MOST PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA ARE PRETTY PLEASED WITH HILLARY
CLINTON'S RECENT TAKEDOWN OF DONALD TRUMP OVER HIS
FOREIGN POLICY, WHICH SHE GAVE ON THURSDAY, BUT NOT
EVERYBODY, INCLUDING ONE CELEBRITY, ACTRESS, AND
SUPPORTER OF BERNIE SANDERS, SUSAN SARANDON.
SHE HAD THIS TO SAY.
HILLARY CLINTON TODAY IS GIVING A SPEECH BASICALLY
LAMBASTING HIM AS DANGEROUS FOR FOREIGN POLICY, I GET EMAILS
FROM HER CAMPAIGN SAYING THE SAME THING.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO
SEE MUCH MEDIA COVERAGE ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON'S FOREIGN
POLICY.
THERE YOU GO, THIS IS THE QUESTION.
I BELIEVE IN A WAY SHE
IS MORE DANGEROUS, EXCEPT THEY ARE BOTH TALKING TO HENRY
KISSINGER APPARENTLY LATELY, BUT HER RECORD, SHE DID NOT LEARN
FROM IRAQ, SHE IS AN INTERVENTIONIST AND SHE HAS DONE
HORRIBLE THINGS, HORRIBLE THINGS.
AND VERY CALLOUSLY.
I
DON'T KNOW SHE IS OR OVERCOMPENSATING OR WHAT HER
TRIP IS, BUT THAT SCARES ME.
I THINK WE WILL BE IN IRAN IN TWO SECONDS.
SHE LOBBIED OBAMA TO TAKE ACTION WITH SYRIA.
AND WHAT HAPPENED IN LIBYA, AND ALL THESE EMAILS ARE
DETRIMENTAL, AND HER ATTITUDE IS ALSO -- IT DOESN'T EVEN SEEM TO
BE DIFFICULT FOR HER TO DO THESE THINGS.
I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO
SEE IF ANYONE BRINGS UP ANYTHING.
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE
ARE FED, HE IS SO DANGEROUS.
SERIOUSLY, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT
A WALL BEING BUILT IN MEXICO PAYING FOR IT, HE WILL NOT GET
RID OF EVERY MUSLIM IN THE COUNTRY.
HAS HE MADE IT THE NORM
TO BE RACIST AND VENT THESE KINDS OF UN-AMERICAN THINGS?
YES, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS POLICIES ARE.
I KNOW WHAT HER
POLICIES ARE, I KNOW WHO SHE IS TAKING MONEY FROM, SHE IS
NOT TRANSPARENT AND NOBODY CALLS HER ON IT.
THAT IS SUSAN SARANDON.
ONE THING THAT IS INDISPUTABLY TRUE,
I THINK, IS WE DO KNOW WHERE HILLARY CLINTON STANDS.
AND WE
ARE REALLY NOT SURE WHERE DONALD TRUMP STANDS.
SO FOR PEOPLE WHO
DON'T LIKE EITHER THAT IS THE DEVIL YOU KNOW VERSUS THE DEVIL
YOU DON'T.
IN THAT SAYING, PEOPLE SAY STICK WITH THE DEVIL
YOU KNOW.
NORMALLY I SAY THE OPPOSITE, I SAY THE DEVIL I
KNOW, I ALREADY KNOW IS A DOUBLE.
IN THIS CASE I'M NOT
REFERRING TO HILLARY, I'M REFERRING TO THE ESTABLISHMENT.
I CAN'T STAND THE NO CHANGE CAMP.
WE KNOW THE TRACK THE
AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY IS ON, IT IS NOT GREAT.
HAVING SAID
THAT, THIS IS THE ONE CASE WHERE THE DEVIL I DON'T KNOW IS A HELL
OF A DEVIL.
SO I DON'T AGREE WITH SUSAN SARANDON THERE, BUT I
FIND HER POSITION INTERESTING.
SHE IS SAYING IF WE KEEP GOING
ON THIS PATH WE KNOW WHAT WE WILL GET, AND IT IS NOT A GOOD
ANSWER.
HOW CAN WE WALK INTO THAT KNOWING WHAT WE WILL GET?
THE REASON I DISAGREE WITH HER IS BECAUSE I THINK SHE IS TAKING
THE THREAT OF TRUMP NOT SERIOUSLY ENOUGH.
AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE THINK, THEY ARE NOT REALLY GOING
TO DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO, AND SOMETIMES
THEY DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY WILL DO.
>THINK IF WE HAD A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT FOR THE LAST
EIGHT YEARS, WE WOULD STILL BE IN AFGHANISTAN?
I THINK WE WOULD BE IN SYRIA, IRAN.
WHY IS THAT, DO YOU THINK?
YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT HAS
NEUTERED THE ANTIWAR MOVEMENT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT LINE OF
THINKING, JIMMY, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I WOULD SAY,
PRESIDENT OBAMA KEPT US OUT OF A WAR WITH IRAN, WHICH I WOULD
RANK AS HIS TOPIC COMPETENT.
WHICH WE DON'T TALK ABOUT.
JOHN MCCAIN WOULD HAVE BLUNDERED INTO IRAN ON
APPROXIMATELY THE THIRD DAY OF HIS PRESIDENCY.
HE SANG BOMB, BOMB IRAN.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO KEEP FUCKING MAKING GOOD POINTS --
A LOT OF SUSAN SARANDON'S CRITIQUES OF HIS WEEKLY AND LINE
UP WITH OURS, BUT SHE IS TOTALLY WITHIN HER RIGHTS, AND EVERYONE
IS, TO RATE THE THREAT OF TRUMP WHEREVER THEY WANT, BUT THERE
ARE SMART WAYS TO DO IT, AND THERE ARE WAYS THAT COME OFF
LOOKING A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T LIKE THE OPTICS.
I DON'T WANT TO
HEAR ANY WEALTHY CELEBRITY SAY I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE WALL.
OF COURSE YOU ARE NOT OR I AM NOT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD
BE AFFECTED BY BUILDING A WALL, SPENDING $11 BILLION, AND
TRYING TO DEPORT 13 MILLION PEOPLE AND BREAKING UP FAMILIES.
IT IS NOT CELEBRITIES THAT GET AFFECTED BY IT, IT IS
REGULAR PEOPLE.
AND THE LANGUAGE INVOLVED IN DOING THE WALL AND PITCHING IT,
WHAT THAT MEANS, WHAT THAT SIGNAL SENSE OF THE REST OF THE
WORLD.
THAT MATTERS A GREAT DEAL, AS WE JUST SAW MAYBE IN
SAN JOSE.
OR YOUR EXPERIENCE AT THE TRUMPET RALLY.
I WAS SHAKEN A LITTLE BIT, I HATE TO SAY THAT, NOBODY
CAME AFTER ME, BUT JUST BEING THERE WAS ENOUGH TO SHAKE ME.
BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY YOU ALMOST AGREED WITH SUSAN SARANDON THAT
YOU ARE MORE WORRIED ABOUT HILLARY'S FOREIGN POLICY THAN
TRUMP'S.
IT IS SIX OF ONE, HALF A DOZEN IN A SENSE, WE KNOW THAT THINGS
WILL HAPPEN WITH HILLARY, WE DON'T KNOW HOW BAD IT WILL BE
WITH TRUMP.
BUT THE THING THAT SUSAN SARANDON IS SAYING ABOUT
SHE DOESN'T WORRY ABOUT A WALL -- BUT FUSION ALREADY SAYS THAT
WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT IS DOING RIGHT NOW
IS WHAT TRUMP ONLY PROMISES TO DO.
WE ARE LIVING IN A SITUATION
RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING TO FUSION, WHERE BARACK OBAMA HAS DEPORTED
MORE HISPANICS THAN ALL THE U.S. PRESIDENTS SINCE THE 1890S
COMBINED.
WE HAVE NET IMMIGRATION ALREADY, SECOND OF ALL HILLARY
CLINTON HAS ALREADY VOTED FOR A BARRIER.
THEY ARE ALREADY DOING THESE THINGS.
WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
THAT IS WHY WE NEED VOICES LIKE HERS OUT THERE, BECAUSE
JOHN, YOU MIGHT SAY IT'S EASY FOR CELEBRITIES TO SAY, BUT MOST
CELEBRITIES DON'T SAY IT.
IT WILL HURT MOVIE SALES AND ALL
THAT STUFF, THEIR PR AGENTS TELL THEM NOT TO, BUT WHEN
CELEBRITIES SAY SOMETHING PEOPLE PAY MORE ATTENTION.
THAT
INTERVIEW BY JORDAN HAS BEEN COVERED BY HALF THE PRESS.
WHAT'S I GET THAT BUT THE SPECIFIC THING I'M CRITICIZING I
DON'T WANT CELEBRITIES TO SAY, BECAUSE I THINK IT EXISTS IN THE
BOTTLE OF CELEBRITY.
THE WALL DOES NOT AFFECT YOU.
I WANT HER
TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES BECAUSE HER STATUS MEANS MORE PEOPLE
WILL PAY ATTENTION, BUT IF YOU ARE SAYING DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE
WALL, DON'T WORRY ABOUT BANNING MUSLIMS, I DON'T WANT THAT
SPREAD BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH IT.
BUT I THINK SHE IS A VOICE SAYING, WORRY ABOUT WHAT WE
ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.
I GENERALLY AGREE WITH HER, I WAS JUST TAKING ISSUE WITH
AT ONE POINT AT THE END.
I DON'T GENERALLY AGREE WITH WHAT SHE SAYS BECAUSE SHE
DROPPED A GIANT ATOMIC BOMB IN THE MIDDLE OF IT WITH, I THINK
WE WILL BE IN IRAN IN TWO SECONDS, AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT
HILLARY CLINTON STARTED THE NEGOTIATION ON THE TREATY WITH
IRAN AND SUPPORTS IT ACTIVELY IN HER CAMPAIGN, IT IS ONE OF THE
FEW THINGS SHE CAN RUN ON, YOU CALL IT BARACK OBAMA'S BIGGEST
INCOMPETENT, SHE STARTED IT, IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE HER THE
CRITICISM FOR ALL THE FOREIGN POLICY MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE
IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WHEN SHE WAS SECRETARY OF STATE, SHE
GETS CREDIT FOR THAT ONE, AND IT IS A BIG ONE BECAUSE IT SUGGESTS
A DESIRE TO FIND A PEACEFUL SETTLEMENT WHERE YOU WOULD LEAST
SEE ONE.
DONALD TRUMP HAS ONE FOREIGN POLICY ADVISOR, TWO THAT
WE KNOW OF, ONE OF THEM IS JOHN BOLTON.
OH MY GOD.
WILL HE NOT JUST GO AWAY?
FOR ALL THE TALK ABOUT HILLARY AS A NEOCON, JOHN BOLTON IS.
AND
THE GUY WHO CLAIMS TO BE AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR WHEN HE WASN'T, HE
WAS IN FAVOR OF IT AND TURNED AFTERWARDS, SOONER THAN HILLARY
CLINTON, IT SHOULD BE NOTED -- ONE OF THE ONLY FOREIGN POLICY
ADVISERS HE CAN NAME IS ONE OF
THE ARCHITECTS OF THE IRAQ WAR
WHO STILL DEFENDS IT.
I THINK IT IS CLEAR WHAT THE GREATER RISK IS.
I THINK YOU CAN CRITICIZE HILLARY WHILE INDULGING
THAT THE RISK IS GREATER WITHOUT TRUMP.
DO YOU THINK HILLARY IS KIND OF LIKE A NIXON IN A SENSE?
WHERE SHE WENT TO CHINA, SHE COULD MAYBE BRING A SETTLEMENT
IN THE MIDDLE EAST?
SHE IS SO FAR RIGHT ON THAT
ISSUE MAYBE SHE COULD BRING IT TOGETHER AND MAKE IT HAPPEN?
SHE IS NOT SO FAR TO THE RIGHT ON THAT, YOU COULD BE
FARTHER TO THE RIGHT.
THE ISRAEL POLICY HAS SHIFTED LIKE THE
COUNTRY HAS SHIFTED.
SHE IS IN THE MAINSTREAM OF ESTABLISHMENT
BELIEF ON ISRAEL, SHE IS NOT A HAWK ON ISRAEL, BUT THE
MAINSTREAM IS PRETTY HAWKISH.
VERY HAWKISH.
YOU CAN GO FURTHER RIGHT, CHENEY OR
NETANYAHU, ETC.
FINALLY, WRAPPING ALL OF THIS UP, BEN IS
RIGHT, AND YESTERDAY'S SPEECH HILLARY CLINTON BRAGGED ABOUT
THE IRAN DEAL AND SAID SHE WAS PROUD OF IT, IT Is OUT OF WAR.
GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.
I HATE THAT WE HAVEN'T PUT IN A
BIND WHERE WE HAVE TO DECIDE BETWEEN NO CHANGE AND DISASTER
CHANGE.
IN THAT EQUATION, IT IS THE ONLY TIME THAT I WOULD
COUNTENANCE NO CHANGE.
I LIKE THAT SUSAN SARANDON IS A STRONG
VOICE SAYING NO CHANGE SUCKS, WHETHER I AGREE WITH HER OR
DISAGREE ON THIS SPECIFIC POINT.