People don't do things in a pattern without a payoff,
so you have to say if you identify the payoff
you understand why they're doing what they're doing.
And she's doing this with all these people,
what's the payoff?
And she's told us the payoff is
she gets people to talk to her,
she feels like the center of attention,
she feels like she's the queen for the day.
Everything's focused on her.
She feels powerful.
She feels all of this currency.
It's a big payoff for her.
You think well but it hits the wall.
Well it doesn't hit the wall
if you've got 300 of them in a row.
You just go from one to the next
to the next to the next.
And it's just this constant currency.
She's getting a payoff for playing this role.
And you guys are, I'm sorry, just the next in the row.
And as soon as you find out,
she just moves on, ghosts you,
moves on to the one behind you.
So she just goes,
it's like being hooked on heroin,
she goes from one high to the next.
She goes from Julio and Lauren
to Suzie and Bob,
and from Suzie and Bob to Carol and Ted.
And from Carol and Ted
she goes on to,
so it's just she just stays on a high
of being a center of attention,
you're courted, all of these things
that make her feel powerful
and desirable.
And that's a, that's catnip.
I mean it's a payoff for her.
And until she finds a way to get that
that is less destructive,
the same validation, the same payoff
that's less destructive,
she's gonna default to this
because it's what she knows how to do.
And I think she needs serious help.
I mean when you say that she's got all
of these diagnoses, major depression
and bipolar; those are inconsistent diagnoses by the way.
Then she's hearing voices,
which is auditory hallucination,
which could be psychotic.
It could be secondary to medication
that she may be inconsistently taking
you just really don't know what all is going on with her,
and somebody needs to find out.
Somebody needs to find out what's going on with her,
and get her some coping skills
that she can use instead of doing what she's doing now.
And I'm prepared to make that help available to her
if she's willing to avail herself of it.
There's an organization that we work with
that deals with people that have been through trauma.
And I think that she has never really gotten over
the trauma that she's been through
with regard to her heart and losing her mother,
and one of these things have ever been dealt with.
And there's an organization called ONSITE.
And they deal with trauma victims.
And it's a residential program,
and it's on the outskirts of Nashville, Tennessee.
It's on 100 rolling acres.
And they bring in top experts from around the world
who work with folks
that have really been damaged by trauma.
And help them learn the coping skills necessary
to deal with that in a constructive fashion.
And we've talked with them,
and they are willing to accept her,
and take her in there and work with her
on an ongoing basis for however long is necessary
to get her feet on the ground,
and get her seeing the world through some clear lens.
And we'll give you the opportunity
to learn more about ONSITE,
but Miles Adcox is the head of that.
And I've worked with him for many, many years,
with great results.
And it's not a mental hospital, by the way,
they deal with maladaptive behaviors
and really help people to behave their way
to a healthier place in their life.
And I think it would be an ideal place to start with her.
And we're gonna talk to her about that.
And I want your support in her going there.
Yes, sir.
(upbeat music)
Gene, what are your thoughts?
I 100% support her going to that facility.
I trust Dr. Phil.
Gabby has been through a lot today,
and I just really hope that she takes the help
that Dr. Phil offers her.
Hi, Gabby, I'm Anthony Haskins,
the resource director here at Dr. Phil,
how are you?
Fine.
You look very cozy.
Dr. Phil wanted to offer you
opportunity to go to a program called ONSITE in Tennessee.
It's not a psychiatric unit or hospital,
it's a program that helps people
overcome traumas that have occurred in their history.
We wanna offer that to you.
I wanna go.
Excellent.
Give me a high five.
Really,
you're gonna goa?
Yes, I'm gonna go.
Fantastic.
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