LOOK AT THIS.
JOSH FOX IN THE HOUSE.
AWARD-WINNING DIRECTOR FOR GASLAND AND OBVIOUSLY, I
DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OBVIOUS.
YOU HAVE A NEW MOVIE COMING OUT.
A NEW MOVIE COMING OUT.
ITíS COMING OUT TODAY.
HOW TO LET GO OF THE WORLD AND LOVE ALL THE THINGS CLIMATE
CAN'T CHANGE.
WELL DONE.
IT'S A LONG TITLE.
ITíS A MOUTHFUL.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
GREAT TO BE HERE.
I'M A BIG FAN.
YOU SHOULD PUT STAR WARS EPISODE 8 IN FRONT OF THAT.
IS THAT ALLOWED?
THIS IS THE START OF THE THIRD FILM IN THE TRILOGY AND ANYONE
WHO GREW UP IN THE 70S AND 80S KNOWS THAT A TRILOGY IS BASED
ON STAR WARS, EMPIRE STRIKES BACK AND RETURN OF THE JEDI.
THIS IS KIND OF THE RETURN OF THE JEDI CHAPTER.
AT THE END OF THE MOVIE, IS THERE NO FRACKING LEFT?
WELL, NO.
THEIR STARTING ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND THAT IS A BIG
PROBLEM.
IN AMERICA, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ACTUALLY BARRELING ON A COURSE
TOWARDS FRACKING IF WE KEEP THIS CURRENT REGIME AND POWER.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS TRILOGY IS NONSTOP EMPIRE STRIKES BACK.
THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY REALLY POSITIVE.
THE OPERATIVE WORD IN THE TITLE IS LOVE.
I WANT THE AUDIENCE TO QUICKLY SEE A PART OF THE
TRAILER
BECAUSE IT IS REALLY INSPIRING AND IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD.
TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THAT.
IT IS A FEEL GOOD MOVIE.
WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE CAN'T DESTROY?
WHAT ARE THOSE PARTS OF US THAT ARE SO DEEP THAT NO STORM
CAN TAKE THEM AWAY?
I LOVE THAT BECAUSE IT REMINDS YOU OF HOW MUCH CULTURE
THERE IS OUT THERE AND HOW MUCH BEAUTY THERE IS OUT THERE.
EVEN AMONG ALL OF THE UGLINESS WE TALK ON THE SHOW ON THE
DAILY BASIS, THERE ARE STILL SO MANY GOOD THINGS TO LOOK
FORWARD TO.
ARE THERE?
I THINK WE'VE BECOME OBSESSED WITH THE THINGS THAT
CLIMATE CHANGE WILL DESTROY.
WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE GET TO 2∞ FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE AT ONE, AND
FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES WE'RE AT 1.5∞ RIGHT NOW.
IF WE DO ANYTHING EXCEPT TURN EVERYTHING OFF RIGHT NOW,
WE ARE IN FOR A LOT OF REALLY DIFFICULT TIMES IS THE
HUMAN RACE AND AS A WORLD.
WE LOSE 30 OR 50% OF THE SPECIES ON THE PLANET.
WE HAVE 5 TO 9 M OF SEA LEVEL RISE.
THAT MEANS SAY GOODBYE TO NEW YORK, PHILADELPHIA,
MIAMI, PARTS OF LOS ANGELES.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FEEL-GOOD?
YEAH, BUT WHEN YOU ENCOUNTER THE REAL FACTS ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW FAR WE ARE ALONG THE ROAD OF NOT HAVING
DONE ENOUGH ABOUT IT AND YOU REALIZE THAT THAT IS THE HOW TO
LET GO OF THE WORLD PART OF THE TITLE.
IT IS DEVASTATING.
WHEN WE LOSE THOSE THINGS?
THE QUESTION IS ALWAYS WHEN.
THE ANSWER IS NOW.
ITíS HAPPENING NOW AND IT IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN AND
GET WORSE.
WHEN WE THINK OF THE QUESTION WHEN THAT OFTEN MEANS HOW
MUCH TIME DO I HAVE LEFT TO BE LAZY AND NOT ACT ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE?
AND THE ANSWER IS ACTUALLY NO TIME LEFT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT, BUT I HEAR YOU.
I DIDN'T
MEAN IT SKEPTICALLY.
I MEANT WHEN ARE PEOPLE MOVING, LIKE -
THIS IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
PEOPLE ARE RELATIVELY EASY TO MOVE COMPARED TO A NUCLEAR
POWER PLANT.
IT TAKES 20 TO 30 YEARS TO DECOMMISSION A NUCLEAR
POWER PLANT.
WE HAVE DOZENS OF THEM ON THE EAST COAST.
AND NONE OF THEM ARE BY THE WATER RIGHT?
NOT ALL OF THEM BUT THERE ARE DOZENS IN THAT AREA THAT COULD
FLOOD.
THE QUESTION IS ARE YOU GOING TO BET RIGHT NOW THE SEA LEVEL
WILL RISE A COUPLE OF FEET IN THE NEXT 20 OR 30 YEARS?
WE KNOW WE HAD 2∞ IN 2026.
THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO NOW.
WE HAVE TO START TO MOVE THOSE THINGS BEFORE WE GET THERE.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE SOBERING
IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW FAR WE ARE IN THE NOT
HAVING DEALT WITH THAT, THAT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE WE HAVE
LOST A LOT OF THESE BATTLES THAT WE ARE STILL FIGHTING.
IT IS BAKED INTO THE KLEIMAN.
JOSH, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES YOU WOULD HAVE A SEVERE
STORM THAT WOULD HIT A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT BY THE WATER?
THAT IS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE, HAS IT?
TSUNAMIS, ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE DON'T
UNDERSTAND IS THAT ACTUALLY CLIMATE CHANGE AND TSUNAMIS
AND VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS AND EARTHQUAKES ARE RELATED.
AS YOU CHANGE THE STRESSES ON THE PLANET EARTH BY
INCREASING OR DECREASING WHERE WATER IS, FROZEN WATER IN
PARTICULAR, YOU CAN UNBUCKLE SEAMS THAT UNLEASH TSUNAMIS.
THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF IMPACTS THAT PEOPLE DON'T RECOGNIZE.
THE ONSET OF INFECTIOUS DISEASES THAT ARE NORMALLY SEEN AS
TROPICAL DISEASES MIGRATING TO COOLER TEMPERATURES.
IT IS A VERY BLEAK PICTURE.
WE'RE SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALL RELATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE THOUGH.
MY QUESTION IS IN THE MOVIE FIRST ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE,
WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
AS A JOURNALIST AND AN INVESTIGATOR YOU CAN GET
DERAILED ONCE YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION.
YOUR MOVIEíS OVER
BY THAT TIME.
THIS MOVIE TAKES A 180 DEGREE TURN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE AND
SAYS WHAT IS IT THAT CLIMATE CAN'T CHANGE?
AND THAT IS OUR CIVIC VIRTUES.
THOSE ARE LOVE, COMPASSION, DEMOCRACY, HUMAN RIGHTS,
COMMUNITY, INNOVATION, CREATIVITY, COURAGE.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE SO MUCH OF THE CLIMATE ACTION.
THE SECOND PART IS GOING ALL OVER THE WORLD TO VISIT WITH THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY CLIMATE WARRIORS AND CLIMATE HEROES THAT
EACH ONE OF THESE INSTANCES WE DISTILL DIFFERENT VIRTUES AND
START TO TALK ABOUT THE THINGS, WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE
CLIMATE CATASTROPHE WITH ANY SENSE OF HUMAN DIGNITY
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE HER VALUES.
JOSH YOU ARE TALKING POLITICAL REVOLUTION, THIS SOUNDS
LIKE YOU MIGHT BE FOR SANDERS OR SOMETHING?
I AM A BERNIE SURROGATE.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SANDERS AND HILLARY
CLINTON ON FRACKING?
IT COULDN'T BE MORE CLEAR.
WHEN YOU HAD THE DEBATE IT SOUNDS LIKE MEDICINE KIND
OF POSITION.
LET'S MOVE TOWARD RENEWABLE ENERGY.
BERNIE IS SAYING WE DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
HILLARY CLINTON IS SAYING WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, BUT AFTER
THE NATURAL GAS BRIDGE.
WHAT IS A NATURAL GAS BRIDGE MEAN?
IT MEANS BUILDING
300 NEW FRACTAL GAS POWER PLANTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND
HUNDRED AND THOUSAND MILES OF PIPELINES, PROBABLY 2
MILLION NEW FRACKING WELLS ON SHORE IN AMERICA.
THAT MEANS AN ENTIRE REGIME CHANGE OF AMERICAN ELECTRICITY
FROM COAL KNOTS OF RENEWABLE ENERGY BUT THE FRACTAL GAS.
THAT IS A LONG BRIDGE.
THE ONLY PERSON WHO WANTS TO SPEND 30
YEARS ON ABRIDGES CHRIS CHRISTIE.
THAT IS NOT SANE ENERGY POLICY.
THAT IS HANDING OVER OUR AMERICAN ENERGY GRIDS OIL
AND GAS.
IT IS HARD ENOUGH TO DO IT ONCE.
THIS ASKS THAT WE CHANGE OUR SOURCE OF ENERGY TWICE.
AND THAT IS ALMOST A POLITICAL NON-START.
YOU DON'T FINANCE A NATURAL GAS POWER PLANT FOR FIVE YEARS.
LIKE YOUR HOUSE, YOU ARE FINANCING AFTER 30 OR 40 YEARS.
YOU NEED TO PAY IT OFF OVER THAT TIME.
THAT MEANS YOU ARE LOCKED IN TO A NEED FOR NATURAL GAS IN
THE ENERGY SUPPLY SYSTEM FOR NET DECADES TO COME IN THOSE
DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE NOW.
WE STARTED THIS FILM AT SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL AND NOW WE
ARE TOURING ALL CROSS OF AMERICA.
LET GO AND LOVE TOUR.
LIKE MY T-SHIRT SAYS.
THAT MEANS WE ARE BRINGING THE FILM TO 100 CITIES ACROSS
AMERICA THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE OF THOSE FIGHTS.
FIGHTING THE PIPELINE ARE THE POWER PLANTS OR ONSHORE
FRACKING ON OFFSHORE DRILLING.
THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY IS ACTUALLY EXPANDING RIGHT
NOW AT THE VERY TIME WE NEED TO SCALE IT BACK IN THE CLINTON
POLICY HERE IS MORE FRACKING, MORE FRACKING, WERE FRACKING.
THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW GRADUALISM
OFTENTIMES DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE BUILDING A BRIDGE TO THE FUTURE.
IT MEANS WE ARE GRADUALLY GOING TO DO THIS FOR 30 TO 40 YEARS.
WHICH THEN MEANS YOU ARE NOT PRESENT IN 30 TO 40 YEARS.
THAT MEANS THIS IS MY ACTUAL POLICY.
THIS IS WHY I AM HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
I'M SPEAKING AT THE RALLY FOR BERNIE TOMORROW NIGHT IN LA
AND THE NEXT AND SAN DIEGO.
BECAUSE FRACKING AND CLIMATE CHANGE, THOSE IN THE THOSE
ISSUES COME TOGETHER.
IF WE FRACTAL FOR 30 YEARS, WE HAVE NOTHING.
FRACTAL GAS IS THE WORST FUEL SOURCE THAT WE CAN USE FOR
THE CLIMATE.
YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN NATURAL GAS STARTS LEAKING.
METHOD IS 84 TIMES MORE POTENT IN THE ATMOSPHERE THINK
CARBON DIOXIDE IS.
IF CARBON DIOXIDE IS ONE BLANKET WARMING THE ATMOSPHERE,
NATURAL GAS OR FRACTAL GAS IS 84 BLANKETS.
YOU ARE HEEDING THE WORLD UP MUCH FASTER IN THE NATURAL
GAS COME OUT OF ALL OF THESE OPERATIONS THAT POWER
PLANTS, THERE LEAKING LIKE CRAZY.
THERE LEAKING A HUGE PERCENTAGE IS.
IN LA, 17% OF THE NATURAL GAS THAT DISTRACTS, HARVESTED,
DELIVERED AND BURNED,
17% OF IT IS LINKED INTO THE ATMOSPHERE AS METHANE IN LA.
PORTER RANCH, WHEN THAT POPPED OFF WAS THE NUMBER ONE
CLIMATE OMISSION SOURCE IN THE WORLD.
SINGLE SOURCE OF GREENHOUSE GAS IN THE WORLD.
AS I READ?
YES DIED AND WENT ON FOR FOUR MONTHS.
WERE STILL NUMBER 1.