ALICIA: ANOTHER CARAVAN OF MY
FRANCE MAKING ITS WAY TOWARD OUR
SOUTHERN BORDER.
VIDEO FROM SOUTHERN MEXICO
SHOWING MORE THAN 2,000 PEOPLE
MOSTLY FROM CENTRAL AMERICA
STORMING THROUGH MEXICAN
SECURITY FORCES WHO SET UP A
BLOCKADE TO TRY TO STOP THE
CARAVAN.
THIS AS NEW BORDER PATROL
NUMBERS SHOW MORE THAN
1.7 MILLION MIGRANT ENCOUNTERS
IN FISCAL YEAR 2021, A RECORD
NUMBER.
JOINING US NOW, FORMER ACTING
I.C.E. DIRECTOR, TOM HOMAN.
HES ISHE IS ALSO A FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR.
TOM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
HERE.
I MENTIONED THAT NUMBER, YOU
TAKE ISSUE WITH THAT FIGURE,
REPORTED BY CBP, 1.7 MILLION
MIGRANT ENCOUNTERS.
WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IT’S HIGHER?
>> WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT CBP
WEBSITE THEY’VE GOT 1.9
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS.
THEY’RE NOT COUNTING THE ALIENS
THAT SHOW UP AT THE PORT OF
EVERYONE TRI.
THEY DON’T ALL -- PORT OF ENTRY.
THEY TURN THEMSELF OVER TO CBP
OFFICERS AND THEY’RE NOT
COUNTING THE NUMBER IN THE
FIGURES.
IF YOU GO BACK 15, 10 YEARS AGO,
THEY USED TO COUNT THE NUMBERS
AT ONCE.
THE 1.9, THEY DON’T WANT TO
COMPARE THAT TO HISTORICAL
FIGURES.
IT’S ALREADY THE WORST EVER
HISTORICALLY.
THE 1.9 WOULD BE A FAR WORSE
STORY.
EVEN 1.7 IS A HISTORIC FIGURE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DAY TAXER
IT’S REALLY 1.9.
ALICIA: AS WE SEE THE FEW
CARAVAN THAT IS MORE ORG’S
KNIFED,ORGANIZED,THEY CAN REGIST
WE’RE HEARING FROM THE GOVERNOR
FROM WEST VIRGINIA ON THE TIM
PACTS HE HAS SEEN.
-- THE IMPACTS HE HAS SEEN.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> IF WE HAVE SEEN AN IMMEDIATE
UPTICK FROM THE STANDPOINT OF
DEATHS COMING FROM DRUGS AND WE
HAVE -- IT IS A DIRECT
CORRELATION WITH WHAT IS
HAPPENING AT AT THE BORDER.
NOW, JUST IMAGINE HOW FAR WE ARE
FROM THE BORDER AND A LOT OF
PEOPLE WOULD THINK, WELL, WE’RE
PROTECTED AND EVERYTHING.
BUT WE HAVE SEEN AN IMMEDIATE,
AN IMMEDIATE UPTICK.
ALICIA: TOM, THIS IS VERY MUCH
NOT JUST A BORDER ISSUE.
>> NO, IT’S NOT.
I WAS IN ARIZONA YOU FEW A FEW M
AGO WITH SHERIFFS FROM
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
THEY’RE ALL FEELING THE EFFECTS
FROM THE BORDER.
FENTANYL ALONE, THERE’S BEEN
ENOUGH FENTANYL THAT CROSSED THE
BORDER ILLEGALLY THAT KILLED
90,000 YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE
COUNTRY.
95% OF THE FENCED NIL COMES TENT
THE SOUTHWEST BORDER.
BORDER PATROL HAS 40 TO 50% OF
THEIR MAN POWER HAS BEEN TAKEN
OFF THE LINE TO PROCESS LARGE
GROUPS.
LARGE PORTIONS OF THE BORDER ARE
UNGUARDED.
WHEN THEY HAD THE 15,000
HAITIANS UNDER THE BRIDGE, THEY
PULLED THE ASSETS OUT OF THE
DELLY YOWS SECTOR INTO --
DEL-RIO SECTOR INTO THAT AREA.
THAT THAT LEFT BORDER UNGUARDED.
THAT SURGE IS NOT AN
IMMIGRATION ISSUE, IT’S A
DRUG ISSUE, IT’S A CRIMINAL
ALIENS COMING ACROSS, POSSIBLE
TERRORISTS COULD BE COMING
ACROSS.
BORDER PATROL ARRESTED 14 PEOPLE
ON THE FBI’S SCREENING DATABASE.
THAT’S WHAT A THEY ARRESTED.
SO HOW MANY BAD PEOPLE CAME IN
THAT 400,000 THAT GOT AWAY?
ALICIA: AND THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION SAYS WHAT WE’RE
SEEING HERE IS A RESULT OF ROOT
CAUSES IN THESE HOME COUNTRIES
OF THESE MIGRANTS, POVERTY,
CORRUPTION AND VIOLENCE.
WE HAVE SEEN IN BILL MELUGIN’S
REPORTING THAT PEOPLE IN THE
CARAVAN ARE SAYING THEY’RE
COMING HERE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE
OF BIDEN.
IF THE PRESIDENT WENT TO THE
BORDER, CHANGED HIS MESSAGE A
LITTLE BIT, DO YOU THINK THAT
WOULD HAVE ANY IMPACT HERE?
>> FIRST OF ALL, THE ROOT
CAUSES, THAT’S A FALSE
NARRATIVE.
WE’RE WHERE THE ROOT CAUSES AND
FY ’20, FY ’19 WHEN PRESIDENT
TRUMP HAD THE ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION DOWN 82%.
WHERE WERE THE ROOT CAUSES THEN,
82% DECLINE IN ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION.
THE PROMISES HE MADE, THE
EXECUTIVE ORDERS HE SIGNED,
GETTING RID OF ALL THE PROGRAMS
THAT WORKED IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, THAT’S THE
CAUSE.
THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF DURING THE
CAMPAIGN SAID I’M GOING TO PUT A
MORATORIUM ON DEPORTATIONS, I’M
GOING TO AWARD AMNESTY AND DACA,
I’M GOING TO SHUT DOWN
IMMIGRATION HE DETENTION AND
GIVE FREE HEALTHCARE.
WHEN HE MADE THOSE PROMISES, THE
WHOLE WORLD LISTENED AND WHO
WOULDN’T WANT TO COME TO THE
GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD TO
RECEIVE THOSE BENEFITS.
THIS IS PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HIS
IMMIGRATION POLICIES THAT CAUSED
THE CRISIS.
THE PRESIDENT OF GUATEMALA SAID
IT, PRESIDENT OF HONDURAS HAS
SAID IT, THE PRESIDENT OF MEXICO
SAID THE BIDEN POLICIES ARE
CAUSING THE SURGE.
ALICIA: WE WILL CONTINUE TO