MELISSA, BACK OVER TO YOU.
MELISSA: LET’S BRING IN CHARLIE
HURT.
HE IS "WASHINGTON TIMES" OPINION
EDITOR AND A FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR.
OKAY, CHARLIE, SORTING THROUGH
ALL THE ECONOMIC POSSIBILITIES
FOR THIS NEXT AID PACKAGE AND
YOU LOOK AT WHAT JOE BIDEN IS
SAYING HE WOULD DO AS WELL, IF
YOU ARE PRESIDENT TRUMP AND YOU
ARE THROWING GET TO THE WIND,
WHICH IS WHAT EVERYONE IN
WASHINGTON DOES, FREE MONEY,
FREE MONEY, NO ONE CARES ABOUT
DEBT, WHAT WOULD YOU DO WOULD
THINK WOULD BE MOST EFFECTIVE?
THERE ARE REPUBLICANS OF COURSE
WORRIED IF IT EXTEND THE
AMPLIFIED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS,
THAT YOU ACTUALLY CAN HURT THE
ECONOMY BECAUSE YOU KEEP PEOPLE
AT HOME.
CERTAINLY ANECDOTALLY I KNOW
PEOPLE CAN’T GET WORKERS TO COME
BACK BECAUSE THEY’RE MAKING MORE
ON UNEMPLOYMENT.
THERE IS IDEA OF CUTTING BIG
CHECKS WHICH EVERYONE LOVES,
SENDING MONEY.
PAYROLL TAX IS AMAZING BUT
EVERYONE IN WASHINGTON HATES
BECAUSE THEY CAN TAKE OUR MONEY
TO SPRAY IT AT OTHER PEOPLE.
YOU’RE ADVISING THE PRESIDENT.
YOU WANT TO JACK THE ECONOMY TO
GET REELECTED AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE, WHAT WOULD YOU TELL
HIM TO DO?
>> THE FIRST THING I WOULD SAY
IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER,
THAT YOU’RE RIGHT, EVERY
POLITICIAN IN WASHINGTON IS
DELIGHTED TO DUMP DEBT ON OUR
GRANDCHILDREN AND GREAT
GRANDCHILDREN.
IT IS THAT DONALD TRUMP ONLY ONE
SORT OF IS UP FRONT ABOUT IT.
HE NEVER CLAIMED TO HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH DEBT.
HE LOVES DEBT.
HIS ENTIRE CAREER IS BASED ON
DEBT.
SO I KIND OF ADMIRE THAT TO
BEGIN WITH.
SECOND THING, PRESIDENT TRUMP’S
RE-ELECTION ENTIRELY DEPENDS ON
THE ECONOMY.
MELISSA: RIGHT.
>> I THINK WHATEVER THEY CAN DO
TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY
WITHOUT, AS YOU POINT OUT
CREATING A, BAD INCENTIVE SO
PEOPLE DON’T GO BACK TO WORK IS
GOING TO ULTIMATELY BE
ABSOLUTELY DISASTEROUS.
SO I THINK THAT THAT IS THE
BIGGEST THING.
WASHINGTON IS NOT GOING TO BE
ABLE TO SPEND ITS WAY OUT OF
THIS PANDEMIC.
THE ONLY WAY THAT WE’RE GOING TO
GET OVER THE PANDEMIC AND GET
THE ECONOMY GOING AGAIN IS TO
GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK.
I THINK, FOCUSING ON THAT IS THE
NUMBER ONE THING.
THEN THE SECOND THING, I DO
THINK THE LIABILITY REFORM IS
PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT
REPUBLICANS WILL BE PUSHING FOR
AND DEMANDING AND I THINK IT IS
PROBABLY A VERY SMART THING.
BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THIS IS
DRIVEN BY A TERROR OF TORT
LAWYERS OUT THERE WHO ARE EAGER
TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK OFF OF
THIS.
MELISSA: SO THAT’S A GREAT POINT
BECAUSE THE LIABILITY REFORM IS
HUGE, IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN PRETTY
QUICK, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE
ALL MET PEOPLE AFRAID TO REOPEN
THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY SAY,
WHAT IF SOMEBODY GETS SICK AND
THEN I GET SUED.
I’M AFRAID OF THAT.
>> RIGHT.
MELISSA: I THINK, LIKE ANYTIME
YOU SEND, YOU WANT TO FIRE MONEY
AT POTENTIAL VOTERS FOREVER,
POLITICIANS THOUGHT THAT IS A
WAY OF GETTING VOTES, GIVING
PEOPLE CASH, BUT THE
UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE, THE
ENHANCED ONE IT IS SO DICEY
BECAUSE IF REPUBLICANS DON’T DO
IT, THEN THEY LOOK LIKE OH, MY
GOD, HERE YOU HAVE THIS HUGE
CRISIS AND THEY’RE NOT GOING TO
GIVE THIS UNEMPLOYMENT
INSURANCE.
THEY’RE EVIL PEOPLE.
IN THE SHORT TERM THERE IS
PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPACT OF PEOPLE
SAYING YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT
IS NOT GIVING ME MONEY.
HE IS TAKING AWAY MONEY.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO REALLY
BELIEVE THAT PUTTING THOSE
BENEFIT OUT THERE IS GOING TO
SLOW THE ECONOMY.
THAT IS A TOUGH DECISION TO
MAKE.
YOU SEE THE DIVIDE, PROBABLY,
WITH LIKE MNUCHIN ON ONE SIDE,
LARRY KUDLOW ON THE OTHER.
WHAT DO YOU DO?
>> SO IT IS, IT IS TOUGH BUT
HERE’S WHAT I WOULD SAY, IT
DOESN’T MATTER HOW POPULAR OR
UNPOPULAR YOU LOOK RIGHT NOW, IF
THE ECONOMY IS IN THE TOILET
COME NOVEMBER AND YOU’RE A
REPUBLICAN, YOU ARE GOING TO BE
OUT ON YOUR TOOKUS, YOU ARE NOT
GOING TO WIN RE-ELECTION IF THE
ECONOMY IS TERRIBLE COME
NOVEMBER.
THAT IS TRUER OF PRESIDENT TRUMP
THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
AND SO I WOULD SAY, TO HECK WITH
WHAT IS POPULAR OR UNPOPULAR
RIGHT AT THE MOMENT, DO THE
RIGHT THING.
BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY WAY
YOU’RE GOING TO GET REELECTED.
MELISSA: RIGHT.
BY THE RIGHT THING, WE DON’T
MEAN THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR
CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WHICH
IS TO NOT FIRE HOSE MONEY OFF AT
THE WHOLE WORLD.
BY THE RIGHT THING, WE MEAN
GETECONOMY GOING SO PEOPLE CAN
GET BACK TO WORK, FEELING
BETTER, AND ONCE AGAIN WE’LL
KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON
DEBT.
I LOVE THE WORD TOOKUS ALSO AND
YOU PROBABLY STOLE THAT BY ME.
JOE BIDEN IF HE PUTS HIS PLANS
OUT, IT DOESN’T REALLY MATTER,
IT IS ANTI-TRUMP.
HE IS SORT OF A STRAW CANDIDATE.
YOU SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT
NOW.
VOTE THIS.
GO AHEAD.
>> THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW WITH,
FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THAT THE
ELECTION CURRENTLY A IT STANDS
IS ALL ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
AND UNTIL HE STEPS BACK AND LETS
THE ELECTION BECOME ALL ABOUT
JOE BIDEN, HE IS GOING TO BE