THE GOVERNMENT AND GIVE YOU, OUR
SOLDIERS, AND YOUR FAMILIES THE
BENEFITS AND WAGES YOU HAVE
EARNED.
BRIAN: THAT IS THE
POLITICS WITH OUR NATION'S
MILITARY AS THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT GOES INTO DAY 3 OF
SHUTDOWN.
IT IS EMBARRASSING.
HE ASSURES THEM THAT THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION IS ON THEIR SIDE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE
MILITARY?
MEET OUR PANEL.
DR. DARREN POUR CHER IS HERE.
ARMED VETERAN SERVES 10 YEARS IN
THE RESERVES CATHY BARNETT.
RETIRED MARINE CORPS CAPTAIN, AT
SELF-MADE, KATY HORRIGAN AND
RETIRED NAVY CAPTAIN, CONNER IS
HERE.
THIS MEANS THE MEN AND WOMEN
CONTINUE TO SERVE.
THEIR PAY IS DELAYED.
WHAT IS THAT LIKE?
>> THAT IS PRETTY DISHEARTENING
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, NO
MATTER WHAT THE BAD GUYS WILL
NOT STOP COMING.
YOU HAVE TO GET UP EVERY MORNING
TO GO DO YOUR JOB.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE
GOVERNMENT NOT BEING ABLE TO GET
THEMSELVES IN ORDER, IN ORDER TO
GET YOURSELF PAID IT IS VERY
DISHEARTENING.
BRIAN: THERE WERES
CANCELLATIONS, KATY, CANCELING
>> IT MATTERS.
IMPACTS RESERVE AND MILITARY
READINESS.
THE USE OF A SHUTDOWN AS
NEGOTIATING TOOL.
COMPROMISE TO ACT IN THE BEST
THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.
THAT SIGNALS WE HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH OUR SYSTEM.
IT'S A BROKEN SYSTEM.
THERE IS LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY
AND MISALIGNMENT OF INCENTIVES.
HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THIS CAN
HAPPEN WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE.
BRIAN: JOHN BOEHNER CAME OUT,
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NEVER GOING
TO CANCEL OBAMACARE.
THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN.
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUDGET.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
BUDGET.
>> HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
BUDGET.
THERE IS NO IMPLEMENT REASON FOR
IMMIGRATION TO BE A PART OF THE,
A PART OF THE FUNDING IN THIS
ROUND.
SO THIS IS SQUARELY A SCHUMER
SHUTDOWN.
DEMOCRATS OWN THIS ONE RIGHT
HERE.
BUT WE HAVE MEN AND WOMEN OUT
THERE PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE
LINE.
WE HAVE FAMILIES BEING TOLD TO
TRUST THEIR GOVERNMENT, TO DO
WHAT IS RIGHT, TO BRING THEIR
LOVED ONES BACK HOME TO THEM.
VOTES.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR
AMERICANS TO REALIZE THAT WHEN
HAVE THE MEDIA TRYING TO SHAME
THE PRESIDENT, OR MAKE IT HARDER
FOR THE PRESIDENT, WHAT THEY'RE
REALLY DOING IS RESISTING US THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE, WHO THEY ARE
REALLY MAKING IT HARDER FOR, US
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,
SPECIFICALLY THE MILITARY.
ACCORDING TO VA RECORDS.
VETERANS, POVERTY RATE IS ON THE
INCREASE.
THE NUMBER OF VETERANS WHO ARE
ON FOOD STAMPS IS FAR OUTPACING
THOSE WHO ARE NOT A PART OF THE
MILITARY.
SO I THINK THE LEAST WE CAN DO
MAKE SURE THEY'RE GETTING PAID.
MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF
THEIR NEEDS OVER THE NEEDS OF
PEOPLE WHO AREN'T EVEN CITIZENS.
BRIAN: WOULD BE GOOD IF THEY
SENT THE MILITARY AND BUDGET
DID.
CHUCK SCHUMER SAID WE GAVE
PRESIDENT MORE MONEY FOR THE
MILITARY THAN HE REQUESTED BUT
RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T GET TO I,
DARREN.
MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.
THESE PEOPLE LIVE IN THE
BARRACKS.
THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES.
SO THEY'RE REALLY IN A TOUGH
POSITION.
WHEN WE LOOK AT EXPONENTIAL
THREATS FACING THIS NATION FROM
PLACES LIKE CHINA, RUSSIA,
NORTH KOREA, IT IS INCUMBENT
UPON CONGRESS TO ELICIT THE
FUNDS AS MILITARY.
WHEN WE LOOK FORWARD WE HAVE TO
LOOK TO SOMEONE LIKE CHUCK
SCHUMER, AND HE IS GUILTY IN THE
COURT, HE IS GUILTY IN THE COURT
OF FORMAL TURPITUDE BECAUSE THIS
ISSUE IS IMPACTING JUST NOT ON
THE MILITARY BUT US ON THE
NATION AS A WHOLE.
BRIAN: THAT IS TRUE, CONNER.
THE PRESIDENT SAID IF YOU PUT ME
IN CHARGE I WILL MAKE SURE THIS
HAPPENS.
I WILL PUT EVERYONE IN THE ROOM.
HE TOLD "THE NEW YORK TIMES,"
WE'LL HANDLE THIS, DON'T GET
INVOLVED.
LEADERSHIP AT THE TOP THAT
SUPPORTS HE HAVE ONE UNDERNEATH
HIM IN HIS COMMAND.
AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF IT IS HIS
DUTY TO GET INVOLVED.
BRIAN: YOU WANT HIM IN THERE?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT
VICE PRESIDENT SAID ABOUT
HIMSELF AND PRESIDENT SUPPORTING
THE MILITARY.
CARE ABOUT THE MILITARY AND OUR
VETERANS.
THEY NEED TO GET MORE INVOLVED.
BRIAN: KATY, UNBELIEVABLE, THE
LAWMAKERS WHO HAVE THE SHUTDOWN
STILL GET PAID.
>> THAT IS UNCONSCIONABLE TO ME.
IF THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB,
WHICH IS HAPPENING, THIS BUDGET
PROCESS IS ABOUT ANYTHING BUT
THE BUDGET.
IT HAS BECOME A VEHICLE FOR
PARTISAN SQUABBLES.
IF THEY CAN'T GET THEIR JOB
DONE, THEY SHOULDN'T GET PAID.
BRIAN: WE'RE TRYING TO INVEST IN
MISSILE DEFENSE AND AIRCRAFT
CARRIERS AND HOW MANY WE SHOULD
BUILD.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH A MONTH
TO MONTH BUDGET, INSTEAD OF A
TWO-YEAR BUDGET YOU CAN'T PLAN.
>> IT TAKES 6 VOTES TO PASS --
60 VOTES TO PASS LEGISLATION IN
THE SENATE.
THE NARRATIVE IS DONALD TRUMP'S
FAULT.
EVERYTHING DEMOCRATS DO, WHETHER
IT IS WITH THE CHIP OR ANY OF
THE OTHER MEASURES THEY ARE IN
THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING.
THERE IS NOTHING THAT THEY
OPPOSE ABOUT IT.
BUT LIKE GENERAL MATTIS SAID,
CHINA AND RUSSIA ARE NOW, HAS
NOW REPLACED TERRORISM AS THE
NUMBER ONE THREAT TO OUR
NATIONAL SECURITY.
SO TO YOUR POINT, WE CAN'T GO
MONTH TO MONTH TRYING TO FIGURE
THIS PLAY OUT IN THE LONG RUN?
>> NORTH KOREA HAS LAUNCHED TWO
DIFFERENT MISSILES OVER JAPAN.
JAPAN IS NOW CONDUCTING WEAPONS
DRILLS FOR, EXCUSE ME, DRILLS
WE DON'T HAVE THE LOGISTICS TO
SUPPORT THIS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE, THIS
SHUTDOWN FOR EXAMPLE, IT IS OF
THE CITIZENS ABROAD.
BRIAN: WHAT WE SAW HAPPENED IN
HAWAII, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MANY
CATACLYSMIC EVENT.
38 MINUTES.