- Hey guys, welcome back to another video.
In this one we are doing a comparison and testing to see
which lenses work the best for the auto-focus on the FX9.
So I have my FX9 here now.
And I have the, one of the kit lenses with it.
The 28-135, but I have a bunch of my other lenses there.
And some other lenses
that I have borrowed and some adaptures.
To do some testing on.
I really want to know before I purchase the FX9.
What was working well with the auto-focus.
I already owned a bunch of Canon glass,
a bunch of EF mount glass.
And I wasn't sure if I wanted to invest
in a bunch more of E-mount Sony glass.
And to see.
Is it just the Sony lenses that were working
with the auto-focus really well?
I heard that a lot of lenses were working
and adaptures working and obviously that the Sony glass
was working better than some of the other companies.
So lets do some testing now.
I got my buddy Jonah here.
And we're gonna do some testing.
Just some simple stuff.
It's just with him.
I don't have some other people around with
me to do some testing with.
But I can say I have done some testing with this lens.
Not testing, actually using it
in some real work environments.
Where I had a group of people behind the subject,
something like that.
And it really worked well to hold onto somebody's face
and to tract towards the camera.
Sometimes in large crowds,
where I was shooting a bunch of people
walking towards the camera, and there was feet.
The auto-focus got a bit confused.
But you can do somethings in the camera.
So you can set it,
so you can turn the auto-focus on and off really quickly.
Or you can assign one of the buttons of this lens
so you can pop it back.
So you could be jumping back between the two.
But right now we're just gonna be testing to see how well
the face recognition and the auto-focus works.
So the first lens we're testing is this Sony 28-135 F4.
This is a great documentary lens,
great kind of run and gun lens.
So Jonah I'm gonna get you to go behind.
That's little.
Shed here, round the corner there.
And, Jonah make your way back out.
Let's see how well it...
There we go, finds his face.
He's gonna keep walking towards the camera, and
yup it's working pretty well there.
You can see when it has this box around it
and it has the yellow line below it.
If you pull on that and you kind of click on it.
You get to double box around the face.
That means it's just trying,
you're just telling it to just focus on that face.
So if you have a group of people around
and it's picking on a face.
It gonna try to stay on that face for the auto-focus.
So obviously these Sony lenses are working pretty well.
And they are designed to work with the auto-focus.
Jonah I'm gonna get you to go further back as well.
And there, Its picked up on the auto-focus.
And that was pretty damn quick.
So we're gonna get him to go even further back
and I'm gonna and zoom in on the lens.
Let's see where it recognizes his face here.
So Jonah start coming towards the camera.
Looking up, there you go.
Pretty quick, early on it lost it there for a second.
Back on his face still.
He's coming towards camera.
This is pretty good.
Stop there for just a second Jonah.
Here we go.
And you can see here if I'm going off him.
I'm gonna zoom out here a bit.
I can go over somewhere else.
Still tracking his face here.
That's gonna go auto-focus on the background there.
And in the auto-focus back onto
his face.
So let's try this again with a faster lens.
I don't have a lot of native Sony lenses.
So this test I'm gonna be doing next is on there 50mm.
It's kind of there budget friendly 50mm, the 1.8.
I'm gonna see how well that works on this.
Got this funny little lens now the 50mm 1.8,
on the front of the camera here.
Looks a little bit ridiculous on this camera.
But let's do some tests with this.
So Jonah I'm gonna get you to go a bit further back.
You're gonna look straight up at the camera.
And walk in.
Now see that's caught into his face here.
And for about there, and stop there Jonah.
Okay, and then your just gonna get rocking a little bit
back and forth a bit.
Your body and moving forward, backwards.
And this kind of a scenario, you know when somebody is...
If you're doing an interview like this and you...
One of the situations where I really want
the auto-focus to work.
And that's one of the reasons
why i got this camera with the auto-focus.
Or why I purchased this camera that has auto-focus in it.
And one of the big appealing things for me with this camera
was doing interviews by myself, doing interviews
when I'm out by myself or with maybe one assistant.
And not having to always be looking at the mount
to be able to trust auto-focus.
We trust face recognition,
auto-focus and shoot on our lens this wide open.
So as I expected this lens is working very well.
It's fast, you don't really hear anything from the lens.
Doesn't seem like a lot of hunting.
It works well.
Jonah we're gonna get you to go on the corner
we're gonna try that shot there.
And that caught on pretty quick.
Nice, okay so the next test we're gonna do is actually
with the, a Metabones adapture.
It's one of the newer walking Metabones adaptures.
With the Metabones adaptures and doing some other tests
earlier, whatever we learnt is that
you need to be able to upgrade to the latest firmware.
It seems that some of the newer Metabones have this built-in
already or come with the newest firmware.
I have a really old Metabones adapture
that I don't even know
if I could update it for the newest firmware.
So I'm using a friend's Metabones adapture now.
And we're gonna try it out with some Canon glass.
So the next lens we have on here is the Canon 16-35 F4
which has (mumbles)
built into it.
It's an awesome lens.
So we're using this with a Metabones adapture.
And let's see here,
Jonah let's get you walking towards camera a bit.
So face recognition is working with this,
with this Metabones adapture.
Doesn't seem...
Maybe you could walk in a bit closer there Jonah.
How sharp it is on the face?
How quick this is working?
If it's hunting a bit?
It seems like it's hunting a bit more than the...
Definitely the Sony glass.
Let's, yeah it could have gone off the face there.
It's kind of slow on...
Right now its says it's on the face.
So there is definitely, the focus is not off.
Maybe you're a bit too close Jonah,
go back a bit.
The, how close this lens can focus.
Now we're still having problems there getting
a sharp on your face.
The auto-focus, it's like it's recognizing his face
but the auto-focus actually isn't working.
It's not focusing, so this is pretty interesting.
It's, this is not ideal.
This is something in this situation...
There, it's kind of coming in now.
You couldn't use, I mean I wouldn't trust this to use
on an interview that way.
It's pulled to back there but,
definitely not that quick.
Jonah we're gonna get you to go down the corner there.
Well its pulling the face, and stop there.
Rock a little bit towards the camera a bit.
Yeah, the focus is coming off and it's coming back on again.
Not totally ideal, definitely not ideal for using.
Let's try this with the Canon 7200
see if there is any differences that way.
So now I have on the pretty, very popular
Canon 7200 2.8 and we're gonna do some testing with this.
As you see actually right of the back, i haven't
I haven't set on auto-focus, but it sees Jonah's face.
Its not pulling focus on his face.
I mean can I manually pull the focus back there.
Yeah, let's see you Jonah.
Let's walk back a bit.
Even the focus like this, the Sony lens is...
Just when I go in the backwards of that
it is way quicker.
And maybe it's getting confused by...
Auto-focus off, no it's still not.
Auto-focus is off now.
It should pull the focus from here.
I mean it has the blocked around here the window to say
this is my region that's in focus.
I can change that to a different spot.
To a spot, to wide.
And it's still not coming on.
So Jonah I'm gonna get you to walk towards the camera.
No, it's not even, it's not working.
I'm gonna test this again, do that test again
because I turned off the face recognition there.
So face priority is on now.
Jonah go back.
So face priority is on.
Jonah walk towards the camera.
And, is it gonna pick up his face?
There, its got his face.
Is it pulling focus on him?
Not really, it's not working great at all.
Stop there Jonah.
Alright, let's try this with face priority off.
So it should just be a region.
So let's do a take.
Jonah stop there, come back.
I'm gonna do a flexible spot.
So I'm gonna put the spot on Jonah and see,
Is that working now?
No that's not even pulling focus down with the spot focus.
With these lenses so,
this is not ideal.
This is not ideal,I would say the Canon lens
with the Metabones adapture
from the test I'm doing now, I would not use this.
I would not be able to trust this.
It's kind of working a little bit
but most of the time it's not working.
So definitely a no-go Canon lenses on the Metabones
in my opinion with the Sony FX9.
Okay, so this next test now is on my lenses.
On my favorite lenses.
We have the Sigma art series lenses and the zoom ones and
this is with the 24-70.
This is using the Sigmas, they call it the ...
What do they call this adapture?
They call this the MC 11.
This is what I've been using.
I've having a lot of luck with this.
This is a friend of mine's native E-mount Sigma lens.
The same lens but it's in E-mount.
So you could see the flange going down.
This is where the adapture on here.
It's actually quite a bit small.
This is an interesting thing
I hadn't seen this lenses side-by-side
until I grabbed this from my friend today to test out.
And the E-mount ones are quite a bit smaller
even tho it's a you know...
Optically they should be the same lens.
It should be, it's about 2.8, they're both 24-70.
Yeah, they are very similar that way.
But there very difference in size and an even bigger deal
I'll show you this, okay.
So bigger deal is this is the
Canon EF mount Sigma 14-24 lens
at 2.8. It's large and big.
This is the same lens in the E-mount.
So you can see how much smaller it is.
How big smaller the front of the lenses are.
This is crazy, this is like way lighter.
I almost wish I had gone for the E-mount now
because just for lightness in a bag,
when I'm hiking into a location.
This would really help,
it's quite a bit lighter than this lens.
And the reason I went for the EF mount for the Sigma lenses
is that it could really be more versatile for me.
So if I want to use it on my Blackmagic Pocket camera.
Using EF mount is easier,
if I want to adapt to another camera,
if I wanna use it on a Red,
or rent another camera,
rent an Osmo mini again.
Then they all have an EF mount.
So having a less that I can use on multiple cameras
not just on my FX9, is why I went with the EF mount
and I wanted to make sure and see if the focus is as quick
on the, using the Sigma adapture with the EF mount
or using a native E-mount lens,
one of the Sigma art series E-mount native lenses.
Let's do some tests.
So this is a Sigma 24-70,
2.8 with the Sigma adapture onto the camera.
Let's test out the auto-focus.
Looking good so far.
Jonah let's get you to go around the corner here.
And I'm gonna change my focus area here
starting to being wide.
But it's still on face priority.
And Jonah come back around the corner.
Pulling on him fast,and
that's a bit close Jonah
but there we go.
Nice, this is working very well.
Now rock back and forth Jonah.
I mean this is definitely working way better
than the Canon lenses with the Metabones adapture.
What I have noticed with this lenses is that
they make quite a bit of noise.
I'm gonna see if I can pick this up with the mick here.
This is how you get the beam right in your shot.
This is how you're not supposed to place a Boom
when you're doing stuff, not like this.
Let's see if we can hear the sound of these lens here.
So Jonah, walking back and forth.
Move back further Jonah.
Walk back and look at the lens again.
And then walk forward.
We'll definitely be able to hear that ticking of the lens.
It's kind of a ticking sound coming from the lens there.
Go back again Jonah.
Okay. So you could here that ticking sound.
That's what I've noticed
when you're using an adapture with those lens.
And I did some other testing at the DV shop in Toronto
with the native E-mount Sigma lenses.
I was not getting that sound.
So there is a bit...
It's not a big, I don't think the camera can pick it up.
I don't think the camera mic can pick it up.
It's more when you have your head and you're shoulder mount
and you can definitely hear it clicking.
I don't know if it can really cause any issues,
but maybe it's a sound of it not working as smoothly
as the E-mount native lenses.
Walk towards camera.
Okay, now I have on the same lens but in the E-mount,
the Sony E-mount, the Sigma art series 24-70, at 2.8.
Jonah let's get you to go back a little further.
Let's go zoom in a bit.
Walk towards camera.
Where is it?
Picking up your face there.
And walking a bit more Jonah, stopping there.
And you kind of rocking around Jonah.
And with this one there is no sound.
There is none of the audible clicking,
none of that sound from this.
I don't know if I can really notice if it's smooth or not.
I rather do some of the working on this on the computer
to see which one looks smoother.
If it's the EF with the adapture
or if it's the native E-mount, but
they're definitely both working awesome.
Jonah get you go around the corner and come back.
Yeah, that picked it up right away really well.
Awesome. So I'm back in the edit sweet.
Now I've been looking at the footage.
In the native 4k of the FX9 and i can definitely say
my hypothesis or what I was thinking
and what I was hoping is true.
That the Sony glass, the native Sony glass and Sony lenses
seem to be working the best.
But it's very close and I really couldn't see a difference
between that and the Sigma lenses with the Sigma native
E-mount and with the adapture doing
from the EF mount to the E-mount.
I couldn't see a difference.
The speed of them was both great,
they both work awesome.
But the Canon glass on the Metabones, at least the Metabones
that I was using, which is a brand new Metabones adapture
definitely in my opinion is not usable.
I can't really trust that auto-focus to work that way.
FaceNet recognition does not work with it.
From what I can see,
maybe that will change in a future update to it.
Who knows? But the Sima glass is working.
And this is great for me because I have invested
in a bunch of more art series lenses.
I'm gonna be doing a later video,
talking about the set of zooms I've got from Sigma.
Why I choose those over other pieces of glass?
But thank you for taking the time to watch this video.
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what you thought was working best,
what you think is working best,
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