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>>> I’M BOOK NOW WITH MY FELLOW
ROAD WARRIORS, KATY TUR, KASIE
HUNT AND JACOB SOBOROFF JOINING
US AS WELL
KATY, WE’LL START WITH YOU
YOU HAVE INTERESTING NEW
REPORTING ON A GROUP OF VOTERS
THAT HAVE LOOMED LARGE CERTAINLY
THE LAST FOUR YEARS, DONALD
TRUMP’S BASE
WHAT ARE YOU FINDING OUT THERE.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU
I MISS ALL OF YOU GUYS
I’VE BEEN TRYING TO GO OUT AND
TALK TO VOTERS AS MUCH AS I CAN
WITHIN THE DISTANCE THAT I’M
ABLE TO GET TO HERE IN NEW YORK
CITY
THE OTHER DAY I WENT TO A TRUMP
BOAT PARADE AT THE BOTTOM OF
MANHATTAN.
I WANTED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS
PHENOMENON WAS ALL ABOUT, WHY
PEOPLE FELT THE NEED TO GET ON
THE BOAT AND HAVE A TRUMP
IMPERSONATOR, WHICH BY THE WAY A
LOT OF NEW YORKERS FELT WAS
ACTUALLY TRUMP, COVERING IT FROM
STERN TO BOW WITH TRUMP FLAGS.
WHAT COMPELS YOU TO DO THAT,
WRAP YOURSELF IN DONALD TRUMP.
>> OH, MY.
>> IT LINED UP VERY CLOSELY WITH
WHAT I FOUND IN 2016 AND PERHAPS
EVEN MORE INTENSE NOW, WHICH IS
THAT DONALD TRUMP IS TRULY A
PART OF THEIR IDENTITY
WHEN DONALD TRUMP IS ATTACKED,
THEY PERSONALLY FEEL ATTACKED.
TAKE A LISTEN TO SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS THAT I GOT
FROM SOME FOLKS JUST THE OTHER
DAY.
>> I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ENJOY
THIS PRESIDENCY.
THEY JUST KEEP PUSHING, PUSHING.
HE WON
GET OVER IT.
I’M NOT ANTAGONIZING
I LOVE THAT HE’S PRESIDENT
WHY CAN’T I ENJOY THAT.
>> Reporter: DO YOU FEEL HE’S A
PART OF YOUR IDENTITY?
>> IS HE A PART OF MY IDENTITY
>> Reporter: DID YOU WEAR GEORGE
BUSH SHIRTS AND DO GEORGE BUSH
PARADES AND HAVE GEORGE BUSH
FLAGS?
>> I DIDN’T NEED TO BECAUSE THE
PRESS WASN’T SO HARD ON GEORGE
BUSH
THEY DON’T WANT TO SPIN IT SO
GREAT.
>> DO I FEEL VICTIMIZED, I LIVE
IN MANHATTAN, AS SOON AS I WALK
OUT THE DOOR, PEOPLE GET
POLITICAL.
I GO TO A BAR.
GET OUT, YOU’RE NOT WELCOME
HERE
PEOPLE KNOCKING OFF MY HATS,
PEOPLE SPITTING ON ME, THROWING
EGGS AT MY HOUSE
VICTIMIZED IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
WE’RE GETTING TIRED OF IT.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
>> RIGHT NOW IF YOU’RE A
REPUBLICAN, YOU’RE EVIL.
THE CANCEL CULTURE, YOU TRY TO
GET TWO ARGUMENTS IN AND THEN
YOU’RE REFERRED TO AS SAD OR A
RUSSIAN BOT.
>> SO THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT
FOR THIS COMING ELECTION, NOT
JUST FOR DONALD TRUMP BUT FOR
REPUBLICANS IN GENERAL
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS POLL FROM
NBC NEWS AND THE "WALL STREET
JOURNAL.
IT SHOWS YOU WHEN YOU ASK
REPUBLICAN-LEANING VOTERS AND
REPUBLICAN VOTERS WHO THEY
IDENTIFY WITH, THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY OR DONALD TRUMP, THE
MAJORITY
MAJORITY, ALMOST THE MAJORITY
SAY THEY IDENTIFY AS PRESIDENT
TRUMP SUPPORTERS A LOT MORE THAN
THOSE THAT SAY THEY IDENTIFY AS
GOP SUPPORTERS
AMONG THOSE WHO IDENTIFY AS
DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTERS, SAY
THEY APPROVE OF HIM 99%.
THERE’S ALSO THIS THAT I SAW IN
2016, SEEING A LOT NOW
THIS SHIRT, IF YOU DON’T LIKE
TRUMP, YOU PROBABLY DON’T LIKE
ME
AGAIN POINTING TO DONALD TRUMP
AS PART OF PEOPLE’S IDENTITY
I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO KEEP
THIS IN MIND BECAUSE THE SUPPORT
IS SO SERVANT, SO CEMENTED
AGAIN, FOR THEM IT IS ABOUT
IDENTITY
TRUMP IS WHO THEY ARE.
SO THEY’RE GOING TO GO OUT AND
VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP NO MATTER
WHAT
THAT’S PART OF WHY YOU’RE SEEING
DONALD TRUMP BRING IN ALL OF
THESE CULTURE WAR ISSUES WHEN HE
GOES OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
AND WHEN HE SPEAKS TO THE PRESS
AT THE WHITE HOUSE, TRYING TO
CONVINCE EVERY SINGLE 2016 VOTER
THAT CAME OUT FOR HIM THAT IT IS
THEM VERSUS DONALD TRUMP, AS IT
IS THEM VERSUS YOU
IT’S THE DEMOCRATS AND EVERYBODY
ELSE VERSUS YOU.
YOU NEED TO COME OUT BECAUSE
THIS IS YOUR LIVELIHOOD, THIS IS
YOUR SURVIVAL THAT YOU NEED TO
COME AND VOTE FOR.
KASIE, I FIND THIS TO BE SO
INTERESTING, BECAUSE WHEN YOU
TALK ABOUT ARE THERE PERSUADABLE
VOTERS, VOTERS YOU CAN CONVINCE,
LISTEN, MAYBE WHAT THE PRESIDENT
IS SAYING ISN’T TRUE, EVEN WHEN
YOU HAVE THE FACTS IN FRONT OF
YOU, EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE THE
PRESIDENT’S OWN WORDS IN FRONT
OF YOU, THEY’RE NOT CONVINCIBLE,
THEY’RE NOT SEEING IT BECAUSE IT
DOESN’T LINE UP WITH WHAT DONALD
TRUMP SAID
I IMAGINE THIS IS MAKING IT VERY
DIFFICULT FOR A NUMBER OF
REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW WHO ARE
ALSO UP FOR RE-ELECTION AS THEY
TRY TO NAVIGATE THE WATERS IN
THEIR OWN STATES LIKE WHAT YOU
WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH VAUGHN HILLYARD A MOMENT AGO WITH
HILLYARD A MOMENT AGO WITH
MARTHA McKATY, I THINK THAT SLID
PUT UP, MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT IT
UP AGAIN, IT EXPLAINS SO MUCH
ABOUT THE STATE OF PLAY HERE AND
WHY THERE ARE SO MANY
REPUBLICANS OUT THERE WHO DON’T
WANT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AMONG
TRUMP REPUBLICANS, 99% APPROVAL.
HALF OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
REPUBLICANS SAY THEY IDENTIFY
FIRST AS TRUMP SUPPORTERS, NOT
AS SUPPORTERS OF THE BROADER
PARTY.
THIS REALLY ILLUSTRATES THE
FUNDAMENTAL TAKEOVER THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS LAUNCHED OF
THE GOP.
IT ALSO I THINK MAY MASK
SOMETHING ELSE THAT’S GOING ON
WHICH IS THERE HAVE BEEN SOME
PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY AND CONSIDER
THEMSELVES NOW TO BE
INDEPENDENTS
YOU’RE SEEING THAT IN THE ADS,
FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE LINCOLN
PROJECT.
BUT THIS PUTS MEMBERS OF THE OLD
SCHOOL VERSION OF THE GOP, SO TO
SPEAK, INTO A VERY DIFFICULT
PLACE BECAUSE THEY TEND TO HAVE
TO WIN THEIR STATES BY BRINGING
INDEPENDENT VOTERS ON BOARD.
MITCH McCONNELL HAS A PARTICULAR
FOCUSED VERY MUCH ON MAKING SURE
HE’S NOMINATING CANDIDATES THAT
APPEAL TO A WIDER AUDIENCE
AS WE TALKED TO VAUGHN ABOUT AND
THIS IS TRUE IN OTHER STATES
ACROSS THE MAP, A LOT OF THESE
REPUBLICAN SENATE CANDIDATES ARE
RUNNING BEHIND PRESIDENT TRUMP
IN THE POLLING
SO THE POLLING WILL SHOW, AND
STEVE KNOWS THIS VERY WELL, THAT
DONALD TRUMP IS A COUPLE POINTS
AHEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN SENATE
CANDIDATE.
THAT’S BECAUSE THAT COALITION,
THAT SAME COALITION DOESN’T
EXIST.
FOR THAT REASON, KATY, A LOT OF
THESE FOLKS ARE NOT NECESSARILY
CULTURE WARRIORS IN THE MODE OF
DONALD TRUMP, AND HE CLEARLY HAS
BROUGHT SOME NEW PEOPLE INTO THE
PROCESS.
JACOB, I’M CURIOUS, YOU SPOKE TO
SO MANY VOTERS IN 2016, SOME OF
WHOM ENDED UP VOTING FOR TRUMP
I KNOW YOU WERE IN ARIZONA
TALKING TO VOTERS, PARTICULARLY
ABOUT THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE.
WHAT STICKS OUT TO YOU IN TERMS
OF WHAT YOU HEARD THEN AND WHAT
YOU’RE HEARING NOW
>> I’VE BEEN STUCK IN MY LAUNDRY
ROOM FOR MUCH OF THIS ELECTION
WHEN WE USED TO BE OUT AND BE
ABLE TO SPEAK TO SO MANY PEOPLE,
WE WERE ABLE TO -- CREDIT TO
VAUGHN AND SHAQ AND TRYMAINE, WE
USED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT LIFE IS
REALLY LIKE.
COVID HAS MADE IT SO HARD FOR
PEOPLE IN OUR POSITION
THE REALITY S WHAT I WANTED TO
DO -- THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE
DEMOCRATS WHO WERE GIVEN A LOOK
AT TRUMP BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF
AFFAIRS IN THEIR AREAS AT THE
TIECHLT THE ELECTION RESULTS
REFLECTED THAT
ONE PERSON I REMEMBER SPENDING
TIME WITH FONDLY WAS ANDREW
JACKSON, NOT THE PRESIDENT
ACTUALLY, WHO LIVED IN EUCLID,
OHIO, OUTSIDE OF CLEVELAND, ONE
OF MANY PLACES WHERE
MANUFACTURING WAS DECIMATED.
THE MESSAGE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP,
DESPITE THE FACT THIS GENTLEMAN
WAS A DEMOCRAT, DIDN’T END UP
VOTING FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP
MEANT A LOT TO HIM
I FOLLOWED UP WITH HIM RECENTLY.
I’LL TELL YOU WHAT HE SAID ON
THE OTHER SIDE OF WHAT HE TOLD
ME IN 2016.
>> AS YOU CAN TELL, A LOT OF THE
STORE FRONTS ARE EMPTY
IT’S BECAUSE OF THE LOCAL
ECONOMY IN THIS AREA
ICE CREAM SHOPS THAT ARE CLOSED.
>> CLOSED.
>> CLOSED, CLOSED.
>> WOW
SO WHAT’S GOING ON OVER IN
CLEVELAND RANGE?
>> WE’RE CLOSING.
>>HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK HERE?
>> WE HAD OVER 200 AT ONE TIME.
>> HOW MANY ARE LOSING THEIR
JOBS
>> ABOUT 170 PEOPLE ARE LOSING
THEIR JOBS.
>> OUT OF THE 200, ALMOST
EVERYBODY.
>> ALMOST EVERYONE WILL BE GONE.
>> SO MR. JACKSON SPOKE WITH THE
PRODUCER WHO I SPENT ALL OF
2016 -- HE WAS MY WORK HUSBAND
ON THE ROAD WITH JUST YESTERDAY.
HE SAID THINGS ARE TEN TIMES
WORSE NOW IN EUCLID, OHIO,
CLEVELAND RANGE, THEY MAKE
STEAMERS, FOOD STEAMERS.
THEY LEFT AND ARE OUT OF THE
COUNTRY.
COVID HAS MADE THINGS EVEN
WORSE.
I THINK WHAT THIS REALLY
UNDERSCORES FOR ME IS THAT BOTH
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS
ECONOMICALLY HAVE FAILED THESE
PARTS OF THE COUNTRY
WHAT DO THEY DO NOW?
IT’S A QUESTION THAT SO MANY
VOTERS WILL BE THINKING ABOUT,
AND OBVIOUSLY IT’S GOING TO COME
INTO PLAY.
I LIVE IN L.A.
THERE ARE 60,000 HOMELESS PEOPLE
LIVING ON THE STREETS HERE
IT’S AN UNDENIABLE FACT THAT
NEITHER PARTY HAS BEEN ABLE TO
SOLVE THE ECONOMIC CRISIS.
INEQUALITY CONTINUES TO GROW
IT’S AN ISSUE I’M KEENLY
INTERESTED IN AND I THINK WE’LL
SEE PLAYING OUT IN THE ELECTION.
STEVE.
>> THAT’S REALLY INTERESTING,
JAKE
I’M WATCHING THAT VIDEO OF YOUR
INTERVIEW FROM 2016, THEY HAVE
THE LABEL IN THE SCREEN THAT
SAYS 2016.
I KNOW IT’S NOT 2020 BECAUSE
NEITHER OF YOU ARE WEARING MASKS
IN A CAR
ONE OF THOSE LITTLE SIGNS OF HOW
MUCH THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THIS
CAMPAIGN
JACOB SOBOROFF, KASIE HUNT,
THANKS FOR BEING WITH US