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>>> IN JUST A MOMENT, JUSTICE
GORSUCH WILL BE SWORN IN BY
JUSTICE KENNEDY, A GREAT MAN OF
OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENT.
OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENT. THROUGHOUT HIS NEARLY 30 YEARS
ON THE SUPREME COURT, JUSTICE
KENNEDY HAS BEEN PRAISED BY ALL
FOR HIS DEDICATED AND DIGNIFIED
SERVICE.
SERVICE. WE OWE HIM AN ENORMOUS DEBT OF
GRATITUDE, AND I AM HONORED THAT
HE IS WITH US TODAY.
>> IT WAS JUST A BLIP ON THE
SEEMINGLY ODD BUT SECRETLY
DELIBERATE THINGS PRESIDENT
TRUMP SAYS AT PUBLIC EVENTS.
THE PRESIDENT GOING OUT OF HIS
WAY TO PRAISE THE COURT’S SWIPGN
VOTE WHO MANY DEE SPIES BECAUSE
OF HIS RULINGS ON THE ABORTION
RIGHTS AND DEATH PENALTY.
THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PART OF A
LARGER PLAN.
LARGER PLAN. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTING,
QUOTE, IN SUBTLE AND NOT SO
SUBTLE WAYS, THE WHITE HOUSE
WAGED A QUIET CAMPAIGN TO ENSURE
THAT MR. TRUMP HAD A SECOND
OPPORTUNITY TO FULFILL ONE OF
HIS MOST IMPORTANT CAMPAIGN
PROMISES TO HIS CONSERVATIVE
FOLLOWERS -- THAT HE WOULD
CHANGE THE COMPLEXION AND
DIRECTION OF THE SUPREME COURT.
FRANK AND THE PANEL ARE STILL
HERE.
HERE. >>> PRETTY MONIACLE AND SUGGEST
THAT ONE OFFICE IN THE WEST WING
IS IF YOU CAN
IS FUNCTIONING.
IS FUNCTIONING. >> THE PRESIDENT IS A CON MAN
AND THE JUSTICE WAS CONNED BY
HIM.
HIM. THAT TRUMP HAS ANY DESIRE TO
APPOINT A JUSTICE WHO HAS AN
OPEN MIND LIKE ANTHONY KENNEDY
DOES IS ABSURD.
AND THE FACT THAT KENNEDY
BELIEVED IT IS THAT CREDULOUS.
>> LET ME READ FROM VANITY FAIR.
TRUMP HAD TO SHOW HE WAS -- OVER
THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS,
TRUMP SYSTEMATICALLY NOMINATED
THREE OF KENNEDY’S FORMER CLERKS
FORZ PLUM JUDICIAL POST WHILE HE
CRITICIZED OTHER CONSERVATIVE
MEMBERS OF THE COURT, DESPITE
THE FACT THE JUSTICE HAS BEEN
PILLORIED FOR HIS VOTE ON SOCIAL
ISSUES.
ISSUES. JUSTIN WHO WORKS CLOSELY WITH
THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION, HIS ROLE
AT DEUTSCHE BANK OF REAL ESTATE
CAPITAL MARKETS.
CAPITAL MARKETS. YOU COULDN’T MAKEUP THE
INTERSECTIONS AND PRESIDENT
TRUMP’S PICKS OF ALL PLACES, THE
SUPREME COURT.
SUPREME COURT. >> NO, YOU COULDN’T.
DURING THE CAMPAIGN TRUMP
LEARNED HE HAD A VERY POWERFUL
BARGAINING CHIP AND HE WOULD PUT
AN ORIGINALIST ON THE COURT.
IF HE WERE ONLY ELECTED.
MANY REPUBLICANS AT THAT TIME
WEREN’T CRAZY ABOUT TRUMP, BUT
THEY KNEW IF THEY WOULD ONLY
ELECT HIM, THEY COULD GET
SOMEONE TO CONTINUE THE SCALIA
ERA BALANCE OF THE COURT.
THIS WILL BE MORE POWERFUL, BY
THE WAY, BECAUSE THIS ISN’T
CONTINUING THE SOUTH KOREA A ERA
BALANCE OF THE COURT.
THIS IS CHANGING THE BALANCE OF
THE COURT.
THE COURT. AND IT’S AT A TIME WHEN THE
PRESIDENT INCREASINGLY NEEDS THE
SENATE AND INCREASINGLY NEEDS
THE COURT, AND HE’S GOING TO BE
ABLE TO MAKE AN EVEN MORE
COMPELLING CASE TO HIS BASE,
WHICH IS ALREADY MORE ALIGNED
WITH HIM THAN HE WAS ABLE TO DO
WITH GORSUCH.
WITH GORSUCH. >> IT MAY BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT
TO SAY HE NEEDS THE COURT.
I’VE BEEN TOLD THAT IF BOB
MUELLER MADE A DECISION AS TO
WHETHER OR NOT HE CAN OR WILL
INDICT THE PRESIDENT, HE
WOULDN’T HAVE TOLD ANYONE.
SO WE DON’T KNOW THAT HE’S MADE
THAT DETERMINATION.
THAT DETERMINATION. THAT’S THE KIND OF DECISION IN
THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION THAT
COULD POTENTIALLY END UP IN
FRONT OF THE SUPREME COURT.
>> LET’S PLAY THIS OUT.
SO, THE PRESIDENT IS UNDER
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. THE INVESTIGATION MAY WELL LEAD
TO A GRAND JURY SUBPOENA OF THE
PRESIDENT OR AN INDICTMENT OF
THE PRESIDENT.
THE PRESIDENT. BOTH OF THOSE SCENARIOS WOULD
LEAD QUICKLY TO THE SUPREME
COURT AND BE CHALLENGED BY THE
PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT IS
ABOUT TO PICK ONE OF THE PEOPLE
WHO LWILL HELP DECIDE THAT
MATTER.
MATTER. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT
NOW.
NOW. TRYING TO VIEW THIS THROUGH THE
EYES OF MUELLER, WE HAVE TWO
TIME FACTORS THAT MUST BE
PRESENT IN HIS MIND.
FIRST WAS ALWAYS THE MIDTERM
ELECTIONS, WHEN DO I COME OUT
WITH MY FINDINGS, DO I BIFURCATE
THIS, DO OBSTRUCTION FIRST
BEFORE THE ELECTIONS, DO RUSSIAN
COLLUSION AFTER.
COLLUSION AFTER. NOW HERE’S A SECOND TIME FACTOR
WHICH IS A NEW SUPREME COURT
JUSTICE COULD ACTUALLY PLAY INTO
THE SUCCESS OF MUELLER’S
INVESTIGATION AND THAT’S GOT TO
BE FOREMOST IN HIS MIND RIGHT
NOW.
NOW. >> LET ME COME BACK TO THE
CAMPAIGN TO INFLUENCE KENNEDY’S
DECISION MAKING AND ASK YOU
ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE REPORTED IN
"THE NEW YORK TIMES".
THE YOUNGER SON SPENT MORE THAN
A DECADE AT DEUTSCHE BANK RISING
TO BECOME THE HEAD OF REAL
ESTATE CAPITAL MARKETS.
HE WORKED CLOSELY WITH MR. TRUMP
WHEN HE WAS A REAL ESTATE
DEVELOPER ACCORDING TO TWO
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. DURING HIS TEEN YOU’RE, HE
BECAME MR. TRUMP’S MOST
IMPORTANT LENDER DISTRIBUTING
MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLAR OF
LOANS FOR A SKY SCRAPER IN
CHICAGO AT A TIME OTHER BANKS
WERE WARY OF DOING BUSINESS WITH
HIM.
HIM. TRUMP TALKING TO JUSTICE KENNEDY
ABOUT HIS SON.
YOU COULDN’T MAKE THIS UP.
>> COMING FROM YOU, SAY HELLO TO
YOUR BRIDE.
YOUR BRIDE. SPECIAL BRIDE.
SPECIAL BRIDE. WE LOVE HIM.
>> SPECIAL GUY WHO LOANED ME A
BILLION BUCKS.
BILLION BUCKS. >> WHEN I WAS READING THE TIMES
STORY EARLY THIS MORNING, WHEN
YOU TAKE THE CONNECTION OF THE
SON, HE DID THE NEW YORK CON ON
JUSTICE KENNEDY.
JUSTICE KENNEDY. THERE’S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK THE TIMING, A LOT OF
PEOPLE SAID, WELL, HE WANTED TO
DO IT SO HE COULD APPOINT
SOMEONE BEFORE THE MIDTERM
ELECTIONS.
ELECTIONS. NO, IT’S ABOUT THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION BECAUSE IT GOES TO
THE SUPREME COURT AT WHATEVER
STAGE.
STAGE. SO YOU’VE GOT A GUY NOW THAT HAS
HIS GUYS IN THE SENATE SAYING,
GIVE US THE EVIDENCE OR STOP
THIS, AND YOU’RE GOING TO STACK
THE JUDGES NOW THAT’S GOING TO
DECIDE.
DECIDE. I MEAN, HE COULDN’T HAVE DREAMED
THIS UP WITH ROY COHN WAS STILL
ADVISING.
ADVISING. >> HIS FRIENDS WILL SAY
PRIVATELY AND SOME OF THEM
PUBLICLY, THAT HE’S TOO
INCOMPETENT TO HAVE COLLUDED
WITH RUSSIA, BUT HE’S SO GOOD
THAT HE LURED TWO GUYS OFF THE
SUPREME COURT.
SUPREME COURT. >> LURED TWO GUYS OFF THE
SUPREME COURT.
SUPREME COURT. >> ONE DIED, JUST ONE.
>> AND THESE WILL BE THE GUYS
THAT WILL DETERMINE HIS LEGAL
FATE AND IN THE BALANCE IS ROE
V. WADE, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, ALL
OF THAT, THAT HE CAN GO TO HIS
BASE AND SAY, YES, I MAY DO ALL
OF THE THINGS THAT YOU
EVANGELICALS HAVE BEEN PREACHING
AGAINST, BUT LOOK AT WHAT I’VE
GIVEN YOU.
GIVEN YOU. AND HE CAN SURVIVE TO DESTROY
ANOTHER DAY, AND THIS IS SCARY,
AS SCARY AS IT GETS.
>> FRANK, YOU’RE LEAVING US
AFTER THIS BLOCK.
I’LL GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD.
TOO INCOMPETENT TO COLLUDE WITH
RUSSIA BUT --
>> I LOOKED AT CAREER CRIMINALS,
ORGANIZED CRIME FIGURES.
NONE OF THEM WERE TOO
INCOMPETENT TO COMMIT CRIMES AND
BE CORRUPT.
BE CORRUPT. THAT’S MY LAST WORD.
>> IS THAT’S A GOOD ONE.
FRANK FIGLIUZZI, THANKS SO MUCH.