that favor, we got him the
recliner.
So we took him the recliner.
It was in December.
It was a little after Christmas
because we had to deliver it in
his truck.
So that day, he gave his son
the card.
He handed the card to John,
and John put it in his wallet.
Then John did buy some things.
He bought some things that we
needed from Rite-Aid because he
has the same name as his dad,
so he used his ID and his dad's
card, John Kostich.
So I didn't spend that, and
they're just doing this out of
spite because he doesn't see his
daughter as much as he should.
>> Judge Judy: So what
you're saying is -- Shh.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Judge Judy: So what you're
saying is the $242 for your dog
was a gift, but the other
expenses you did not charge,
John Jr. charged
those things that you needed.
Step up.
>> With his father's...
>> Judge Judy: Shh.
Did you have possession of the
credit card?
>> Yes.
My dad gave it to me in my hand.
>> Judge Judy: When?
>> When I was leaving his
property.
>> Judge Judy: Just a second.
So he gave it to you when?
Just tell me when.
>> It was the day we took the
recliner to him.
I don't know the dates...
>> Judge Judy: Sometime in
December.
>> After Christmas.
>> Judge Judy: Don't speak.
Now I'm talking to him.
And when did you use it to
charge other things other than
the vet bill?
>> I don't know exactly what
dates, but I did.
I bought stuff for my house from
Rite-Aid because you're able to
use it at, like, a Rite-Aid or a
certain store, a pharmacy store.
>> Judge Judy: Did
Ms. Ramirez...
>> She never had it in her
possession.
>> Judge Judy: She never had it
in her possession.
Okay.
Do you have any proof,
Mr. Kostich, that Ms. Ramirez
ever had your card?
Do you have any receipts
that have her name on them?
>> No.
I have a witness that was there
when I handed her the card in
November.
It wasn't December.
>> Judge Judy: Doesn't matter.
I asked you whether you have any
proof that she used the card
rather than your son, who says
that he used the card.
>> No.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Then we're going to stay
with the vet bill.
Vet bill was $242.
>> And 40 cents.
>> Judge Judy: And that was
in November of 2016.
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: And, Mr. Kostich,
I'd like you to tell me what
your son and/or his girlfriend
bought you for Christmas.
>> A recliner.
>> Judge Judy: Do you know how
much it cost?
>> No, I don't.
>> Judge Judy: Do you have any
idea?
>> $200, $300, $400?
I'm not sure.
>> Judge Judy: Anywhere from
$200 to $400.
Do you know how much the
recliner cost?
>> It was $399.
>> Judge Judy: Plus tax.
>> Plus tax.
>> Judge Judy: Certainly more
than the $242 for a vet bill.
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: So if they were
that strapped for money at that
time in November but they had
enough money to spend far more
than that to buy you a recliner
and if it was a debt, why didn't
you say, "Take back the recliner
and give me my $242?"
>> Well, it wasn't just the
$242.
They ran up charges over $500.
>> Judge Judy: No, no, no.
No, no, no.
>> It was a Christmas present.
>> Judge Judy: Listen to me
carefully.
Not she -- and you didn't sue
your son.
I'm only interested in the vet
bill.
Your son says he used your
credit card.
You can't ascribe that to her
if he used your credit card
for things that he said he or
they needed for their household,
but he used it.
So what I don't understand is,
why didn't you tell them if you
felt that you should be repaid
this $242, why didn't you say,
"The recliner is a very nice
gift.
Take it back, get the money, and
give me the money that you owe
me?"
>> They gave it to me for
Christmas.
It was a Christmas gift.
If they want the recliner back,
I'll be glad to give it back to
them.
>> Judge Judy: No, not now.
We're not talking about now.
I'm saying then, this vet bill
for $242.
>> That was in November.
The chair didn't come until
December.
>> Judge Judy: So you were on
good terms?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: Until when?
>> Until I got an e-mail from
Credit Karma telling me that the
card was maxed out.
>> Judge Judy: Okay, but your
son said that was his doing.
>> I had a deal with Linda.
I talked with Linda.
I handed Linda the card.
I didn't give my son the card.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Whose dog is this?
>> John bought him for me.
>> Judge Judy: When?
>> It was maybe February of
2016.
>> Judge Judy: Did you call your
father and ask him for money for
the vet bill?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: And what did he
say to you?
>> He told me no.
Then I asked him...
Okay. Like, it wasn't hours.
It was probably 30 minutes
after.
The doctor came in, told us
exactly what's going on with the
puppy.
I asked him about the care
credit because I don't know
about this stuff.
The people that worked there do,
so when they presented that to
me, I said, "Okay, well, let me
see if he'll do this.
It's no money coming out of his
pocket, so maybe he'll do this."
And he did do it.
>> Judge Judy: What do you mean,
"It's no money coming out of his
pocket?"
>> It's a credit card.
>> Judge Judy: Somebody has got
to pay it eventually, John!
>> Oh, yeah, but there was no
money at the time coming out of
his pocket...
>> Judge Judy: I got it.
Just a second. I got it.
I got it.
So you asked him for the money
to pay the doctor, and he said,
"No," and then you said to him,
"Well, if you get a credit card,
it doesn't come right out
of your pocket right now."
So you have to pay him
back the $242.40?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: And 40 cents
for the vet bill.
Are we finished? Perfect.
Thank you. $242. We're done.