>> Judge Judy: Ms. Kachin, you
used to work for Ms. Thomason
as a nanny.
>> Yes, Your Honor.
>> Judge Judy: And how old was
her daughter?
>> She was six years old
at the time.
>> Judge Judy: According to you,
there came a time when her
daughter wanted to go to
a cheerleading camp.
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: How old was she
when she wanted to go to
a cheerleading camp?
>> I believe eight.
>> Judge Judy: Were you still
working for her as a nanny?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: Were you doing
any other work?
>> Not at the time.
>> Judge Judy: How much was she
paying you?
>> $200 a week.
>> Judge Judy: She paying you
by check or cash?
>> Cash.
>> Judge Judy: How many years
did you work for her?
At least two?
>> At least 2, probably 3 1/2.
>> Judge Judy: During all the
time you worked for her, did you
ever file tax returns?
>> No.
>> Judge Judy: Did you live
with her?
>> No.
>> Judge Judy: You had
your own place?
>> I live with my parents.
>> Judge Judy: How old
are you now?
>> 35.
>> Judge Judy: When was the last
time you had a full-time job
that, with income reported
on the books?
>> 2017.
>> Judge Judy: For how long?
>> Three years.
>> Judge Judy: When was this
alleged loan taken out?
>> November 2015.
>> Judge Judy: According to you,
you took out a loan while you
were working for her as a nanny,
being paid 200 bucks a week
in cash.
And she was paying you that
money in cash and, yet, she
couldn't get a loan.
Was she living with her husband?
Was she living with a boyfriend?
>> With her husband at the time.
>> Judge Judy: Yes, and was
he working?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: And she was
working?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: Yes.
Well, otherwise, what would you
be there for as a nanny?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: Right?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: And they couldn't
get a loan?
>> No.
>> Judge Judy: And you could?
With no showing of any income,
you could get a loan?
Good.
Show me the loan application.
This isn't the loan application.
>> Yes, Your Honor.
I've tried multiple times to
get the loan application.
And since then, it has been
transferred to different credit
companies due to no payments.
Um, there's been like, maybe
three payments paid on it.
I've been -- had multiple health
issues --
>> Judge Judy: Uh, let's cut it.
How long have you lived at
103 [bleep]?
>> 30 years.
>> Judge Judy: And, according to
what you told me before, you
were not living with the
defendant when you were nannying
for her.
You were living with your
parents, so I assume that's your
parents' house, at 103 [bleep]?
So, you get mail there?
So, you were getting letters
every day or every month
or periodically about this loan.
I have no idea what the loan
amount was.
I have no idea.
So, let's see what other
paperwork you don't have,
Ms. Kachin.
Let me see the payment that you
made to the camp.
Because according to what I've
read, you made a payment to
the camp directly.
>> No, Your Honor, I never made
a payment to the camp.
I took the loan, and she, um --
>> Judge Judy: [ Stammers ]
Just, let's take it easy.
You took the loan, and you wrote
a check.
>> I never wrote a check.
>> Judge Judy: Well, what did
you do?
How did you pay for the camp?
>> I went into the bank with
Ms. Thomason.
She had me in hand, in the bank.
And she told me I was not
allowed to hand her the cash,
until I left the bank, in car,
and when I sit in the car --
>> Judge Judy: Listen to me.
So, what you're telling me is
you have no proof?
>> I-I do have, um, proof
that the loan is, um, here.
>> Judge Judy: No, just
a second.
I see that there's a loan in
collections.
I don't know how much the loan
was, 'cause you have no proof of
what it was.
You have no proof of what it
was, unless you do have proof of
how much the loan was.
>> On my phone, I got an e-mail
yesterday from the original
loan company, how much it was,
and what is owed on it.
Can I show you that, please?
>> Judge Judy: Yeah, I would
love to see that.
At least, that's a something.
>> Thank you.
>> Judge Judy: Would you show me
where this says what the
original loan was?
>> It doesn't show the $5,000.
>> Judge Judy: No, it doesn't --
So, the answer is -- Do you have
any proof of what the original
loan was?
The answer is no.
>> I do if I could get it, and