FABRIC JUST LAST NIGHT.
YASMIN.
>> GARY GRUMBACH, THANK YOU.
>> WANT TO BRING IN DEMOCRATIC
CONGRESSMAN SETH MOULTON FROM
MASSACHUSETTS.
HE'S ALSO A MARINE CORPS VETERAN
WHO SERVED IN IRAQ.
CONGRESSMAN, THANKS FOR JOINING
US.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU STRAIGHT
OUT OF THE GATE HERE, OF COURSE,
TO REACT TO THE PRESIDENT'S
COMMENTS YESTERDAY AT THE VERY
END OF THE SPEECH, THE FINAL FEW
WORDS IN WHICH HE SAID VLADIMIR
PUTIN CANNOT REMAIN IN POWER.
WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF IT, AND
WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THE
WALKBACK BY THE WHITE HOUSE?
>> WELL, LOOK, I THINK THE WHITE
HOUSE IS DOING THE RIGHT THING
HERE.
AND HERE'S WHY.
WE HAVE HEARD THE KREMLIN'S
SPOKESMAN TWICE NOW SAY THAT IF
THE RUSSIAN -- IF RUSSIANS'
EXISTENCE IS THREATENED, THEY
WILL RESORT TO NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
THE WHOLE GOAL IS FOR THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION TO PRESSURE PUTIN
WITHOUT ESCALATING THE WAR.
THE LAST THING WE WANT TO SEE IS
THE USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE
DEALING WITH A PRESIDENT HERE
WHO'S A MEGALOMANIAC.
HE CARES ABOUT HIMSELF, NOT HIS
PEOPLE.
MY WORRY IS THAT WHILE RUSSIAN
POLICY STATES THAT IF THE
COUNTRY IS THREATENED HE MIGHT
USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, PUTIN COULD
INTERPRET IT TO SAY IF HIS OWN
POWER IS THREATENED, HE MIGHT
USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
SO I THINK THE WHITE HOUSE DID
THE RIGHT THING.
IN TERM OF THE PRESIDENT, LOOK,
PRESIDENT BIDEN, THIS IS WHO
PRESIDENT BIDEN IS.
I KNOW JOE BIDEN.
HE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS.
HE SAID SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE
IN THE WORLD, I GUESS, WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF TUCKER CARLSON AND
DONALD TRUMP, IS THINKING, WHICH
IS THAT PUTIN HAS GOT TO GO.
>> PUTIN ALREADY THINKS THIS,
THOUGH.
THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING PEOPLE
ALREADY THINK THIS AS WELL, AND
THIS IS SOMETHING HE HAS ALREADY
COMMUNICATED TO THE RUSSIAN
PEOPLE.
SO WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE
THAT THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT IS
NOW STANDING UP ON A STAGE IN
WARSAW, POLAND, AND SAYING IT,
AND THE WHITE HOUSE SUBSEQUENTLY
WALKING IT BACK?
WHEN PUTIN ALREADY THINKS IT.
WITH YOU THINK HE'S GOING TO
MAKE A DECISION TO USE NUCLEAR
WEAPONS BASED OFF WHAT PRESIDENT
BIDEN SAID?
>> LOOK, THE POINT IS THAT PUTIN
IS LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE TO
ESCALATE THE WAR BECAUSE IT'S
NOT GOING WELL.
WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN
DOING ALL ALONG HERE, WHAT
PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS BEEN DOING
QUITE BRILLIANTLY, IS FINDING
WAYS TO SUPPORT THE UKRAINIANS,
TO PRESSURE PUTIN WITHOUT
ACTUALLY GIVING HIM AN EXCUSE TO
ESCALATE THE WAR.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT
RIGHT TO ESTABLISH A NO-FLY ZONE
OVER THE COUNTRY AS WELL.
WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE PUTIN AN
EXCUSE TO TURN THIS INTO A WAR
AGAINST NATO.
OF COURSE, THIS IS THE CASE THAT
PUTIN HAS BEEN TRYING TO MAKE
ALL ALONG, THAT THIS IS NOT
ABOUT CONQUERING UKRAINE.
IT'S ABOUT STOPPING NATO.
WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE HIM THE
AMMUNITION TO DO SO.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK
YOU'RE RIGHT THAT WHEN YOU SAY,
HEY, WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL HERE?
IS THE PRES OR REPUBLICANS
MAKING TOO MUCH OF A BIG DEAL
OVER THE PRESIDENT'S COMMENTS?
IN A CERTAIN SENSE, THEY ARE.
THE WHITE HOUSE DID WHAT THEY
HAVE TO DO FROM A POLICY
PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE ALL KNOW
PRESIDENT BIDEN IS SOMEONE WHO
SPEAKS THE TRUTH, SOMETIMES WHEN
EVEN MAYBE HE SHOULDN'T, AND I
THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES
WHERE HE SAID WHAT EVERYONE ELSE
WAS THINKING.
PROBABLY NOT A BIG DEAL AT THE
END OF THE DAY, BUT THERE'S A
REASON THE WHITE HOUSE WALKED IT
BACK.
>> A FEW THINGS I WANT TO GET TO
BEFORE I LET YOU GO.
I KNOW YOU'RE SPONSORING A BILL
AIMED AT TAKING OLIGARCHS' MONEY
TO HELP REBUILD UKRAINE.
>> WE CALL IT YAS FOR UKRAINE.
THE MESSAGE WE'RE SENDING TO ALL
OF THESE OLIGARCHS, MANY WHO
SEEM TO THINK THEY CAN JUST RIDE
THIS OUT, SITTING ON THEIR
YACHTS IN THE MEDITERRANEAN, NOT
WORRYING ABOUT THE WAR OR
CONFRONTING THEIR ENABLER, THE
WAR CRIMINAL VLADIMIR PUTIN,
ABOUT WHAT HE'S DOING.
WE'RE SENDING A MESSAGE TO THEM
THAT YOU CAN'T RIDE THIS OUT,
BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE ASSETS THAT
WE SAY WE SEIZE NOW, THEY'RE
GOING TO BE SEIZED PERMANENTLY
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE USED TO
REBUILD UKRAINE.
THE WHOLE MOTIVATION HERE IS TO
GET THEM TO ACTUALLY CONFRONT
VLADIMIR PUTIN AND STOP THIS
WAR.
THAT'S THE POINT BEHIND THESE
SANCTIONS.
BUT IF THE OLIGARCHS DON'T GET
THE MESSAGE THAT THEIR ASSETS
ARE GONE, NOT FOR A FEW WEEKS,
BUT GONE PERMANENTLY, THEN THEY
WON'T CONFRONT PUTIN, THAT'S
WHAT THIS BILL TRIES TO DO.
>> LET'S PLAY NAME THAT TEXT
MESSAGE, CONGRESSMAN.
WRITTEN BY WHO.
HELP THIS GREAT PRESIDENT STAND
FIRM.
YOU'RE THE LEADERS WITH HIM, WHO
IS STANDING FOR AMERICA'S
CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNANCE AT THE
PRECIPICE, THE MAJORITY KNOWS
BIDEN AND THE LEFT IS ATTEMPTING
THE GREATEST HIESEIST IN OUR
HISTORY.
YOU TWEETED ABOUT THIS AND THE
STORY "THE WASHINGTON POST"
BROKE WHEN IT CAME TO TEXT
MESSAGES BETWEEN GINNI THOMAS,
THE WIFE OF SUPREME COURT
JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS, AND
THEN CHIEF OF STAFF MARK MEADOWS
SAYING NOW WE KNOW WHY JUSTICE
THOMAS WANTED TO LET TRUMP HIDE
HIS RECORDS.
THIS IS EXHIBIT A ON WHY HE
BETTER RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THE
INEVITABLE TRUMP SCOTUS CASES.
EXPAND ON THAT FOR ME.
>> JUSTICE THOMAS WAS THE ONLY
JUSTICE ON THE ENTIRE SUPREME
COURT WHO VOTED AGAINST SHOWING
TRUMP'S RECORDS.
HE VOTED TO KEEP THEM PRIVATE.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE NOW WE KNOW
WHY.
SO WE NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF THIS.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY
WHAT JUSTICE THOMAS KNEW.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHEN HE
KNEW IT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE MOST
MODEST OF REQUESTS THAT HE
RECUSE HIMSELF FROM ALL FUTURE
DEALINGS WITH DONALD TRUMP.
I MEAN, THIS IS -- THIS HAS THE
SMELL OF CONSPIRACY AT THE
HIGHEST LEVELS.
IT'S TIME FOR THE JUSTICE DECOME