irish dramatizes the number two that the state department under colin powell
ice-t_ was uh...
clued in to submit tough decisions that were made of helen dot some others the
says that he was not aware porter
uh... but that if he was he might have to be different action
uh... he said this in an interview with obvi louis uh... e is approved for a
program called all lines
and uh... it's etc indulges erecting wish interview
answering this is not allowed to new york a
in many of the cable companies to stop the dark
right beside the standard legally or anything like that
above the use of good reporting in this assembly is that
is that we have a quick to america for you guys
uh... the questions are excellent and richard are judges chances are very
physical assault watch and listen to right now
i wanted to take from someone who had served in bush in chains white house
former deputy secretary of state richard armitage agreed to meet me
and submit to my gentler form interrogation
predicated on the stand as you are the ones who are talking for a very long
time palestinian
the united states for sure people internationalisation hired people
fortune waterworld's uh... have been acknowledged
and for how concerned that structure
here in the administration of the time that yes i was in the industry
you knew that there was waterboarding going on melagenina stiff fortress
against along when you say that the united states for sure water-borne
specifically
fastened crime information because you're making huge intercultural history
that i thank god for the
the formulation you are pros
party says it
he's much more interested in reconciliation and correction of these
problems he wants to be a forward-looking man triumph so if the
truth if there were a truth commission and it reveals a portrait of play
systematically
five which means finishing
then the truth should lead to some consequences well im suggestion
consequences might be remedial rather than you're looking for someone who's
got
so the question is if you don't think there is no processes that is the
process what process do you think should be brought you might go back to what was
written by the framers of constitutional called congressional oversight
uh... this position
i don't think members of the senator who want to look into these things and i
have to personal manner
where were they here represented too
according to an end on the real deal
absolutely
well richard armitage is just a few nothing about torture at this time
he did tell me that he and colin powell his boss at the state department lost a
major battle within the administration over whether or not the geneva
conventions applied for the so-called war on terror
so when you knew that the administration with your heart
was department commissioner conventions and sign one-click
uh... e in hindsight maybe i should but uh... you one in those positions you see
how many more battles
please help you
maybe for yourself to say a muhammad mama forcefully x_y_z_ meet if i were
here
hill eyes
e i want to be clear on this richard armor titles one of the good guys and i
don't mean that that he was a saint or that he got everything right over the
disposition for all correct by any stretch of imagination
at that he did say
and you can see that he feels conflicted about that nieces made a fool of myself
initiative left anyway
but there's nobody to his argument
that hey look if the powells ann arbor times in the world persons
are the same people abortion restrictions
retreated in all left that then
dick cheney would annoy left behind to run the place
and that situation could have been worse so and i want to get out on a touch too
much because he did
fight against those
decisions to getting religion either connections and he says he didn't know
about the waterboarding and hence the torture uh... but i do want to get some
of his arms
uh... his arguments i don't buy lets the fork
i'll please i want criminal defendants in america to try that defense in court
hey look i know i am complex right
come on a super
overlooking lake up over the past warrior
i don't believe yesterday that's nebraska
live when i look forward or did not live in a place tomorrow
bbsr work in court
do you work with anyone outside of politicians
at one thirty one in the hoof
they had not heard before and so far no time for me
of since i want that passes hilda more remedial
i'd like that to you know bernie madoff goes to the did seven cities like come
on an initial fifty billion dollars but
so we have a class was available on the hill
i'll just go cannula fine or something or say well we've reconciling sells the
back to you rob us of fifty billion dollars
we have reconciling a search for reconciliation
so your freedom
uh... no it wouldn't work under any other circumstance except when you have
politicians who break the laws and then
the final date that really got me it's
pain medication dot oversight
but at the time if you try to congressional oversight
the too well what would stick there are five content as part of a punch lines
democrats although it was but politics
and now when you turn around and he didn't do it because you were weak and
the democrats did not do it without on this and they were in the minority for
redrawing the bush administration
but they had their opportunities to make uh... uh... they grow as you see the
republicans do and ed opportunities when they were in the majority to do
investigations
and they didn't know it is they were scared
and now the republic's rondo property say they didn't do any congressional
oversight
this is much therefore
and then when you do it when he asked what should we do something now these
are don't do any now look forward and in a couple years you know that they have
politician does on the agenda of the night
when of all bomb first came in
sip our water needs to do that
haitian incident that interest rate but he didn't do it that's it
it's your portion of the congressional oversight and uh...
limited to address it isn't it
admission to the owners tristen
i didn't do it if you are well you can do it cleared up let's look forward
look for my ass okay
that's a convenient excuse
to cover up
what we're real crimes
portrait is that prime
in the united states of america
all right now i'm not simply decide that's a little army guys did it he says
he was not aware of it
uh... and he fought against lifting the geneva conventions but his excuses that
to protect those guys don't
convincing at all
obviously