uh William Barr was Donald Trump's Attorney General and William Barr I do not consider a
friend of the Progressive Movement William Barr is not someone I would even remotely consider
for attorney general but William Barr does have some legal expertise there is no question about
that and William Barr went on Fox News Sunday and said that if half of the new Federal indictment
Federal indictment against Trump is true Trump is toast this is super interesting stuff it wildly
triggered Donald Trump let's listen to what Barr had to say and he's making a lot of sense here
um what about this this Chief argument that comes up for the president's allies and his legal team
that this should have been handled under the presidential records act not this espion act
Espionage Act charge in other Federal statutes that were used here well it started out under the
presidential records act and and the archives trying to retrieve documents that Trump had
no right to have but it quickly became clear that what the government was really worried about were
these classified and very sensitive documents I was shocked by the degree of sensitivity of these
documents and how many there were frankly and uh so the government's agenda was to get those
uh protect those documents and get them out and I think it was perfectly appropriate to do that it
was the right thing to do and I think the counts under the Espionage Act that he willfully retained
those documents or solid counts now I I do think we have to wait and see what the defense says
and and what proves to be true but I do think that even half what Andy McCarthy said which
is if even half of it is true then he's toast I mean it's a it's a pretty it's a very detailed
indictment and it's very very damning okay that is an extraordinary statement and it also
sort of deals with one of the claims that so-called legal experts like Mark Levin are
making which is that this stuff isn't even really related to the criminal world of law that this
is all just presidential records act subject to that and William Barr says sure initially
it was subject to that but between based on the evidence in the indictment which includes alleged
obstruction and it includes all of these other things that Trump is accused of doing it becomes
criminal and that's that's it it's short you can say until you're you're blue in the face this is
presidential record stuff it went criminal when Trump covered it up tried to keep the documents
potentially tried to destroy documents etc etc uh and that is absolutely very very serious
stuff then we go to Fox news's favorite legal commentator Jonathan Turley Jonathan Turley has
been defending Trump reflexively for year years now on so many different issues even Jonathan
Turley says this is a very damning indictment listen to this president gozad to say well what
if we what happens if we just don't respond at all to The subpoena I guess or don't play ball
with them the president goes on to say wouldn't it be better if we just told them we don't have
anything here well look isn't it better if there are no documents uh you know they they've got
these conversations that were memorialized by the president's attorneys there's also this recording
of him where he talks about this plan that's believed an attack plan against Iran I mean
they've got a lot of information in this Jonathan no it is an extremely damning indictment uh you
know there are indictments there are sometimes called narrative or speaking indictments these
are indictments uh that are really meant to uh make a point as to the depth of the evidence there
are some indictments that are just Bare Bones this is not uh the special counsel uh knew that
there would be a lot of people who were going to allege uh that the Department of Justice was
acting in a biased or politically motivated way this is clearly an indictment uh that was drafted
to answer those questions it's overwhelming and detailed and you know the Trump team should not
fool itself these are hits below the water line uh these are witnesses who apparently
testified under oath gave statements to Federal investigators both of which can be criminally
charged if they're false those Witnesses are directly quoting the president uh in in
encouraging others not to look for documents or allegedly to conceal them it's damaging and the
key here to keep in mind is that every case I've ever been involved with the indictment was a Heart
Stopper you know these are written by lawyers who are trying to convict a client every indictment
I've ever dealt with has fallen apart to some degree once we look more carefully about the
evidence may be but this is is not a an indictment that you can dismiss all right so there is
Jonathan Turley even with his hemming and hawing saying this is very serious stuff back to William
Barr William Barr putting the blame for all of this squarely on Trump and that's where it should
be so and we can't forget here that this entire thing came about because of Reckless conduct
of the president if he had just turned over the documents which I think every other person in
the country would have done the government's documents their official records they're not
his personal records battle plans for an attack on another country or or defense department documents
about our capabilities are in no universe Donald J Trump's personal documents and
then lastly from William Barr Trump's claims that other presidents did the same thing Barr debunks
it good for him to his credit he is undoing every single one of these Trump arguments this
took all these documents those were situations where they arranged with the archives to set
up special space under the management control and security provided by the archivist to temporarily
put documents until the libraries were ready because we're not people just putting them
in their basement okay and the second thing that the president this idea that that that
the president has complete authority to declare any document personal is obvious
it's facially ridiculous that opinion had to do with the distinction between official
records which are records prepared by government agencies for the purpose of government action
and personal documents as opposed to official documents which are things prepared by the
president such as a diary or notes which are not used in the government's deliberations
and yes as to the second class stuff that the president himself generates the president has
some discretion but these are official documents it's an arguable yep listen
um William Barr you don't have to like them to recognize that he is on much stronger legal
footing here than a random Fox news commentator indignantly saying there's nothing here William
Barr is right and that's why it so triggered Donald Trump when he said this let's talk about
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