>>> THE OTHER TOP STORY TONIGHT, DONALD TRUMP TAKING AWAY SPEAKER
PELOSI’S AIRPLANE, TRUMP TELLING
HER, HE’S POSTPONING HIS TRIP ON
A MILITARY JET SCHEDULED FOR
BRUSSELS AND AFGHANISTAN BECAUSE
OF THE SHUTDOWN AND ADDS SHE
COULD FLY COMMERCIAL IF SHE
WANTS OR NOT INTO A WAR ZONE.
THIS IS A RESPONSE TO PELOSI,
WHO SAID SHE WOULD RESCHEDULE
HIS STATE OF THE UNION.
NOW TODAY ALL OF THIS PETTINESS
BACK AND FORTH, MORE SHADE AT
THE MAN ACCUSED OF OFTEN
STIFFING HIS OWN EMPLOYEES.
>> I’M NOT DENYING.
WE SAID LET’S GET A DATE WHEN
GOVERNMENT IS OPEN.
LET’S PAY THE EMPLOYEES.
MAYBE HE THINKS IT IS OKAY NOT
TO PAY PEOPLE WHO DO WORK.
I DON’T.
I DON’T. AND MY CAUCUS DOESN’T EITHER.
>> TRUMP TELLS AIDES, THAT,
QUOTE, WE’RE GETTING CRUSHED ON
THIS SHUTDOWN.
THIS SHUTDOWN. THE POLLS SHOW THAT.
TRUMP’S OVERALL APPROVAL RATING
IS NOW DOWN 7 POINTS IN THE PAST
MONTH.
MONTH. EVEN WORSE WITH HIS BASE.
10 POINTS DOWN AMONG
REPUBLICANS.
REPUBLICANS. AND SEVEN AMONG WHITE MEN
WITHOUT COLLEGE DEGREES.
AND DOWN 18 POINTS AMONG
SUBURBAN MEN AND ANOTHER 24
POINTS AMONG WHITE WOMEN WITHOUT
COLLEGE DEGREES.
COLLEGE DEGREES. GALLOP NOTES DONALD TRUMP IS THE
FIRST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY TO
NEVER REACH ANY MAJORITY
APPROVAL.
APPROVAL. NOT FOR A SINGLE DAY DURING HIS
FIRST TWO YEARS IN OFFICE.
WITH ME NOW, FORMER U.S. SENATOR
ROBERT TORS ELLY SERVING DURING
1996, THAT IS THE LONGEST, AND
THAT IS A TRUMP RECORD.
AND FORD UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR
CHRISTINA GREER JOINS ME AS
WELL.
WELL. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF WHAT I
THINK YOU HAVE TO ADMIT EVEN
THOUGH I KNOW THAT YOU ARE
SUPPORTIVE OF SOME OF WHAT
SPEAKER PELOSI DOES, WHAT DO YOU
THINK OF THIS INCREASINGLY PETTY
PART OF THE SPAT?
>> IS IT PETTY?
>> YES, IT’S PETTY.
>> WELL, I DON’T KNOW.
I THINK NANCY PELOSI IS TRYING
TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT WE’VE
GOT 800,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES TO
SAY NOTHING OF THE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF OTHER AMERICANS WHO
ARE OUT OF WORK BECAUSE OF THE
SHUTDOWN.
SHUTDOWN. AND THIS PRESIDENT NEEDS TO READ
THE CONSTITUTION AND IN WHICH IT
SAID HE MUST PRESENT TO THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC HIS AGENDA BUT
SHE’S SAYING, FOR EITHER
NATIONAL SECURITY REASONS OR THE
FACT THAT WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE
OF A SHUTDOWN, HE NEEDS TO
EITHER WRAP THIS UP, TALK TO
MITCH McCONNELL, SINCE MITCH
McCONNELL COULD END THE SHUTDOWN
IF HE WANTED TO.
>> OR HE COULD HOLD VOTES.
>> HE COULD DO HIS JOB, HOW
ABOUT THAT, THAT WE ARE PAYING
HIM TO DO.
I DON’T THINK IT IS PETTY.
I THINK IT IS PART OF A MUCH
MORE LARGER CONVERSATION NANCY
PELOSI IS TRYING TO FORCE THE
PRESIDENT TO HAVE SINCE HE
DIDN’T GET HIS MONEY FOR HIS
WALL WHEN HE HAD TWO YEARS OF
UNIFIED GOVERNMENT.
UNIFIED GOVERNMENT. >> SENATOR, WHEN YOU SERVED IN
THE SENATE, THERE WOULD BE VOTES
FROM TIME TO TIME ON THE MATTERS
TO REOPEN THE GOVERNMENT?
>> WHAT I DON’T UNDERSTAND ABOUT
THIS IS WHY NO ONE IS COMING UP
WITH CREATIVE IDEAS.
I’VE SEEN THESE KIND OF
INTRACTABLE PROBLEMS WITH REAGAN
AND SOCIAL SECURITY FUNDING AND
NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND GINGRICH
WHICH LED TO THE PREVIOUS
SHUTDOWN AND EVERYBODY IS TAKING
THEIR POSITIONS AND HARDENING
THEIR POSITIONS.
THEIR POSITIONS. >> IT IS GETTING HARSHER FOR
SURE.
SURE. >> AND SINCE IT IS NEVER GOING
TO COME FROM TRUMP, I AM KIND OF
SURPRISED THAT NANCY PELOSI AND
CHUCK ARE NOT THROWING OUT THEIR
MORE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO TRY
TO GET PAST THIS.
LEADERSHIP IS NOT GOING TO COME
FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> AND THE PRESSURE ON TRUMP
DOES APPEAR TO BE HAVING AN
IMPACT.
IMPACT. IT IS WIDESPREAD AS THE SHUTDOWN
GRINDS ON.
GRINDS ON. SENATOR, YOU REPRESENTED NEW
JERSEY.
JERSEY. I WANT TO PLAY SOMEONE WHO
REPRESENTS THE BRONX.
CARDI B. WEIGHING IN ON THIS
TRUMP SHUTDOWN.
TRUMP SHUTDOWN. TAKE A LOOK.
>> TRUMP IS NOW ORDERING AS IN
SUMMONING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
WORKERS TO GO BACK TO WORK
WITHOUT GETTING PAID.
OUR COUNTRY IS IN A HELL HOLE
RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. ALL FOR [ BLEEP ] WALL.
AND WE NEED TO TAKE THIS
SERIOUS.
SERIOUS. I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO TAKE SOME
ACTION.
ACTION. >> IS SHE RIGHT?
>> WELL OF COURSE I WOULD SAY
THE EXACT SAME THING.
>> THE SAME WAY?
>> THE SAME WAY.
SHE IS RIGHT THAT I THINK MOST
AMERICANS SITTING BACK RIGHT NOW
SAY THIS ISN’T JUST A PROBLEM
OVER AN ISSUE, IT IS A PROBLEM
OF THE GOVERNANCE OF THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. ONE THING THAT I THINK DONALD
TRUMP WILL UNDERSTAND WHY THESE
NUMBERS ARE FALLING IS MOST
AMERICANS DON’T LOOK TO THEIR
STREET BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT
FUNCTIONING, THERE IS THE
PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THE
GOVERNMENT FUNCTION.
GOVERNMENT FUNCTION. THEY DON’T LOOK AS YOU AND I
MIGHT WITH CO-EQUAL BRANCHES.
>> AND THAT GOES TO MITCH WHAT
YOU SAID EARLIER.
AND PUTTING ASIDE I’LL CANCEL
YOUR SPEECH AND I’LL CANCEL YOUR
PLANE AND WE’RE IN THE CANCEL
WARS.
WARS. HERE WE GO.
ONE OF THE STAR NEW MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS, CONGRESS WOMAN AOC AS
SHE’S CALLED IS OUT THERE
LEADING THE CHARGE.
>> FROM THE BRONX.
>> IT IS A BRONX NIGHT.
AND LEADING THE CHARGE AND
SAYING, LOOK THIS ISN’T JUST
DONALD TRUMP AGAIN.
THIS IS MITCH McCONNELL AND THE
DEMOCRATS ARGUING HE’S MIA AND
LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR
YOUR ANALYSIS.
YOUR ANALYSIS. HERE WE GO.
>> WE’RE HERE DOING OUR JOBS, WE
HAVE VOTED REPEATEDLY OVER AND
OVER AGAIN TO REOPEN THE
GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. HE’S NOT IN CLOAK ROOM OR IN THE
CAPITOL OR IN THE RUSSELL
BUILDING OR THE FLOOR OF THE
SENATE AND 800,000 PEOPLE DON’T
HAVE PAYCHECKS SO WHERE IS
MITCH?
MITCH? >> SHE’S DEMYSTIFYING THE
PROCESS FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
SO SO MANY AMERICANS ARE SAYING,
OKAY, IT IS THE PRESIDENT’S
FAULT.
FAULT. WHICH IT IS.
BUT MITCH McCONNELL IS REALLY
BEEN THE GATE KEEPER ON THIS.
SO WHAT -- WHAT CONGRESS WOMANO
CASIO CORTEZ IS SAYING, MITCH
McCONNELL, YOU COULD DO YOUR JOB
AND BRING YOUR COLLEAGUES TO THE
TABLE AND VOTE AND SO WE COULD
ACTUALLY JUMP START THE
GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. MITCH McCONNELL HASN’T DONE THAT
BECAUSE HE ALSO KNOWS THAT THE
VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DON’T
KNOW THAT IS WHAT HE’S SUPPOSED
TO DO.
TO DO. >> THAT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT
POINT AND THAT YOU HAVE NEW
BLOOD AND NEW MEMBERS AND ALL OF
THE ENERGY AND MORE OF THAT
LATER TONIGHT TELLING PEOPLE HOW
IT WORKS BECAUSE IF YOU ARE IN
CHARGE, WHY ARE YOU HIDING?
IF THIS VOTE WAS GOOD ENOUGH
BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN,
WHY ISN’T IT GOOD ENOUGH NOW AND
ARE YOU REALLY MAJORITY LEADER
IF YOU ARE NOT RUNNING THIS LIKE
CARDI SAID.
CARDI SAID. >> IT IS EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS
REALLY TRUMP’S PARTY.
THESE REPUBLICANS SENATORS KNOW
BETTER.
BETTER. THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH OF
PRIMARIES.
PRIMARIES. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF DONALD TRUMP ON
THIS.
THIS. >> AND THAT IS I THINK -- I SAID
SOMETHING THAT WE JUST AGREED
ABOUT THE PETTY THING BUT I
THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THE
SENATE DOES NOT REPORT TO THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. IT IS SUPPOSED TO HOLD ITS OWN
VOTES.
VOTES. AND AS THE GOVERNMENT STAYS
CLOSED, THAT IS GOING TO STAY
IMPORTANT AS PEOPLE SEE THAT.
I HAVE TO FIT IN A BREAK.