BUT ALSO TO THE IRS.
>> Martha: INTERESTING.
THANKS, DAVID LEE MILLER
REPORTING IN NEW YORK.
WITH THAT, WE BRING IN ANDY
McCARTHY, FORMER FEDERAL
PROSECUTOR AND FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR.
ANDY, GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
YOU WATCHED THIS GET ROLLED OUT
THIS MORNING.
WE GOT WIND OF IT LAST NIGHT
THAT THIS WAS COMING, THAT THERE
WOULD BE CHARGES AGAINST ALL
MEMBERS OF THE WORKING TRUMP
TEAM AND THE REAL ESTATE AND THE
COMPANY.
WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THIS
SUIT?
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING,
MARTHA, THAT THE LAST THING
DAVID LEE SAID TO YOU IS THAT
THEY WERE GOING TO REFER THIS TO
THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF
NORTHERN.
THIS STARTED OUT AS A SOUTHERN
DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
INVESTIGATION.
IT WAS A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION
AND A THREE-YEAR INVESTIGATION
BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY’S
OFFICE.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DIDN’T
PURSUE IT.
I WOULD POINT OUT, THAT’S MY OLD
OFFICE.
I WAS THERE FOR 20 YEARS.
THEY DON’T WALK AWAY FROM AN
ATTRACTIVE CASE AND LET THE
STATE TAKE IT.
IT IS ASTONISHING WHEN YOU LOOK
AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT
THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, INFLATING PROPERTY
VALUES AND DOING THE SORTS OF
THINGS THAT IS NOT UNKNOWN IN
BUSINESS TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE YOUR
INSURANCE COVERAGE WHILE
MINIMIZING YOUR TAX LIABILITY.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE THING THAT YOU
EXPECT TO FIND IN A MASSIVE
FRAUD CASE IS AN ARRAY OF
VICTIMS.
ONE THING I THINK THAT IS
STARTLING ABOUT THIS IS THAT
THERE’S NO VICTIM IDENTIFIED.
THERE’S NO ONE THAT WAS ROLLED
OUT THAT SOME COMPANY OR SOME
POOR BUNCH OF SAPS THAT LOST
THEIR SHIRTS ON ACCOUNT OF
DEALING WITH TRUMP.
THAT DOESN’T EXECUTION THE
MACHINATIONS THAT ARE -- IF
THERE WAS INFLATION OF PROPERTY
VALUES, THAT’S OBVIOUSLY
SOMETHING THAT IS WRONG, BUT
IT’S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT MOST
COMPANIES WOULD LIKE TO SIT
THROUGH A THREE-YEAR
INVESTIGATION AND EXPECT TO COME
OUT WITH SORT OF A PERFECT
RECORD.
>> Martha: IT’S ALSO TRICKY
BECAUSE OF THE VIDEO THAT WE
PLAYED EARLIER DURING WHICH
LETITIA JAMES ON TONS OF
DIFFERENT OCCASIONS BASICALLY
SAID I’M COMING AFTER TRUMP,
THIS IS WHAT I’M GOING TO DO
WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING FOR
GOVERNOR.
I’M GOING TO TAKE HIM DOWN.
THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
IT HURTS YOUR CREDIBILITY WHEN
YOU BUILD YOUR CASE WHEN YOUR
PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT THE
SUBJECT OF THAT CASE ARE SO
BLATANT AND OBVIOUS.
HERE’S BILL BARR REACTING TO
THIS NEWS.
>> IT’S HARD FOR ME TO CONCLUDE
THAT IT’S NOT A POLITICAL HIT
JOB.
THIS IS A WOMAN THAT SAID SHE’S
GOING AFTER TRUMP WHICH SHE
GROSSLY OVERREACHES WHEN SHE
DRAGS THE CHILDREN INTO THIS.
YES, THEY HAD ROLES IN THE
BUSINESS.
BUT THISES HIS PERSONAL
FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
>> Martha: YEAH, IS THIS A GROSS
OVERREACH AND DO YOU THINK THERE
WILL BE ANY LEVERAGE GIVEN THE
FACT -- ALVIN BRAG HAD THIS CASE
AND THEY DUMPED IT.
A BUNCH OF ATTORNEYS WALKED AWAY
FROM IT.
DOES SHE HAVE ANY HOPE OF
LEVERAGING IN IN TO BACK INTO A
CRIMINAL CASE?
A CIVIL CASE?
>> I DON’T THINK SO, MARTHA.
THE PROFESSIONAL PROSECUTORS
LOOKED AT THIS FOR YEARS AND
DECIDED NOT TO BRING IT.
THE THOUGHT THAT LETITIA JAMES
FOUND SOMETHING THAT THE
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
DIDN’T AND ALVIN BRAG AND SY
VANCE BEFORE HIM WITH TWO TRIPS
UP AND DOWN TO THE SUPREME COURT
TO GET TRUMP’S FINANCIAL
RECORDS, THE THOUGHT THAT THE
PROFESSIONAL PROSECUTORS DIDN’T
FIND SOMETHING CRIMINAL HERE,
BUT SHE DID?
I THINK IT’S HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
I THINK WHAT BILL BARR TALKS
ABOUT IS AN ELEMENT OF THE STATE
SYSTEM THAT IS VERY
UNATTRACTIVE.
BILL, AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF
THE UNITED STATES, WAS NOMINATED
BY THE PRESIDENT AND HAD TO GET
THROUGH A VETTING PROCESS IN THE
SENATE THAT IS FOR AN APPOINTED
POSITION.
IN NEW YORK, ALL OF THESE
PROSECUTOR JOBS AND STATE
ATTORNEY JOBS ARE POLITICAL.
WHEN YOU GET THAT KIND OF A
SEEPING IN OF PEOPLE’S POLITICAL
INTERESTS IN TO THE LEGAL
SYSTEM, I THINK IT MAKES FOR A