Speaker 1: I want to start with something kind of funny today. Steve Doocy is one of the three
hosts of the Fox News morning show Fox and Friends. And over the last 6 to 12 months,
occasionally steve doocy has had these strange moments of clarity where he will interject a fact
or an actually sort of interesting analysis about a political situation. Usually his hosts look
kind of confused about the fact that he's rather than propagandizing, just saying something that's
uncontroversial is true. And of course, we're left to speculate about what's going on. Is a do sees
sort of private little way of rebelling against the disinformation spread on Fox and Friends,
or is it just that he stumbled across a fact which happens sometimes very on thsporadically on Fox
News? Who knows? These clips are from the decoding Fox News Twitter account, who does a really good
job in this clip talking about most of these clips are related to the 2024 Republican primary, which
is increasingly an interesting topic on Fox News because Fox News is sort of trying to figure out
what is our position going to be? Are we going to be overtly pro-Trump or are we going to be subtly
pro-Trump or are we going to be subtly anti-Trump in the sense that we will not talk about Trump the
most, or will we choose a particular candidate other than Trump, like DeSantis or others,
to attach ourselves to and try to really promote that candidate? It's not clear the direction Fox
News will go yet, but here is Steve Doocy stating something I talked about on the Wednesday show,
which is when you look at polling in May or June of the year before the primary,
it's very often not representative of who ultimately wins. And Steve Doocy actually
doing that analysis, which is a smart analysis and it's an appropriate one that we should be doing,
which has not been done on Fox News. Take a look. And his his co-hosts look visibly confused.
Speaker 2: And the first votes in the caucuses aren't going to be until July or rather, January,
she said. In May of 2027, Romney, McCain and Rudy were all in the top three and Mike Huckabee was
in 0%. But Mike Huckabee went on to win the Iowa caucuses. And then in May 2015, the top three were
Walker, Rubio and Huckabee and Cruz and Trump, who finished one and two, were not even at 10%.
Speaker 1: This is all true. Speaker 2: So so much can happen
in Iowa. And one of the great things said. Speaker 1: Okay, So this is absolutely
correct. And the message here is a very simple message. The fact that Trump is so far ahead
today doesn't guarantee that Trump will be the eventual Republican nominee. Now, it's great
that Steve Doocy is introducing some evidence into this historical evidence that I also introduced.
His data was specifically from Iowa, where I was talking more generally. At the same time,
it just so happens that this time around, the circumstances are particularly unprecedented in
the sense that, yes, the leader at this point in time isn't always the eventual nominee,
but the leader at this point in time also isn't usually a former president in that is what we
have right now. So great for Steve Doocy to bring these things up. The two people who sit alongside
him don't seem to know one way or the other what's going on. Here is another example. Steve Doocy
points out correctly that Desantis's argument that he could serve eight years if he wins in 2024,
whereas Trump would immediately be a lame duck is absolutely true. And Steve Doocy mentions that as
well as a reason that maybe Republicans do want to consider someone other than
Trump who would, on day one be a lame duck. Speaker 2: Interesting. I'm not avoiding the
punch. I'll address it, but it's not going to be my focus. And by the way, he's big into eight
years. I'm going to need more than four years to fix this. Donald Trump can only do four. I
need eight. I'll get eight. If you get me four, I'll get another four. If you like Donald Trump,
he can't give you another four. So that's a legitimate tactic without alienating the
base. You know, the famous thing is whoever beats Donald Trump, you have to beat him and
get his voters. If you beat him and lose his voters, you can't win. But and Brian,
you make the point that we were talking about last week, if Ron DeSantis wins, he get he can be he
can serve for two terms. But by the Constitution, Donald Trump, who's already served one term,
can only do another. So on his first day, he would be a lame duck. And that is one of the
considerations big donors have. And the worry from a lot of big donors is not only does so if
Donald Trump won the primary, it's a real good chance he would lose the White House but also
lose the House. And that's one of the problems. Speaker 1: But listen, I mean, it's a pretty good
analysis from Steve Doocy. I have to say. It's actually kind of like grounded in reality. I
have absolutely no idea whether this is the sort of thing that the Fox News audience even pays
attention to when they watch Fox and Friends. Fox and Friends is very much the type. A show that you
get to have on in the background while you're, I don't know, making breakfast or whatever,
whatever Fox News watchers do in the morning. I don't know that it's really getting through to
anyone. And I don't even know that Doocy is doing this specifically to push people away
from Trump and towards Ron DeSantis. But it is certainly a very, very interesting thing that
we are seeing. Also interesting is that some of the Fox hosts aren't thrilled with Trump's
attacks on his own, former press secretary Kayleigh MCENANY. Let's talk about that next.