>> AND ON THE VIRUS.
>> A PANDEMIC WHICH IS
DISAPPEARING.
ITS GOING TO DISAPPEAR.
>> AND JOINING ME NOW IS PETER
NAVARRO.
HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF TRADE AND
MANUFACTURING POLICY.
HA ALSO THE NATIONAL DEFENSE
PRODUCTION ACT COORDINATOR.
DR. NAVARRO, WELCOME BACK TO
"MEET THE PRESS" AND I WANT TO
START WITH SOMETHING THE CHIEF
OF STAFF SAID ON FRIDAY.
TAKE A LISTEN, SIR.
>> WERE GOING TO TAKE EXECUTIVE
ORDERS TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE SOME
OF THE PAIN THAT PEOPLE ARE
EXPERIENCING.
THIS IS NOT A PERFECT ANSWER.
WELL BE THE FIRST ONES TO SAY
THAT, BUT IT IS ALL THAT WE CAN
DO AND ALL THE PRESIDENT CAN DO
WITHIN THE CONFINES OF HIS
EXECUTIVE POWER.
>> SO IS THIS AN
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT?
DO YOU AGREE WITH THE CHIEF OF
STAFF THAT THIS IS NOT ENOUGH?
THAT THIS IS A SMALL AMOUNT HERE
AND IN ORDER TO DO MORE THATS
NECESSARY YOU STILL HAVE TO WORK
WITH CONGRESS?
>> HE DIDNT SAY IT WAS A SMALL
AMOUNT, CHUCK.
WHAT HE SAID WAS ITS NOT
ENOUGH.
WHAT WEVE GOT HERE IS THE
PRESIDENT TAKING ACTION ON FOUR
FRONTS TO HELP FOUR DISCREET
GROUPS.
SO YOU HAVE THE PAYROLL TAX CUT
WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A
SUBSTANTIAL WAGE HIKE FOR
AMERICANS WHO HAVE THEIR JOBS.
YOU HAVE A PLUS UP FOR WORKERS
WHO ARE ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT
LINES.
YOUVE GOT RELIEF FOR RENTERS
AND SINGLE-FAMILY HOMEOWNERS SO
THEY DONT BECOME HOMELESS AND
YOU HAVE, FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
HAVE THIS CRUSHING BURDEN OF
STUDENT LOAN.
YOU HAVE RELIEF AND THOSE ARE
FOUR, TARGETED SOLUTIONS AND
THAT WILL HELP DEAL WITH THE
PAIN.
ITS UNFORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE
NOT YET GOT A DEAL, BUT IN THE
ABSENCE OF THAT PRESIDENT DONALD
J. TRUMP IS ACTING ON BEHALF OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THESE
PROVISIONS.
SOME OF THEM LOOK LEGALLY
DUBIOUS HERE.
ARE YOU CONFIDENT -- WHAT GIVES
YOU CONFIDENCE THAT THE
PRESIDENT HAS THE POWER TO
DECIDE WHEN TO POSTPONE THE
COLLECTION OF TAXES?
>> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I
LEARNED HERE, CHUCK, AT THE
WHITE HOUSE GOING THROUGH A LOT
OF WORK ON EXECUTIVE ORDERS IS
WHAT WE HAVE THE STATUTORY
AUTHORITIES TO DO, AND IM
CONFIDENT THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE
OF THOSE ORDERS WHICH CLEARED
THROUGH THE OFFICE OF LEGAL
COUNSEL WILL STAND UP.
IF YOU LOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE
EVICTION AND FORECLOSURE
LANGUAGE IN YOUR OPENER THERE
YOU NOTED THE WORDS SHALL
CONSIDER.
THATS HOW YOU HAVE TO WRITE IT,
BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS IN THAT BURE
OK RAS THEY YOU DAVMMN WELL SHOU
DO IT AND YOU WILL.
THE PAYROLL TAX CUT, WE CLEARLY
HAD
HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT AND
THAT COULD BE DONE EASILY
THROUGH THE TREASURY DEFENDANTPA
AND I WOULD NOTE IN 2012 NANCY
PELOSI WAS A STRONG SUPPORTER OF
THE PAYROLL TAX CUT AND BARACK
OBAMA USED BONDS FUNDING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE SOCIAL SECURITY
WAS NOT HARMED IN ANY WAY AND
PRESIDENT TRUMP, THERES NOTHING
MORE STRONGLY THAN HE SUPPORTS
IS THE INTEGRITY OF SOCIAL
SECURITY.
SO EACH OF THESE PROVISIONS
WORK.
ITS UNFORTUNATE THAT THESE
NEGOTIATIONS TO DATE HAVE
FAILED, BUT LOOK, THIS SHOULD BE
EASIER THAN IT IS, CHUCK.
WE HAVE TWO SIDES AND ONES THAT
WANT ONE TRILLION AND THE OTHERS
WANT 3 TRILLION AND THE FIRST
THING IS AGREE ON SOME NUMBER IN
BETWEEN AND STEP TWO IS FIGURE
OUT WITHIN THAT WHAT YOU BOTH
AGREE ON SOMETHING LIKE A $1200
CHECK TO EVERY AMERICAN AND THEN
WHAT YOU DO --
>> RIGHT.
>> YOU TRADE OFF AND GO BACK AND
FORTH ACROSS THE TABLE WHAT YOU
WANT RESPECTING EACH OTHERS RED
LINES.
YOU DONT MAKE THE REPUBLICANS
PLAY FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD OR
PLATFORMS, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS
SHOULD BE EASY.
THE QUESTION WEVE HAD WATCHING
THIS UNFOLD.
THE QUESTION THE PRESIDENT HAS
IS WHETHER THE DEMOCRATS REALLY
ARE SINCERE WHEN THEY COME TO
THE TABLE, AND IM NOT SURE --
IT DOESNT HELP WHEN SPEAKER
PELOSI GOES OUT AFTER EVERY DAY
WITH SCARFS FLYING AND BEATS THE
HECK OUT OF US FOR BEING CRUEL
PEOPLE.
>> LET ME FOLLOW UP.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> NO, LET ME ASK YOU THIS,
WHERE IS THE PRESIDENT?
WHY WAS HE AT HIS GOLF CLUB ALL
WEEKEND?
WHY ISNT HE NEGOTIATING?
LOOK, I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS
DONT LIKE EACH OTHER AND NANCY
PELOSI -- WELL, WHERE IS HE?
WHY ISNT HE INVOLVED?
>> YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS
IS THE HARDEST-WORKING PRESIDENT
IN HISTORY.
HE WORKS 24/7.
HE COULD BE IN BEDMINISTER AND
MAR-A-LAGO AND HE COULD BE AT
THE WHIRLPOOL FACTORY LIKE WE
WERE THURSDAY CELEBRATING
WORKING MEN AND WOMEN.
THE PROBLEM HERE IS CAPITOL
HILL, THE SWAMP.
THE TWO HOUSES THAT ARE TOO FAR
APART.
THE LORD AND THE FOUNDING
FATHERS CREATED EXECUTIVE ORDERS
BECAUSE OF PARTISAN BICKERING
AND DIVIDED GOVERNMENT.
THATS WHAT WE HAVE HERE, BUT
THE PRESIDENT HAS TAKEN ACTION.
HIS CONSTITUENCY, LETS BE
CLEAR.
HIS CONSTITUENCY IS MAINSTREAM
REPUBLICANS AND BLUE COLLAR
DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS WHO
ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THE SWAMP
AND HE REACHED OUT AND HE TOOK
ACTION.
HE DIDNT HAVE TO -- HE COULD
HAVE JUST LET THIS KEEP GOING,
AND HE DID NOT.
HE TOOK ACTION, ACTION, ACTION
AND ACTION.
>> YOU -- OKAY.
YOU OUTLINED HOW A NEGOTIATION
WORKS AND YOU DID SOMETHING VERY
INTERESTING.
YOU SAID THE DEMOCRATS ARE 3
TRILLION AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE
1 TRILLION.
THATS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS
PROPOSED.
THEY SAID HEY, LETS MEET IN THE
MIDDLE ON A NUMBER AND IT LOOKS
LIKE MARK MEADOWS SAID NO.
>> NO, NO.
THATS NOT ACCURATE.
HERES THE THING -- THE CARDINAL
RULE IN NEGOTIATIONS IS YOU
DONT DO THEM ON TV.
YOU DONT DO THEM HERE ON TV AND
YOU DONT DO THEM IN CAPITOL
HILL IN THE ROTUNDA LIKE NANCY
PELOSI DOES.
YOU DO IT WITH SINCERITY AND
HAVE TO HAVE BOTH SIDES TO DO A
DEAL.
I KNOW A DEAL COULD BE DONE IF
YOU JUST GO BY THAT RULE.
IT CAN BE DONE, BUT IN THE
ABSENCE OF THIS -- PRESIDENT
TRUMP WILL ACT TO HELP PEOPLE
WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED, WHO ARE
HURTING, PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING
THAT NEED MORE MONEY.
RENTERS, HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE
REALLY FACING A BLEAK FUTURE OF
EVICTION AND FORECLOSURE USS AND
STUDENTS THAT NEED TO GET OUT
FROM UNDER THE BURDEN OF DEBT.
>> ASSUMING NEGOTIATIONS
CONTINUE AND A DEAL HAPPENS IN A
WEEK OR TWO WEEKS I ASSUME THE
EXECUTIVE ORDERS BECOME NULL AND
VOID?
>> IF CONGRESS SOLVES THE
PROBLEM THERES NO NEED FOR THE
PRESIDENT TO TAKE EXECUTIVE
ACTION, OKAY?
WELL SEE WHAT WE GET, BUT
HERES THE POINT.
LETS NOT GO THERE.
LETS GO TO THIS.
WE HAVE FOUR ACTIONS PRESIDENT
TRUMP HAS TAKEN THAT WILL HELP
WORKERS, THE UNEMPLOYED,
RENTERS, HOMEOWNERS AND
STUDENTS.
STUDENTS WHO HAVE STUDENT LOANS.
WHAT WE NEED IS SINCERE
NEGOTIATION.
WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT BOTH
SIDES ACTUALLY WANT A DEAL AND
THERE IS THIS THEORY, CHUCK,
THAT THE DEMOCRATS WOULD PREFER
TO SEE THE ECONOMY GO INTO THE
TANK FOR ANOTHER 90 DAYS BECAUSE
THAT HARMS THE PRESIDENT.
I HOPE THAT CAPITOL HILL HASNT
BECOME THAT CYNICAL, BUT
WATCHING THESE NEGOTIATIONS
MAKES ME WONDER.
>> THINK THE CYNICISMS ARE TOO
EXTREME.
I TAKE YOUR POINT.
>> WERE IT WILLING TO BEND.
>> HE HAS A REPUTATION OF
KILLING MORE DEALS --
>> THATS NOT FAIR.
>> HES A GREAT NEGOTIATOR AND
WHAT WE DONT WANT IS TO HAVE
THIS BREAK DOWN AND WE WENT UP
THERE IN GOOD FAITH AND WE
DIDNT SEE OUR SIDE GOING OUT IN
THE ROTUNDA THROWING GRENADES
AND IT WAS THE OTHER SIDE DOING
THAT.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE DP
APART OF YOUR JOB.
>> YES.
>> YOU WEAR A LOT OF HATS.
THE LAST DAYS OF SUMMER HOW
TRUMP FELL SHORT IN CONTAINING A
VIRUS AND I WANT TO PULL OUT
THIS PARAGRAPH BECAUSE I THINK
IT IMPACTS YOU, DR. NAVARRO, THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS RESISTED
DOING SO.
TRUMP AND SEVERAL WHITE HOUSE
AIDES HAVE INSTEAD CONTINUED TO
THINK THAT IT IS POLITICALLY
ADVANTAGEOUS TO SEE THE ISSUE TO
THE STATES TO AVOID TAKING
OWNERSHIP OR BLAME FOR THE ISSUE
EVEN THOUGH TESTING SHORTAGES
ARE LARGELY SEEN AS A FEDERAL
FAILURE.
WHY HAVENT YOU USED THE DPA TO
FIGURE -- TO HELP FIX THIS
TESTING PROBLEM IN THE COUNTRY?
>> SO WERE GOING TO COME OUT
WITH A REPORT EARLY THIS WEEK
THAT IDENTIFIES ALL OF THE
THINGS THE PRESIDENT HAS DONE
USING THE DEFENSE PRODUCTION
ACT.
THERES OVER 30 ACTIONS WEVE
TAKEN.
A LOT OF THEM RELATED TO
TESTING.
I THINK THE POSTERCHILD FOR THAT
WAS A DPA TITLE 3 THAT WE DID
THAT GOT GILFORD MAINE, AND
UPPING THE PRODUCTION OF SWABS
TO 20 MILLION A MONTH.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS WERE DOING
AND WERE FIGHTING USING THE DP
ON ALL FRONTS.
WERE USING THE DEFENSE
PRODUCTION ACT IN COKECOMO,
INDIANA, NOBODY WILL EVER, EVER
DO BETTER THAN THAT.
WHERE IS THAT URGENCY FOR
TESTING.
>> PARDON ME?
>> WHERE IS THE URGENCY FOR
TESTING?
THATS THE POINT HERE.
>> ILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER
EXAMPLE.
>> SELECTIVE INSTANCES.
>> WE ARE ISSUING GRANTS TO MACH
SURE WE GET POINT OF CARE VIRUS
TESTING.
THIS, TO ME, IS GOING TO BE THE
GAMECHANGER WHERE RIGHT NOW
WEVE GOT TWO TYPES, RIGHT?
WEVE GOT A LAB TEST THAT TAKES
A NUMBER OF DAYS WHICH IS NOT
OPTIMAL.
ITS HIGHLY ACCURATE AND WE HAVE
THE I.D. NOW OF ABBOTT WHICH
TAKES 15 TO 20 MINUTES AND WERE
EXPANDING THAT REACH AND WE HAVE
A POINT OF CARE THATS LIKE A
PREGNANCY TEST WHERE YOU CAN DO
IT AT YOUR HOME.
CHUCK, WE ARE WORKING 24/7 ON
THESE THINGS AND THEYVE MADE
GREAT PROGRESS ON THERAPEUTICS.
THIS PRESIDENT IS GOING TO
PROBABLY BE ABLE TO GET ONE OR
MORE VACCINES BY THE END OF THE
YEAR.
THATS A THIRD OF THE TIME IT
USUALLY TAKES IN USING A DEFENSE
PRODUCTION ACT.
SO ILL GET YOU -- ILL
PERSONALLY SEND YOU A COPY OF
THIS REPORT WHEN IT COMES OUT.
YOU TELL ME AFTERWARDS WHETHER
WEVE DONE A LOT USING THAT DPA,
BUT ITS THE MOST RAPID
INDUSTRIAL MOBILIZATION IN THIS
COUNTRY SINCE WORLD WAR II.
>> AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT
OF PEOPLE THAT HEAR YOUR
ENTHUSIASM AND WANT TO SEE YOU
USE IT EVEN MORE, BUT DR.