>> Melissa: THE LEADER OF THE
HOUSE UNTIL INQUIRY IT SAYS
THERE IS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE
THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP COMMITTED
WRONGDOING.
BUT HE WASN'T SO DIRECT WHEN
ASKED IF HE WILL VOTE TO IMPEACH
THE PRESIDENT.
>> I WANT TO DISCUSS THIS WITH
MY CONSTITUENTS AND MY
COLLEAGUES BEFORE I MAKE A FINAL
JUDGMENT ON IT BUT A COUPLE OF
REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS WE NEED
TO THINK ABOUT.
THE CASE IN TERMS OF THE
UKRAINIAN MISCONDUCT IS
IRONCLAD.
BUT, SO IS THE CASE OF THE
PRESIDENT'S OBSTRUCTION OF THE
CONGRESS.
>> Harris: THIS AS AN OP-ED
WRITER SAYS DEMOCRATS HAVE
UNINTENTIONALLY UNITED PRESENT
COMIC REPUBLICANS AROUND
PRESIDENT TRUMP IT, ALLOWING HIM
TO RUN AGAIN AS AN OUTSIDER,
DESPITE THREE YEARS IN THE
WHITE HOUSE.
AND CALLING THE "IMPEACHMENT
FIASCO" A GIFT FROM DEMOCRATS TO
THE PRESIDENT.
KENNEDY, LOTS OF GOOD POINTS IN
THAT ARTICLE.
THEY SAY THAT, ONE, DEMOCRATS
HAVE BEEN MISLED BY THE MEDIA,
CHEERING ADAM SCHIFF'S COMING
EVERY DAY WHILE THE REST OF
AMERICA IF YOU LOOK AT
INDEPENDENCE IN OPPOSITION TO
IMPEACHING PRESIDENT TRUMP, THAT
NUMBER LEAPT FROM 37-47 OVER THE
FIRST WEEK OF HEARINGS.
SO INDEPENDENTS ARE SAYING, NO.
>> Kennedy: AND THOSE ARE
PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO BE
MINDFUL OF BECAUSE ELECTION WILL
REST ON THEM.
I DON'T THINK THEY ARE DOING AS
MUCH DAMAGE TO THE PRESIDENT AS
THEY THINK THEY ARE AND AGAIN,
THERE IS THIS COALESCING FACTOR
AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT HERE A
BUNCH OF TIMES.
AND THE RISK IS IF YOU BRING
EVERYONE TOGETHER AND YOU ARE
ONLY TRYING TO POLITICALLY
WOUNDED AT THE PRESIDENT, YET
NOT KILL HIS POLITICAL LIFE, AND
I KNOW I SAID IN AN EARLIER
BLOCK, YOU COULD SEE A PRESIDENT
WHO IS IMPEACHED AND REELECTED.
PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE HE'S
GOING TO MAKE THE CASE.
I'VE HAD TWO ARMS AND A LEG TIED
BEHIND MY BACK, VERY, BUT STILL
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DELIVER
ECONOMICALLY AND SPITE OF THIS
NONSTOP ONSLAUGHT.
>> Melissa: SO WHAT IS THIS
THING THAT I'VE HEARD AT LEAST
20 TIMES FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T
NECESSARILY LIKE THE PRESIDENT?
HE'S GETTING UP EACH SO CAN'T BE
REELECTED.
THEY CAN'T POSSIBLY BE RUNNING
ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE AND THEY
ARE DISENGAGING BECAUSE THEY
THINK IS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
>> I WOULD PUT IT ABOVE 50% ODDS
THAT HE GETS REELECTED, AND I
LIVE AND BREATHE THIS STUFF.
IT'S HARD TO UNSEAT A SEATED
PRESIDENT GOING FOR A SECOND
TERM ESPECIALLY IF THE ECONOMIC
INDICATORS ARE GOOD.
WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, AND
I'M IN FAVOR OF IMPEACHING THE
PRESIDENT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE
THE CASE IS IRONCLAD, THIS IS
EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE WERE ASKING
NANCY PELOSI ABOUT.
IT IS THIS GOING TO BE A
POLITICAL MESS FOR DEMOCRATS IN
THE END.
SHE ENDED UP SAYING WE NEED TO
MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE SERVE
THE CONSTITUTION ABOVE ALL AT
ELSE AND IT'S WORTH LOSING THE
HOUSE.
THERE ARE TONS OF DEMOCRATS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO ARE IN
THOSE DISTRICTS THAT COULD
ACTUALLY LOSE WHO ARE MAY BE
SAYING RIGHT NOW, LOOK AT THIS.
THE WISCONSIN NUMBERS FROM
MARQUETTE WERE TERRIBLE ON
IMPEACHMENT FOR INDEPENDENCE.
THE MARGIN WENT FROM 22%
SUPPORTING INDEPENDENTS ON 211.
AND THAT'S JUST IN A WEEK.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT
THIS, WE NEED ONE BELIEVER OF
POWER GOING INTO 2,020.
>> IS IT A MESS?
>> WE WOULD SAY WE ARE IN A
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS BUT WE SAY
WE ARE IN THE CONSTITUTION.
THIS IS, AS LITTLE MR. MADISON
TOLD US, AMBITION MUST BE MADE
TO COUNTERACT AMBITION SO IT'S
ALL GOOD.
I WONDER WITH SCHIFF, I FIND
INTERESTING, HIS CENSURE ON THE
TABLE.
IS HE THE DASH BECAUSE THE REAL
POLITICAL COUP FOR NANCY PELOSI
COULD BE IF SHE COULD GET HER
CONFERENCE TO SWALLOW THE IDEA
OF DROPPING IMPEACHMENT AND
BRINGING FORWARD A VOTE TO
CENSURE THE PRESIDENT, THAT
WOULD BE A POLITICAL GOLD MINE.
THEY KILL WITH THAT.
AND LET HER PEOPLE OUT.
>> IS SHE?
WHAT DO VOTERS TAKE AWAY FROM
THAT?
AND THE MOST SIMPLE TERMS.
>> Chris: THE SAME THING THEY
DID WITH BILL CLINTON WHICH IS
THE PRESIDENT DID SOMETHING
WRONG.
>> Melissa: IMPEACHMENT MEAN
SOMETHING TO EVERYBODY.
>> THAT'S A POINT THAT I WAS
MAKING OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
WHEN YOU PULL IMPEACHMENT ALONG
WITH REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, THAT'S
WHEN YOU SEE ALMOST THE COMPLETE
SPLIT IN THE NATION RIGHT NOW
DOWN PARTY LINES.
PEOPLE THINK, IMPEACHED.
DOESN'T THAT MEAN REMOVAL?
OH WAIT, THERE'S A SPLIT HAIR?
WELL WE STARTED TO SEE A
CONVERGENT
CONVERGENCE.
>> I GUARANTEE YOU IF YOU WERE
TO POLL, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT
CENSORING THE PRESIDENT?
>> THAT DOES PUT REPUBLICANS
LIKE WILL HURD, AND THAT GIVES
SOMETHING TO NANCY PELOSI, TOO.
SHE COULD SAY WE CHOSE TO DO IT
THIS WAY BECAUSE REPUBLICANS IN
THE SENATE, SO WE STOPPED RIGHT
HERE.