LOT MORE OF IT COMING IN THE
WEEKS AND MONTHS AHEAD.
ALL RIGHT, IT IS GREAT PLEASURE
TO BRING IN ONE OF THE LEADERS
WHO HELPED TO MOLD THIS NEW
AGENDA.
JOINING ME NOW OUR GOOD FRIEND
CONGRESSMAN JIM JORDAN FROM OHIO
WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND AUTHOR
OF, DO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD
DO, IN FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM IN
THE SWAMP.
MR. JORDAN, YOU HAVE DONE WHAT
YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO SO
THAT IS ONE GOOD PLACE TO START.
>> YEAH.
LARRY: BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW,
PROSPERITY, GROWTH, SOLVES A LOT
OF PROBLEMS AND I THINK THE
REFORMS THAT CONSERVATIVE
REFORMS, ALL THE REFORMS, GIVE
US A TREMENDOUS STEP IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION.
GO AHEAD, TALK TO US ABOUT THIS
STORY, PLEASE.
>> WELL, LARRY, FIRST OF ALL
YOUR MONOLOGUE IS RIGHT ON
TARGET, YOU CAN’T LEAD
MILITARILY, CAN’T LEAD
DIPLOMATICALLY IF YOU DON’T
FIRST LEAD ECONOMICALLY.
YOU CAN’T LEAD ECONOMICALLY IF
GO.
CONTINUES TO GROW AND HURTS THE
PRIVATE SECTOR WHAT WE’VE SEEN.
THIS RULES PACKAGE IS DESIGNED
TO DO ONE FUNDAMENTAL THING,
STOP BILLS LIKE THE 1.7 TRILLION
MONSTROSITY PASSED SIX DAYS AGO.
STOP THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPENING.
THERE HAS TO BE 72 HOURS TO SEE
IT.
WE THINK TRANSPARENCY LIMITS
SIZE OF GOVERNMENT, HELPS THINGS
THAT GROW THE ECONOMY.
72-HOUR, SINGLE SUBJECT,
GERMANENESS, AMENDMENT HAS TO BE
FOCUSED ON SINGLE PIECE OF
LEGISLATION, THAT IS ALL GOOD
STUFF SO WE DON’T HAVE
LEGISLATION LIKE THAT THAT I
THINK HURTS OUR ECONOMY IN THE
LONG RUN.
THE OTHER FINAL THING I SAY ON
THIS, WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO
KEEP GOVERNMENT SMALL?
WHEN GOVERNMENT IS SMALL LIBERTY
AND FREEDOM ARE GREATER.
WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT GROWING
LIKE CRAZY, GOING AFTER WE THE
PEOPLE WEAPONIZATION OF IT.
THAT IS WHAT THE 118th
CONGRESS IS A B.
STOPPING THAT, AND
UNCONTROLLABLE GOVERNMENT
SPENDING.
LARRY: JIM JORDAN, YOU WERE ON
THIS SHOW, I DON’T KNOW IF YOU
WERE ON LAST WEEK, BUT THE WEEK
BEFORE YOU AND I HAD A HONK
CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NEED FOR
REGULAR ORDER, NOT ONLY REGULAR
ORDER IN THE BUDGET WHICH IS, A
BUDGET RESOLUTION AND 12
APPROPRIATION BILLS, WHICH YOU
ALSO TALKED ABOUT ON THE FLOOR
OF THE HOUSE LAST WEEK WHEN YOU
NOMINATED McCARTHY.
>> YEAH.
LARRY: BUT ALL MATTERS, ALL
MATTERS THERE SHOULD BE REGULAR
ORDER.
THE COMMITTEE SYSTEM IS BEING
STRENGTHENED BY THESE
CONSERVATIVE REFORMS.
THAT’S THE WAY I READ IT AND
REGULAR ORDER, ACCOUNTABLE AND
TRANSPARENT, THAT IS A REALLY
GOOD THING WHICH THE DEMOCRATS
HAVE BLOCKED THESE MANY YEARS.
>> YES.
IT INVOLVES THE WHOLE COUNTRY
BECAUSE THEN EVERY SINGLE MEMBER
OF CONGRESS REPRESENTING 800,000
PEOPLE IN THEIR RESPECTIVE
DISTRICT GETS TO WEIGH IN, VIA
THE COMMITTEE, THEN ON THE HOUSE
FLOOR, TIME TO LOOK AT IT, TIME
TO PUT IT TOGETHER.
THAT IS WHAT SELF-GOVERNMENT AND
REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT IS ALL
ABOUT.
WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT UNDER
DEMOCRATS.
IT GETS DECIDED BY NANCY PELOSI,
CHUCK SCHUMER AROUND JOE BIDEN
THAT IS NOT HOW IT IS SUPPOSED
TO WORK.
AS I SAID ON THE HOUSE FLOOR
LAST WEEK, IN THE HISTORY OF OUR
GREAT COUNTRY, ONLY 12,000
PEOPLE HAD PRIVILEGE TO SERVE IN
THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS.
EACH ONE SHOULD WEIGH IN ON THE
DECISION
DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.
THAT IS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO
WORK.
THAT IS WHAT THE RULES PACKAGE
IS ALL ABOUT WE’LL PASS LATER
TONIGHT.
AS YOU SAID IN YOUR MONOLOGUE,
WE’LL GET ABOUT GETTING RID OF
87,000 IRS AGENTS FURTHER
INFRINGEMENT AND ATTACK ON
AMERICANS LIBERTIES.
THAT IS WHAT WE’RE DOING ON THE
FIRST DAY AFTER THE SPEAKER
ELECTION LAST WEEKEND.
LARRY: LET’S FOCUS ON THAT
LEGISLATION TO RESCIND THE
$80 BILLION FOR THE 170,000 IRS
AGENTS.
WILL THAT COME TONIGHT.
>> YEP.
THAT IS BEING DEBATED AND VOTED
ON THIS EVENING.
WE WILL PASS THAT, I ACTUALLY
HOPE A FEW DEMOCRATS JOIN US,
WE’LL WAIT AND SEE.
I KNOW EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN
WILL VOTE FOR THAT.
WE KNOW THIS IS A FURTHER
WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT.
THOSE AGENTS WE KNOW WHO THEY
ARE COMING AFTER, COMING AFTER
SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, COMING
AFTER CONSERVATIVES.
THAT IS WHY WE WANT THE
LEGISLATION PASSED ON THE VERY
FIRST DAY.
LARRY: TALK ABOUT THE
WEAPONIZATION LEGISLATION OR
WEAPONIZATION RULE.
YOU WILL CHAIR THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE.
MR. COMER WILL CHAIR THE
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON
THE FBI, ON THE INTELLIGENCE
AGENCIES, ON THE HUNTER BIDEN
LAPTOP.
WHO KNOWS WHAT YOU GOT WORK TO
DO.
CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE HINT
THERE, HOW YOU WILL START, WHEN
YOU WILL START, WHERE IS THIS
GOING TO GO?
>> WELL IN OUR COMMITTEE I THINK
WE’LL FOCUS ON TWO ISSUES.
I THINK FRONT AND CENTER OF THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, THE BORDER
NO LONGER A BORDER.
LARRY: OH.
>> THE POLITICAL NATURE OF THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
THERE WILL BE A SELECT SUB
COMMITTEE FOCUSING ON THAT.
FOUR WHISTLE-BLOWERS CAME TO US
TO TALK ABOUT HOW POLITICAL THE
PLACE HAS BECOME.
IT GOES FURTHER, COLLUSION
BETWEEN BIG GOVERNMENT, BIG
TECH, BIG MEDIA.
WE’VE SEEN THAT NOW WITH THE
TWITTER FILES AND WHAT THEY HAVE
EXPOSED.
WE’LL LOOK AT ALL OF THAT
BECAUSE THE FIRST STEP IN
STOPPING IT IS TO GET THE FACTS,
GET THE TRUTH TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE AND WE HAVE AN OVERSIGHT
OBLIGATION, WE HAVE A DUTY TO DO
THIS KIND OF INVESTIGATIVE WORK.
WE’LL DO IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
CONSTITUTION BUT WE’LL DO IT
AGGRESSIVELY.
LARRY: JIM JORDAN, FOR ONE
PAUSE, ONE LITTLE SIDEBAR, THE
BORDER THAT IS NO LONGER A
BORDER, PRESIDENT BIDEN IS DOWN
BY THE BORDER I GUESS HE IS
GETTING A LOOK AT FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN TWO YEARS, WHAT IS GOING
ON WITH THE BORDER THAT IS NO
LONGER A BORDER AND WHAT SHOULD
TO ON IN YOUR JUDGMENT ON THIS
IMMIGRATION FIASCO?
>> YOU GO BACK TO THE POLICIES
THAT WORKED.
GO BACK TO THE WALL, REMAIN IN
MEXICO POLICY.
RIGHT NOW JOE BIDEN HAS TOLD THE
ENTIRE WORLD IF YOU COME TO OUR
BORDER THERE WON’T BE A WALL TO
GO OVER, YOU WON’T HAVE TO WAIT
IN MEXICO WHILE WE EVALUATE YOUR
CLAIM.
YOU COME IN, GO WHEREVER YOU
WANT TO GO.
THAT IS THE MESSAGE.
NO WONDER FIVE MILLION
INDIVIDUALS HAVE COME INTO OUR
COUNTRY AS ILLEGAL MIGRANTS AND
NOW INSIDE OF OUR BORDER THAT IS
THE PROBLEM.
THE THING THAT EARTH BOOED ME
JOE BIDEN SAID THE PAST WEEKEND,
HE SAID I WISH REPUBLICAN WAS
HELP US TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
YOU CONTROLLED ALL OF GOVERNMENT
FOR TWO YEARS.
YOU HAD THE WHITE HOUSE, YOU HAD
THE SENATE, YOU HAD THE HOUSE.
IF THERE WAS SOME SOLUTION.
HE WANTS TO SAY WE’RE WILLING TO
WORK.
YOU GUYS CREATED THE PROBLEM
WHEN YOU COULD HAVE DONE
SOMETHING TO ADDRESS IT, YOU
DIDN’T.
YOU’RE TRYING TO BLAME
REPUBLICANS.
GIVE ME A BREAK.
LARRY: YOU DON’T EXPECT COMING
OUT OF THIS MEETING I GATHER.
SOUNDS LIKE TO SOME EXTENT I
DON’T WANT TO OBSESS BIT, LATEST
THINGS PEOPLE COMING IN FROM
CERTAIN COUNTRIES FOR ASYLUM,
WILL HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMING IN
MORE ILLEGALLY INSTEAD OF CATCH
AND DEPORT, IT WILL BE
CATCH-AND-RELEASE.
TELL ME IF I’M WRONG THE WAY I’M
READING ISN’T.
>> I THOUGHT HE WOULD TALK ABOUT
THE REMAIN IN MEXICO POLICY THAT
WORKED SO WELL UNDER PRESIDENT
TRUMP’S LEADERSHIP.
WE’LL WAIT AND SEE.
I HOPE THEY DO THAT.
I HAVE MY DOUBTS TO BE HONEST.
LARRY: TELL YOU COWELL THINGS I
LOVE, LET YOU WEIGH IN ON THEM.
I LIKE YOU LOOK AT BALANCED
BUDGET OVER 10 YEARS.
I DON’T KNOW IF YOU GET THERE OR
NOT.
THERE IS A LOT OF ECONOMICS TO
IT.
AS A ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE IT’S A
GOOD IDEA.
HERE IS ANOTHER ONE I LOVE, JIM
JORDAN, NO TAX RATE HIKES UNLESS
YOU HAVE A 3/5 MAJORITY.
>> OF COURSE.
LARRY: LET ME GET THIS RIGHT,
WE’LL HAVE LOWER SPENDING AND
LOWER TAXES AT THE SAME TIME
WHICH PROBABLY EQUALS LOWER
INFLATION AND MORE GROWTH.
NOW I’M BEING VERY SIMPLISTIC
HERE BUT YOU’RE THE LEADER.
TELL ME, AM I BEING TOO
OPTIMISTIC?
IS THAT WHERE THIS STORY IS
GOING?
>> THAT’S WHAT WE WANT.
THAT’S WHAT WE’RE FOR.
GETTING IT THROUGH CHUCK SCHUMER
AND THE SENATE AND GETTING
JOE BIDEN TO SIGN IT IS A
DIFFERENT STORY.
YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW THIS,
LARRY, YOU LIVED THIS, THE
APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS AT SOME
POINT WE’LL HAVE A NATIONAL
DEBATE WHEN WE GET TO THE FINAL
APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS WE GET
THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR IN
SEPTEMBER 30th.
WE’RE POINTING TO A BETTER
STRATEGY FOR LAYING THE
GROUNDWORK, GET THOSE KIND OF
THINGS DONE WHICH PROMOTE THE
ECONOMIC GROWTH WHICH ALLOWS US
TO LEAD DIPLOMATICALLY AND
MILITARILY.
I ALWAYS SAY WHEN AMERICA LEADS
THE WORLD IS A SAFER AND BETTER
PLACE.
LARRY: I DON’T MIND BY THE WAY,
THERE IS ALL THE TALK ABOUT
LIBERAL MAINSTREAM MEDIAS, IF
THE DEBT CEILING IS POSTPONED I
DON’T CARE, OR PUT IT ANOTHER
WAY, IF PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT
PAYING THE INTEREST ON THE
10-YEAR TREASURY YOU WILL HAVE
REVENUES COMING INTO THE
GOVERNMENT.
SO GO AHEAD PAY THAT.
BUT MEANWHILE YOU WILL BE ABLE
TO DRAIN SPENDING FROM OTHER
THINGS.
I MEAN I THINK, MAKE A STAND ON
THAT.
I’M AN OLD WALL STREET GUY.
I SHOULD BE PANICKED ABOUT IT
BUT I’M NOT.
IT IS A TRADE-OFF, RIGHT?
A LITTLE LATER DEBT CEILING IF
YOU GET LOWER SPENDING FROM THAT
I THINK THAT’S A GOOD THING.
>> ALSO LONG TERM WE SHOULD BE
CONCERNED ABOUT, SHORT TERM
FRANKLY, 30 SOME TRILLION DOLLAR
DEBT, THE FACT THIS YEAR IT WILL
BE SOMEWHERE IN FIVE TO
600 BILLION-DOLLAR RANGE IN JUST
DEBT SERVICE, IN INTEREST
PAYMENTS.
LARRY WE SPEND 800 SOME BILLION
ON DEFENSE.
WE’LL SPEND ALMOST AS MUCH IN
SERVICING DEBT?
THAT TO ME IS A REAL CONCERN.
ALL THE MORE REASON WE NEED TO
PUT IN PLACE SPENDING POLICY,
TAXING POLICY, THAT WILL HELP US
BEGIN TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE
LONG TERM.
LARRY: FINAL POINT, I’M GOING
BACK TO NEWT GINGRICH.
YOU KNOW WHEN NEWT, NEWT WAS
PUSHING FOR THE BALANCED BUDGET,
NEWT GOT, I THINK HE HAD THREE
OR FOUR BALANCED BUDGETS BACK IN
THE ’90s.
SOME PEOPLE ARE CRITICIZING YOU
AND OTHERS ALREADY.
YOU WILL CUT MILITARY SPENDING
BUT MILITARY SPENDING IS NOT ALL
MILITARY SPENDING AND I THINK
YOU MADE THE POINT ON ONE OF THE
SUNDAY SHOWS, I MIGHT ADD, NOT
TO DEMEAN, GOD FORBID, I’M NOT
DEMEANING A SINGLE OFFICER IN
THE AMERICAN ARMY BUT RATIO OF
GENERALS TO ENLISTED MEN AND
WOMEN HAVE NEVER BEEN HIGHER.
THERE IS LOT OF WOKE IN THAT
BUDGET.
>> EXACTLY.
LARRY: A LOT OF WASTE, FRAUD AND
ABUSE.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, REGULAR
ORDER YOU WILL DECIDE, YOU, THE
PROCESS WILL DECIDE BUT MILITARY
SPENDING COULD COME UNDER THE
MICROSCOPE TOO.
THAT’S THE POINT.
>> EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ON THE
TABLE WHEN YOU GOT A 30 SOME
TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT, THE
INTEREST PAYMENTS ARE WHAT THEY
WILL BE THIS FISCAL YEAR YOU
HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
YOU DO IT IN A WAY THAT DOESN’T
HURT OUR TROOPS.
MAKE SURE THE MEN AND UNIFORM
GET THE PAY RAISE THEY DO.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT GENERAL
OFFICER RATIO TOO, ENLISTED
INDIVIDUALS.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE WOKE
NONSENSE WE SEE IN THE MILITARY,
MONEY GOES FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.
THOSE HAVE TO BE ON THE TABLE.
THAT IS GOOD COMMON SENSE.
FRANKLY I THINK THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
>> JIM JORDAN, I THINK A LOT OF
FOLKS ARE BEHIND YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON