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LIZ: L WELCOME BACK.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
LOTS OF TALK AS WE COME BACK
FROM THE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND
ABOUT NEW YORK STATE GOVERNOR
ANDREW CUOMO NOW SAYING THAT
COVID-19 MODELS WERE WRONG.
THAT HE IS GETTING OUT OF THE
COVID-19 PROJECTION FORECASTING
BUSINESS.
THOSE MODELS WERE USED TO SHUT
DOWN THE ECONOMY WHICH PUT TENS
OF MILLIONS OUT OF WORK, CAUSED
SMALL BUSINESSES TO COLLAPSE AND
PUT COMPANIES LIKE HERTZ,
JCPENNEY, NEIMAN MARCUS NOW IN
BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDINGS, NEWS
COMING IN, AMTRAK IS ABOUT TO
LAY OFF 1/5 OF ITS WORKFORCE.
NOW WATCH THE NEW YORK GOVERNOR
ON THIS.
>> THE QUESTION IS, AT WHAT
POINT DO THE NUMBERS DROP TO THE
REOPENING THRESHOLD?
NOW PEOPLE CAN SPECULATE.
PEOPLE CAN GUESS.
I THINK NEXT WEEK.
I THINK TWO WEEKS.
I THINK A MONTH.
I’M OUT OF THAT BUSINESS BECAUSE
WE ALL FAILED AT THAT BUSINESS,
RIGHT?
ALL THE EARLY, NATIONAL EXPERTS,
HERE’S MY PROJECTION MODEL, HERE
IS MY PROJECTION MODEL, THEY
WERE ALL WRONG.
THEY WERE ALL WRONG.
LIZ: OKAY.
LET’S WELCOME BACK, IN A FOX
BUSINESS EXCLUSIVE, TRUMP 2020,
CAMPAIGN SENIOR ADVISOR LARA
TRUMP.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK ON, LARA.
YOUR REACTION TO GOVERNOR CUOMO
SAYING THE MODELS ARE WRONG?
>> HE IS RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE THE
MODELS WERE WRONG.
REMEMBER THE HYSTERIA BY THE WAY
AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS
THING, THAT THE PRESIDENT NEEDED
TO PRODUCE FOR THIS COUNTRY LIKE
A MILLION VENTILATORS.
THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE PERSON
LIZ, IN THIS ENTIRE COUNTRY THAT
NEEDED A VENTILATOR THAT DIDN’T
HAVE ONE THANKS TO THIS
PRESIDENT.
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND THE
CORONAVIRUS TASK FORCE REALLY
WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE
SURE THAT THEY DID EVERYTHING
POSSIBLE TO LOOK OUT FOR
AMERICANS AND MAKE SURE THAT
THEY WERE ON TOP OF THESE THINGS
BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE
PROBABLY DO FEEL THAT WAY.
I THINK WE ALL FEEL LIKE WE’VE
DONE WHAT WAS ASKED OF US.
THE CURVE HAS FLATTENED.
THE PROJECTIONS WERE NOT THANK
GOD, ACCURATE, WHEN IT CAME TO
JUST HOW BAD THIS MIGHT GET.
SO I WOULD SAY PROBABLY A LOT OF
PEOPLE AGREE WITH THAT
SENTIMENT.
LIZ: YOU KNOW, JPMORGAN CHASE,
LARA, IS SAYING THAT THE CASES
ARE GOING DOWN IN STATES THAT
REOPENED.
WE’RE SEEING, LET’S GIVE YOU THE
TREND LINE.
21 CASES SEEING CASES GOING
DOWN.
14 STATES ARE SEEING FLATTENING
OF CASES IN GROWTH THERE.
15 STATES SEEING INCREASES.
LARA, WEEKS AGO THE ATTACKS WERE
ON BASICALLY THE MEDIA.
THE MEDIA WAS ATTACKING THE
STATES THAT WERE REOPENING AND
ATTACKING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
THE @LAN -- AT LANTIC MAGAZINE
SAYING APPEASING THE TRUMP DEALT
CULT.
JENNIFER RUBIN REOPENING WOULD
CAUSE PEOPLE TO DIE.
ON GOVERNOR DESANTIS AND DEATH
CULT.
HOW MANY WILL DIE FOR THE DOW?
YOU COULD CALL THIS REVERTING TO
HYPE.
WHAT IS THE REACTION TO THIS
HEADLINE?
>> PRESIDENT WAS VERY CLEAR
DURING THE PANDEMIC THAT THE
CURE CANNOT BE WORSE THAN THE
DISEASE.
I GIVE CREDIT TO THE GOVERNORS
REOPENING THEIR STATES THE WAY
THEY HAVE.
WE HAVE TO GET NORMAL AT SOME
POINT, LIZ.
PEOPLE ARE DESPERATE TO GET BACK
TO WORK.
HAVE THEIR KIDS GO TO SCHOOL TO
GET BACK TO NORMAL LIFE.
EVERY PARENT DEALING WITH THE
ZOOM CLASSES ONLINE WITH THEIR
KIDS CAN APPRECIATE HOW MUCH WE
MAKE OUR KIDS BACK IN SCHOOL
SOME SEPTEMBER.
I GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO RON
DESANTIS OF FLORIDA.
LIZ: BUT CAN YOU -- YEAH, REOPEN
SCHOOLS WITH MITIGATING RISK
THOUGH?
>> I MEAN I THINK YOU CAN.
LOOK, AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO
WEIGH THE COSTS OF KEEPING
THINGS CLOSED AND THE REALITY
IS, I UNDERSTAND, I THINK ALL
AMERICANS UNDERSTAND THAT WE
NEEDED TO SHUT DOWN FOR A
CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME BUT IF
YOU STAY SHUT DOWN FOREVER, IT
DOESN’T WORK.
BUSINESSES ALL ACROSS THIS
COUNTRY WILL CLOSE FOREVER.
WE WILL GO BANKRUPT ULTIMATELY
AS A COUNTRY.
IT DOES TO THE WORK.
YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE
HEALTH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
COIN.
PEOPLE NOT GETTING DIAGNOSED
FOR, YOU KNOW, LIFE-THREATENING
DISEASES LIKE CANCER OUT THERE.
THINK ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH
TOLL TAKING ON PEOPLE.
PEOPLE WHO RELY ON ALCOHOLIC
ANONYMOUS GROUPS THINGS LIKE
THAT, ARE NOT ABLE TO GET HEALTH
AND TREATMENT THEY NEED.
AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU HAVE TO
OPEN THINGS BACK UP.
AGAIN I GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO
GOVERNORS SAY LET’S TRY IT.
TAKE IT SLOWLY, SEE HOW IT HAS
GONE.
YOU SEE HOW WELL IT HAS GONE.
YOU LOOK AT FLORIDA, WHERE THREE
PER 100,000 PEOPLE IN FLORIDA
HAS COME DOWN WITH THE
CORONAVIRUSS VERSUS 27.5 PER
100,000 IN THE STATE OF NEW
YORK.
SO RON DESANTIS DID --
LIZ: NEW YORK HAS, NEW YORK HAS,
NEW YORK HAS 14 TIMES MORE
FATALITIES THAT AN 14 HAS BUT
YOU KNOW, FLORIDA DIDN’T FOLLOW
THE GUIDELINES FROM THE CDC
ABOUT TAKING COVID PATIENTS BACK
INTO NURSING HOMES.
NEW YORK GOVERNOR AGAIN TRYING
TO BLAME THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT GUIDANCE
TO PUT COVID-19 PATIENTS BACK
INTO NURSING HOMES, KILLING
NEARLY 6,000 PEOPLE.
FLORIDA HAS 1.2 MILLION MORE
SENIOR CITIZENS THAN NEW YORK.
HE IS BLAMING CDC GUIDELINES AND
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ON THAT.
YOUR TAKE ON THAT?
>> WELL, I MEAN THAT IS EASY WAY
OUT.
YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT RON
DESANTIS REALLY PREPARED THE
NURSING HOMES DOWN IN FLORIDA
AND MADE SURE THAT THEY HAD
THOROUGH INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO
TEST THINGS AND GETTING PEOPLE
BACK INTO NURSING HOMES
POST-CORONAVIRUS.
THEY DID A REALLY GREAT JOB DOWN
THERE.
IT IS EASY TO POINT FINKERS IN A
SITUATION LIKE THIS.
WE HAVE TO GIVE CONTRACT
ULTIMATELY TO THE PRESIDENT
DOING THE RIGHT THING FROM DAY
ONE.
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, LIZ, WHEN
THIS PRESIDENT SHUT DOWN TRAVEL
FROM CHINA TO THE UNITED STATES,
WAS THE SAME DAY NANCY PELOSI
WAS HANDING OUT HER IMPEACHMENT
PENS TO DEMOCRATS AND DEMOCRATS
WERE TRYING TO IMPEACH THIS
PRESIDENT.
THANK GOD WE HAD DONALD TRUMP IN
THE WHITE HOUSE ACTUALLY LOOKING
OUT FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF
AMERICANS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO
POLITICIZE THIS WHOLE THING.
LIZ: GETTING THE ECONOMY BACK UP
AND RUNNING, CITIGROUP IS NOW
WARNING 44 MILLION, 44 MILLION
COULD BE AT RISK OF LOSING THEIR
JOBS.
31 MILLION OF THEM WOULD BE
WOMEN.
THAT IS WHAT CITIGROUP IS NOW
WARNING.
JOE BIDEN IS TRYING TO ATTACK
THE PRESIDENT ON HANDLING OF THE
PANDEMIC AND DAMAGE TO THE
ECONOMY.
DR. FAUCI WARNS ABOUT PERMANENT
DAMAGE TO THE ECONOMY SAYING
LOCKDOWN.
YOUR TAKE ON JOE BIDEN PLANNING
TO ATTACK THE PRESIDENT FOR
HANDLING OF THE COVID PANDEMIC?
>> EASY TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU
HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP IN YOUR
BASEMENT.
ALL WE HAVE TO LOOK AGAIN
JANUARY WHEN THE PRESIDENT LIKE
I SAID, STOPPED TRAVEL COMING
HERE FROM CHINA SAVE COUNTLESS
LIVES.
WHO KNOWS HOW MANY TENS OR
HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF LIVES
THE PRESIDENT SAVED MAKING THE
CALL.
JOE BIDEN CALLED IT XENOPHOBIC
AND FEAR-MONGERING.
DURING THE OPEN OBAMA-BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION, HANDLING OF
H1N1.
YOU DON’T WANT JOE BIDEN
HANDLING THIS.
H1N1 CAME TO THE UNITED STATES
IN APRIL OF 2009 IT WAS NOT
DECLARED A NATIONAL EMERGENCY
UNTIL MILLION PEOPLE HAD IT BY
OCTOBER OF THAT YEAR.
EASY JOE BIDEN TO SAY, I WOULD
DO A BETTER JOB.
THIS PRESIDENT AND THIS
ADMINISTRATION YOU HAVE TO GIVE
FULL CREDIT FOR THEIR HANDLING
OF THIS ENTIRE SITUATION.
NO ONE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT
NEEDED A VENTILATOR WENT WITHOUT
ONE.
LIZ: I HEAR YOU.
>> THERE WERE NO HOSPITALS
OVERFLOWING.
ULTIMATELY PEOPLE HAVE FOLLOWED
GUIDELINES.
WE’VE ALL BEEN HAPPY TO DO IT.
LIZ: THE CDC, BY THE WAY UNDER
OBAMA DID DECLARE IT A PUBLIC
HEALTH EMERGENCY BEFORE OCTOBER.
I HEAR WHAT YOU’RE SAYING ABOUT
A NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
TELL YOU WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE
STATES.
LARA THE BLUE STATES ARE REALLY
GETTING HIT HARD.
40% OF LEISURE HOSPITALITY,
CONSTRUCTION JOBS WIPED OUT IN
BLUE STATES.
AGAIN YOU CITE FLORIDA.
FLORIDA IS SEEING A FRACTION OF
THOSE JOBS LOSSES.
GOVERNOR DECIDED TO EXEMPT
CERTAIN WORKERS AND MOVE AHEAD
AND MOVE FORWARD TO KEEP THE
ECONOMY OPEN THERE.
I WANT YOUR TAKE ON THE DEMOCRAT
GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN, GRETCHEN
WHITMER NOW IN HOT WATER.
THE OWNER OF NORTHERN MICHIGAN
DOCK COMPANY, HER HUSBAND TRIED
TO USE HIS STATUS AS GOVERNOR’S
HUSBAND TO CUT IN FRONT OF LINE
TO GET THE GOVERNOR’S BOAT BACK
IN THE WATER BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY
ON IN A REGION SHE SHUT DOWN.
SHE SAID THIS WAS FUNNY.
THE GOVERNOR SAYING THIS WAS
MEANT TO BE A JOKE.
YOUR REACTION TO THIS
CONTROVERSY?
>> SHE SHOULD ASK THE PEOPLE OF
HER STATE THAT, DID THE PEOPLE
OF MICHIGAN THINK IT HAS BEEN A
JOKE WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN LOSING
JOBS LEFT AND RIGHT.
THEY HAVE BEEN DESPERATE TO GET
BACK TO WORK.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BEGGING
TO GET THEIR RIGHTS BACK SHE HAS
TAKEN AWAY.
YOU CAN GET AN ABORTION IN THE
STATE BUT YOU CAN’T GO BUY
PAINT.
LIKE THE WHOLE THING IS SO
CRAZY.
WHAT SHE HAS DONE THERE SO I
THINK I WOULD ASK THE PEOPLE OF
MICHIGAN, DO YOU FIND THAT
FUNNY?
I DON’T THINK IT IS VERY FUNNY
AT ALL.
I THINK INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RUN
FOR VICE PRESIDENT RUNNING MATE
FOR JOE BIDEN, MAYBE SHE SHOULD
HAVE BEEN THINKING MORE ABOUT
THE PEOPLE OF HER STATE?