIER, THAT UNVERIFIED HEAR
SAY
HEY
HEARSAYWAS USED FOUR TIMES OR FV
HEARSAYWAS USED FOUR TIMES OR FE
TIMES BY THE UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT.
MARIA: FOX NEWS SENIOR JUDICIAL
ANALYST JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO
IS HERE TO WALK US THROUGH IT.
WHAT TREY GOWDY WAS SAYING WAS
THERE WAS AN.
MAIL THAT WAS SENT TO JIM
COMEY'S LEADING STAFF AND IN
THAT E-MAIL HE WRITES TO THEM,
BRENNAN IS INSISTING THE CROWN
MATERIAL BEING THE DOSSIER BE
INCLUDED IN THE INTEL
ASSESSMENT, JUDGE.
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
BRENNAN TESTIFIED.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S
OBVIOUSLY A CONFLICT BETWEEN
WHAT ONE SAID IN AN E-MAIL,
PRESUMED IT TO BE ACCURATE
BECAUSE HE'S COMMUNICATING TO
HIS STAFF, AND WHAT ANOTHER SAID
RETROACTIVELY UNDER OATH.
SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW AGGRESSIVE
U.S. ATTORNEY DURHAM IN
CONNECTICUT, WHO IS THE PERSON
THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS
ASSIGNED TO EXAMINE THIS, USE
THE WORD EXAMINE AND ITS FORM,
CAREFULLY, AND EXPLAIN IN A
MINUTE.
IT DEPENDS HOW DEEP HE WANTS TO
GO.
IS HE JUST GOING TO WRITE A
REPORT OF WHO HE THINKS HE
BEHAVED I IMPROPERLY OR WILL HE
USE SUBPOENA POWER AND SEARCH
WARRANTS AND GRAND JURIES AND
INDICT PEOPLE.
IF HE'S GOING TO DO THE FORMER,
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO SQUARE
ONE PACKAGED WE'LL HAVE ALL THIS
BAD STUFF ABOUT PEOPLE BUT
NOBODY WILL BE PROSECUTED.
IF HE'S GOING TO DO THE LATTER,
THAT'S WHAT PROSECUTORS DO.
THEY DON'T DO INVESTIGATIONS TO
DELIVER REPORTS.
THEY DO INVESTIGATIONS TO
DELIVER INDICTMENTS.
IF THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
EVIDENCE TO INDICT, THEY LEAVE
YOU ALONE.
MARIA: THIS IS FINGERING JOHN
BRENNAN AND BRENNAN HAS BEEN
RUNNING AROUND THE LAST TWO
YEARS SAYING THAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP COMMITTED TREASON AND IN
FACT IF THIS E-MAIL IS CORRECT,
IT IS BASICALLY SAYING THAT IT
WAS BRENNAN WHO SAID USE THE
DOSSIER IN THE INTEL ASSESSMENT,
AND THE INTEL ASSESSMENT IS THE
ASSESSMENT THAT RUSSIA COLLUDED
-- I'M SORRY, THAT RUSSIA
MEDDLED IN THE U.S. ELECTIONS,
NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP, THAT
RUSSIA MEDDLED.
>> IF THE E-MAIL IS CORRECT, IT
DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS WHAT
BRENNAN SAID UNDER OATH WHICH IS
ANOTHER THING FOR THE FOLKS IN
CONNECTICUT TO EXAMINE, WHETHER
OR NOT THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF
THE CIA PERJURED HIMSELF IN
ORDER TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK GOOD.
MARIA: DID AHEAD.
>> YOU KNOW WILLIAM BARR AND
YOU'VE SEEN HIS STATEMENTS ON
THIS AND HE JUST DID AN
INTERVIEW WITH BILL HEMER
TALKING ABOUT IT.
SEEMS LIKE HE'S GOING TO GET TO
THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE ALL GONE,
THEY'VE LEFT.
MARIA: NOT ALL OF THEM.
>>
MOST OFTHEM HAVE.
>> THE NAMES WE KNOW ARE GONE.
MARIA: THE BAD APPLES ARE GONE.
>> DO YOU THINK WILLIAM BARR IS
GOING TO PROCEED WITH AN
INVESTIGATION WITH SUBPOENAS
WITH INDICTMENTS OR DO YOU THINK
THIS WILL BE A REPORT THAT COMES
AND GOES?
>> I WISH I HAD THE CONFIDENCE
THAT YOU DO AND THAT MARIA DOES
THAT THIS WILL BE A SERIOUS
FEDERAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
BUT I KNOW THE WAY LAW
ENFORCEMENT LIKES TO PROTECT ITS
OWN.
I KNOW THE WAY THE TEAM IN
CONNECTICUT WHEN THEY
INVESTIGATED THE CIA ABUSE
WHITEWASHED THE ABUSE.
DIANNE FEINSTEIN REVEALED THAT
ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE.
IF THE NEW YORK TIMES IS CORRECT
AND THIS IS A REPORT AND NOT A
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION --
>>
.DAGEN: THEY REPORTED IN THE
WALL STREET JOURNAL ON FRIDAY
THAT IT'S A REVIEW AND DURHAM
DOESN'T HAVE SUBPOENA POWER.
>> YOU CAN ONLY CONDUCT AN
INVESTIGATION OF THIS MAGNITUDE
WHERE THE PEOPLE YOU'RE
INVESTIGATING ARE PRESENT AND
FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS
WHO KNOW HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS,
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO FIRST
BASE WITHOUT SUBPOENA POWER AND
WITHOUT A GRAND JURY.
A GRAND JURY INDICTS.
DAGEN: CAN'T A REVIEW TURN INTO
AN INVESTIGATION?
>> YEAH, BUT WHY WASTE TIME WITH
IF REVIEW.
JUST DO THE RIGHT THING.
MARIA: LET'S NOT FOR GET THE
HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, INTEL
COMMITTEE, THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE HAS DONE A LOST THIS
WORK AND HAS HAD TESTIMONY AND
SOME OF IT'S CLASSIFIED ALREADY,
THAT THEY'RE BASICALLY HANDING
OVER ON A SILVER PLATTER TO BILL
BARR AND THERE'S MORE.
ALL OF THESE INFORMANTS THAT
WERE GOING IN, TREY GO CITY
TALKED ABOUT RE-- GOWDY TALKED
ABOUT RELEASING TRANSCRIPTS
RELATED TO THE INVESTIGATION
FROM THE FISA COURTS.
WE HEARD FROM GEORGE
PAPADOPOULOS ON THIS PROGRAM
WHERE HE TOLD US ABOUT THE
INFORMANTS THAT CAME AT HIM.
THOSE INFORMANTS' CONVERSATIONS
SHOULD BE TRANSCRIBED.
WATCH THIS.
>> WHEN AN FBI AGENT SENDS IN
INFORMANTS TO SOMEONE THEY'RE
LOOKING AT, TYPICALLY THOSE
CONVERSATIONS ARE RECORDED,
RIGHT, THOSE PEOPLE ARE WIRED.
>> YEAH, I MEAN, IF THE BUREAU'S
GOING TO SEND AN INFORMANT IN,
THE INFORMANT IS GOING TO BE
WIRED AND IF THEY'RE MONITORING
TELEPHONE CALLS THERE WILL BE A
TRANSCRIPT OF THAT.
AND SOME OF US HAVE BEEN
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO KNOW WHETHER
OR NOT THOSE TRANSCRIPTS EXIST
BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN MADE
PUBLIC AND I THINK ONE IN
PARTICULAR IS GOING -- IT HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO ACTUALLY
PERSUADE PEOPLE, VERY LITTLE IN
THIS RUSSIA PROBE I'M AFRAID IS
GOING TO PERSUADE PEOPLE WHO
HATE TRUMP OR LOVE TRUMP.
BUT THERE IS SOME INFORMATION IN
THESE TRANSCRIPTS I THINK HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO BE A GAME
CHANGER.
>> WHENEVER THERE'S A WIRE,
THERE IS A TRANSCRIPT.
THE QUESTION IS, DOES THE
TRANSCRIPT SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.
WHAT I THINK HE ALSO IS
CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHY THIS
WASN'T PRESENTED TO THE FISA
COURT.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A LONG
TIME.
TOM AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT
THIS.
FISA HAS CORRUPTED FBI AGENTS.
IF YOU GO TO A REGULAR JUDGE, AS
I WAS AND MAKE AN APPLICATION
FOR A SEARCH WARRANT, PRESENT
PROBABLE CAUSE OF CRIME, YOU GET
THE SEARCH WARRANT AND YOU FIND
EVIDENCE OF CRIME AND YOU
PROSECUTE THE PERSON.
THE APPLICATION YOU MADE TO THE
FEDERAL JUDGE IS REVEALED TO
DEFENSE COUNSEL.
THEY CAN CROSS-EXAMINE THE FBI
AGENT, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL THIS
AND THAT TO THE JUDGE.
WHEN YOU GO TO A FISA JUDGE AND
MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR A SEARCH
WARRANT WITH ITS LOWER STANDARD,
NOT PROBABLE CAUSE OF CRIME BUT
PROBABLE CAUSE OF SPEAKING TO A
FOREIGN PERSON, CALL A HOTEL IN
MILAN TO MAKE A RESERVATION, YOU
CRAWL
QUAWL
QUALL
QUALIFY FOR A SEARCH WARRANT
UNDER FISA, THAT INFORMATION IS
NEVER SHOWN TO THE DEFENSE
COUNSEL.
THE FBI KNOWS THAT.
WE MAY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN
HISTORY, IN THE 41 YEAR HISTORY
OF FISA SEE HOW IT WORKS AND SEE
HOW ONE-SIDED IT.
THIS COURT ISSUES 99.97% OF ALL
REQUESTED SEARCH WARRANTS.
THERE ISN'T A COURT IN THE
COUNTRY THAT DOES THAT.
MARIA: THIS IS WHY IT'S SO
MADDENING.
PETER STRZOK AND HIS BUDDIES
OVER THERE AT THE TOP OF THE FBI
MISLED THE FISA COURT.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
MARIA: AND DID NOT TELL THE
FISA COURT THIS DIRTY DOSSIER
WHICH WAS UNVERIFIED AND
SALACIOUS WAS ACTUALLY PAID FOR
BY THE SUBJECT OF THE REPORT'S
POLITICAL ENEMIES, HILLARY
CLINTON.
>> THE REASON THEY WERE ABLE TO
DO THAT IS BECAUSE OF WHAT I
ARTICULATED.
THEY KNEW WITH CERTAINITY THAT
FISA RECORDS ARE NEVER REVEALED
EVEN IF THEY RESULT IN CRIMINAL
PROSECUTION.
MARIA: I BLAME PETER STRZOK AND
THOSE WHO TOOK ADVANTAGE.
>> FISA HAS LET THEM DO THIS AND
FISA HAS BEEN -- HAS BECOME AN
ARM OF THESE PEOPLE.
DAGEN: JIM COMEY LET HIM DO
THAT.
HE LOOKED BRETT BARE IN
IF LOOKED BRETT BARE IN
IF YOOKED BRETT BARE IN
IF YOUKED BRETT BARE IN
IF YOU'RD BRETT BARE IN
IF YOU'RE BRETT BARE IN
IF YOU'RE GRETT BARE IN
IF YOU'RE GETTT BARE IN
IF YOU'RE GETTI BARE IN
IF YOU'RE GETTINGARE IN
IF YOU'RE GETTING AE IN
IF YOU'RE GETTING A WIN
IF YOU'RE GETTING A WARRANT ON A
MEMBER OF A PRESIDENTIAL
CAMPAIGN, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT
THE INFORMATION YOU'RE USING TO
GET THAT WARRANT WAS PAID FOR BY
THE OPPONENT?
MARIA: HE WAS LAYING THEN OR HE
WAS -- LYING THEN OR HE WAS A
COMPLETELY INEFFECTIVE FBI
DIRECTOR.
I THINK HE KNEW EVERYTHING THAT
WAS GOING ON.