>> WE SAW THAT SAME KIND OF SUPPORT FROM SHANANN WATTS ON
TWITTER FROM EVERY MOM COUNTS.
THANK YOU BOTH
I WANT TO BRING IN TIM MILLER,
JEB BUSH’S COMMUNICATIONS
DIRECTOR BACK IN 2016.
ALSO A FORMER RNC DEPUTY
COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR.
COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR. AND DESPITE BEING A LIFELONG
REPUBLICAN, THIS TIME AROUND,
ONE DEMOCRATIC CONTENDER IS
CATCHING HIS EYE
TIM JOINS ME NOW
WE ARE STARTING TO SEE THESE
CANDIDATES TAKE DIFFERENT LANES.
ELIZABETH WARREN ROLLING OUT
PROPOSAL AFTER PROPOSAL, AMY
KLOBUCHAR, REALLY TAKING A MORE
MODERATE STANCE.
MODERATE STANCE. AND OTHERS ARE SAYING, I JUST
WANT TO GAIN MOMENTUM WITH MY
SPIRIT, MY PRESENCE.
WHO STANDS OUT TO YOU?
>> LOOK, I THINK WE’RE SUPER
EARLY IN THE PROCESS
WHAT CONCERNED ME LOOKING LAST
NIGHT, AND I THINK THAT
PARTICULARLY VIEWERS OF THIS
NETWORK AND DEMOCRATS SOMETIMES
PAN THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULD CARE
ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE ME, MODERATE
REPUBLICANS WHO DON’T LIKE
TRUMP.
TRUMP. >> I CARE ABOUT YOU.
>> BUT THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT
ELECTORATE IN THE MIDTERMS
A BIG REASON WHY NANCY PELOSI IS
SPEAKER IS VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR
MITT ROMNEY AND HILLARY CLINTON
WENT DEMOCRAT.
WENT DEMOCRAT. SO YOU CANNOT FORGET ABOUT THIS
ELECTORATE
ELECTORATE AND WHEN I WATCHED THOSE TOWN
HALLS LAST NIGHT, AND I HEAR
BERNIE SAYING THAT WE SHOULD
ELECTLE
ELECTLE THE MARATHON BOMBER VOTE AND I
HEAR SOME OF THE OTHER
CANDIDATES SAY THAT MAYBE WE
SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT, AND
MAYOR PETE WAS THE ONLY ONE TO
ACTUALLY SAY, THIS IS KIND OF
SILLY.
SILLY. I MEAN, THE FACT THAT THAT IS A
DIFFERENTIATOR, SUCH AN EXTREME
POSITION LIKE THAT, IS
CONCERNING TO ANTI-TRUMP
REPUBLICANS LOOKING AT THIS
FIELD.
FIELD. >> WHY DO YOU THINK WE’RE SEEING
DEMOCRATS PUSH SO FAR TO THE
LEFT
LEFT IT WAS NANCY PELOSI LAST WEEK
WHO REMINDED US THAT IT WAS
MODERATE DEMOCRATS THAT FLIPPED
SEATS IN THE MIDTERMS.
ARIZONA, NEVADA, FLORIDA,
KANSAS, SHE SAID --
>> ORANGE COUNTY
>> SHE SAID, KROZALEXANDRIA
OCASIO-CORTEZ IS FANTASTIC, BUT
THE DISTRICT SHE’S FROM IN
CALIFORNIA AND WHERE I’M FROM
NEW YORK, YOU COULD PUT A GLASS
OF WATER WITH A "D" NEXT TO IT
AND IT WOULD WIN
SO WHEN YOU WATCH LAST NIGHT’S
TOWN HALL AND YOU SEE MAYOR PETE
BE THE ONLY ONE TO BE CLEAR AND
SAY, NO, BOSTON BOMBER SHOULD
NOT HAVE THE RIGHT STREET, WHAT
DOES THAT TELL YOU
>> THERE’S A LOT OF PRESSURE TO
APPEAL TO THE LOUDEST VOTERS ON
SOCIAL MEDIA, TO THE BASE PART
OF THE PARTY
WE SAW THIS ON THE RIGHT
THIS WAS THE THEORY OF TED
CRUZ’S CANDIDACY IN 2016, WAS
THAT VOTERS WANTED TRUE
CONSERVATISM, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE
LINE, THE MOST FAR-RIGHT
CONSERVATISM ON THE ISSUES
AND TRUMP, WHO I LOATHE, AND I’M
LOATHE TO GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR
ANYTHING, ACTUALLY SAID, YOU
KNOW WHAT, I DON’T THINK SO.
AND HE TOOK SOME HETERODOX
POSITIONS ON ISSUES.
HE ACTUALLY SAID, I DON’T THINK
WE SHOULD CUT MEDICARE AND
SOCIAL SECURITY, BECAUSE HE KNEW
THERE WERE VOTERS THAT CARED
ABOUT THAT
ABOUT THAT AND THAT WORKED.
SO IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT
NOW, YOU’RE SEEING THIS HERD
MENTALITY TO THE -- YOU KNOW,
EXTREME PROGRESSIVE POSITION ON
A LOT OF ISSUES.
AND I DEFINITELY THINK THERE’S A
LANE THAT’S UNDERAPPRECIATED TO
TAKE SOME HETERODOX VIEWS ON
SOME OF THESE ISSUES
IT MIGHT GIVE YOU HORATIOED ON
TWITTER.
TWITTER. >> THEN SO BE IT
LAST I CHECKED, TRUE
CONSERVATIVES DID CARE ABOUT THE
DEFT AND I’M PRETTY SURE THE
DEFICIT WAS GOING TO WIPE THAT
OUT SKBEFAND WE HAVE A BIG WHOPP
ONE RIGHT NOW.
I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT PETE
BUTTIGIEG, BECAUSE RUN OF THE
REASONS I INVITED YOU HERE WAS
BECAUSE OF THIS PIECE YOU WROTE.
YOU SAID, POLICY MATTERS
BUT IDENTITY MATTERS, TOO.
AND IF NEXT SUMMER IN FRONT OF A
WORLDWIDE AUDIENCE ON A STAGE IN
MILWAUKEE A MAN ACCEPTS THE
DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION AND TURNS
TO GIVE HIS HUSBAND A KISS, IT
WILL SEND A RIPPLE THAT WILL
REACH THOSE FIGHTING THEIR
INTERNAL WARS EVERYWHERE
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR INITIAL
REACTION TO PETE IN THIS RACE,
BECAUSE TO ME, WE MIGHT SEE
SOMEONE REDEFINE WHAT WE CALL
FAMILY VALUES IN 2019.
>> YEAH, HE’S A CHRISTIAN, A
VETERAN, HE’S FROM THE MIDWEST,
AND HE’S OPENLY GAY AND
EXTREMELY COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT
AND I THINK THAT A LOT -- IN THE
POCKETS OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS
HAS BECOME THE NORM, YOU KNOW,
I’VE SEEN SOME ARTICLES THAT,
OH, HE’S JUST ANOTHER WHITE GUY,
OR, YOU KNOW, HERE IN CHELSEA OR
WEST HOLLYWOOD OR D.C. OR THE
BARRIER, YOU KNOW, HE DOESN’T
ACTUALLY SEEM THAT GAY
AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER
MARGINALIZED LBGTQ GROUPS.
YOU SEE THIS OUT THERE AND I
JUST WANTED TO HAVE EVERYBODY
STEP BACK.
STEP BACK. AND ON THE RIGHT, BY THE WAY,
THEY SAY, THIS IS IDENTITY
POLITICS
POLITICS IDENTITY POLITICS IS IT SHALL.
JUST, WHO CARES IF HE’S GAY?
AND I WANTED TO TAKE THIS
ARTICLE AND TAKE A STEP BACK AND
SAY, ACTUALLY, THIS REALLY DOES
MATTER
MATTER AND WITH THIS PRESIDENT, WE’VE
FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT, THAT THE
PRESIDENT HAS A BULLY PULPIT,
WHERE THEY CAN BE A LEADER ON
VALUES AND THEY CAN SHINE A
LIGHT NOT TO JUST PEOPLE IN THIS
COUNTRY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE
WORLD.
WORLD. THAT’S SOMETHING WE USED TO
BELIEVE ABOUT THE AMERICAN
PRESIDENCY
PRESIDENCY AND PETE HAS THIS OPPORTUNITY,
IN KIND OF AN UNASSUMING WAY TO
SAY TO THE, YOU KNOW, CLOSETED
GAY PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WHO ARE
STRUGGLING WITH THEIR SEXUALITY,
YOU KNOW, GAYS LIVE IN WEST
VIRGINIA, OR JUST UPSTATE FROM
HERE IN NEW YORK, NOT TOO FAR,
GAYS ARE IN HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL
TEAMS, AND SAY TO THEM, THIS IS
OKAY
OKAY THIS IS A MODEL FOR A FAMILY
LIFE THAT YOU CAN LOOK TO, AND
FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT
AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW AS SOMEBODY
THAT CAME OUT AND STRUGGLED WITH
THAT AND THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU
KNOW, FOUGHT MY INTERNAL WARS AS
PETE SAID IN HIS INTERVIEW WITH
RACHEL MADDOW, THAT WOULD HAVE
MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE TO ME, AND
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
EVERYONE SHOULD REALLY
APPRECIATE HOW MO MENTIS THAT
IS
IS >> HOW MUCH OF A FOIL COULD PETE
BUTTIGIEG TO THAT FOX NEWS
AUDIENCE
AUDIENCE EVERY TIME YOU TUNE IN, THEY’RE
TELLING YOU, THERE IS A WAR ON
WHITE MEN IN THIS COUNTRY.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ARE SO FAR
TO THE LEFT, THEY’RE MOVING
STRAIGHT TO SOCIALISM.
THAT’S THE OPPOSITE OF’ PETE,
FLYOVER STATE GUY, MAYOR OF
SOUTH BEND, HARVARD EDUCATED,
VETERAN, HE KIND OF ROCKS ALL OF
THAEZ
THAEZ THOSE ARGUMENTS THEY’RE MAKING
>> AND HE’S A BIG CONTRAST TO
THIS PRESIDENT ON ALL OF THOSE
POINTS
POINTS IF YOU’RE A FAMILY VALUES VOTER
AND YOU HAVE THIS PRESIDENT
WHO’S CHEATING ON HIS WIFE WITH
A STRIPPER WHILE THE BABY IS
STILL IN THE HOSPITAL,
BASICALLY --
BASICALLY -- >> BUT THAT VOTER DOESN’T CARE
LOOK AT THE JUDGES THEY’RE
GETTING.
GETTING. >> OF COURSE, BUT YOU STEREOTYPE
THOSE VOTERS, RIGHT?
THERE WERE A LOT OF VOTERS IN
THE MIDWEST THAT VOTED FOR OBAMA
AND THEN WENT TO TRUMP BECAUSE
THEY WANTED CHANGE
THERE ARE A LOT OF, I THINK,
YOUNGER EVANGELICALS WHO ARE
LOOKING FOR KIND OF A NEW PATH
AND, YOU KNOW, A NEW TYPE OF
SOCIAL CONSERVATISM.
SOCIAL CONSERVATISM. SO I THINK PETE, YOU KNOW, BEING
A RHODES SCHOLAR AND A VET AND A
CHRISTIAN AND, YOU KNOW, A
DEDICATED HUSBAND, THAT’S A
PRETTY DECENT CONTRAST WITH THIS
PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW, ON THE
SURFACE.
SURFACE. I THINK, OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE
OTHER CANDIDATES -- IT’S EASY TO
CONTRAST THIS PRESIDENT.
SO THERE’LL BE OTHER CANDIDATES
THAT CAN DO IT, TOO.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT WOULD
HAVE -- HE WOULD HAVE A VERY
UNIQUE WAY OF REACHING SOME OF
THE PARTS OF THE ELECTORATE THAT
THE DEMOCRATS HAVE STRUGGLED
WITH, FOR SURE
>> WELL, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU