>>> STONE HAS BEEN A PLAYER IN POLITICS FOR YEARS.
THE GUY NEXT TO STONE IS LEE AT
WATER NOTORIOUS HATCHET MAN IN
POLITICS AND HE CAME UP WITH THE
WILLIE HORTON AD.
AND LOOK AS LITTLE DIFFERENT
NOW.
NOW. HIS NAME IS PAUL MANAFORT.
THESE GUYS WERE PARTNERS IN THE
’80s.
’80s. MANAFORT WAS ALSO IN FEDERAL
COURT BEFORE THE SAME JUDGE THAT
HAS THE STONE CASE.
A NICE WAY FOR THE TWO TO BE
REUNITED.
REUNITED. AND NONE OTHER THAN MANAFORT
HIMSELF WILL TELL YOU IN THE
DOCUMENTARY GET ME ROGER STONE.
>> DID ROGER RECOMMEND YOU FOR
THE JOB?
THE JOB? >> YES.
>> YES. >> HE CONTINUES TO BE A VERY
IMPORTANT ADVISOR AND IS UNTIL
THIS DAY.
THIS DAY. ROGER’S RELATIONSHIP WITH TRUMP
HAS BEEN SO INTERCONNECTED THAT
IT’S HARD TO DEFINE WHAT’S ROGER
AND WHAT’S DONALD.
IT WILL BE LEERCLEARLY A TRUMP
PRESIDENCY, I THINK IT’S
INFLUENCED BY A STONE
PHILOSOPHY.
PHILOSOPHY. >> YOU ENCOUNTERED ROGER STONE
AS A WATERGATE PROSECUTOR.
>> IT WAS SEPTEMBER 26TH, 1973.
I WAS INVESTIGATING AN INCIDENT
THAT OCCURRED ON MAY 3rd, 1972
ON THE CAPITOL HILL WHERE THE
WHITE HOUSE, UNDER CHARLES
COLSON WHO IS THE COUNSEL TO THE
PRESIDENT ORGANIZED AN EVENT TO
TRY AND NAME OR KILL THE
PUBLISHER OF THE PENTAGON
PAPERS.
PAPERS. AT LEAST ONE WITNESS TOLD ME HE
WAS INSTRUCTED BY TWO OF THE
OPERATIVES FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
AND THE COMMITTEE TO REELECT THE
PRESIDENT THAT THEY WOULD GO FOR
DANIEL ELS BERG AND TO MAIM OR
ILCAN HIM AND
KILL HIM AND THEY BROUGHT UP THE
SAME CUBAN AMERICAN CANS FROM
MIAMI WHO WERE THE SAME PEOPLE
WHO BROKE INTO THE WATERGATE
COMPLEX THREE WEEKS LATER.
STONE WAS A PART OF A
COUNTERDEMONSTRATION ON CAPITOL
HILL ALSO ORGANIZED BY COLSON,
THE COUNSEL TO THE PRESIDENT.
TO DEFLECT TENSION AWAY THRUM
CUBE CANNEN AMERICANS THEN GOING
TO A --
TO A -- >> THEY WERE LIKE THE SHINY HAND
OVER HERE.
OVER HERE. STONE WAS STAGING A
DEMONSTRATION SO THEY COULD RUSH
DANIEL --
DANIEL -- >> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. >> BUT YOU INTERVIEWED STONE
ABOUT HIS ROLE?
>> YES.
>> YES. >> DID HE KNOW?.
>> I DON’T THINK HE KNEW.
HE WAS SO JUNIOR.
IT USED TO BE A JOKE IN THE
OFFICE THAT I BROKE ROGER STONE.
>> TELL ME WHAT IS HIS ROLE.
HOW CENTRAL HAS HE BEEN IN
REPUBLICAN POLITICS.
REPUBLICAN POLITICS. I’M NOT SURE THAT’S QUITE THE
TRUTH.
TRUTH. SO THE THING HE WAS MOST FAMOUS
WAS WAS HE WAS BASICALLY
DRAFTED.
DRAFTED. SO HE WAS ONE OF THE HEALTHY
RIGHT-WING EXUBERANTS.
RIGHT-WING EXUBERANTS. AND HE WAS TOLD TO MAKE A
DONATION TO ONE OF THE
DEMOCRAT’S CAMPAIGN AND SEND THE
CANCELLED CHECK TO THE
MANCHESTER UNION LEADER FROM THE
GAY LIBERATION FRONT.
BUT HE WAS NERVOUS PEOPLE WOULD
THINK HE WAS GAY SO HE DID IT IN
THE NAME OF A SOCIALIST GROUP
INSTEAD.
INSTEAD. SO THIS CAME CAN OUT AND HE WAS
HAPPILY ENSCONCED IN THE
REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE
UNDER BOB DOLE AS A YOUTH
ORGANIZER AND HE WAS FIRED AND
THERE WAS A BIT OF PUBLICITY AND
FOUR YEARS LATER HERE HE IS
RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE
YOUNG REPUBLICANS, WHICH IS A
VERY IMPORTANT ORGANIZATION ON
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
PAUL MANAFORT IS HIS CAMPAIGN
MANAGER AND BASICALLY AT THE
CONVENTION PAUL MANAFORT BRINGS
ANG ORGANIZATION THAT LOOKS MORE
LIKE A PARTY CONVENTION.
THERE ARE TRADING VOTES FOR
FAVORS.
FAVORS. WE FOUND WALTER CHRONKRIET
SAYING WHAT HAS THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY BECOME AND HE WON.
AND THEN HE BECOMES, IN 1980
BECAUSE HE’S RISING UP THE
LADDER, HE’S ORGANIZING
BASICALLY THE WHOLE NORTHEAST
FOR REGAN’S NOMINATION CAMPAIGN
AND REGAN WINS THE NOMINATION
AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE’S GOING TO
BECOME PRESIDENT AND SO HE GETS
TOGETHER WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZER
OF THE REGAN CAMPAIGN AND A
THIRD GUY WHO’S STILL AROUND AND
SEEMS TO HAVE REMOVED HIMSELF
FROM ANY LEGAL TAINT.
AND THEY DECIDE THEY’RE GOING TO
FORM A LOBBYING FIRM IN WHICH
THEY’RE GOING TO LITERALLY SELL
THEIR ACCESS TO THE PRESIDENT
AND OF COURSE THEY BECOMEFAMOUS
BASICALLY DEFINING A NEW KIND OF
BOTTOM FEEDING LOBBYING IN WHICH
THEY’RE WILLING TO WORK FOR ANY
DICTATOR.
DICTATOR. >> HE’S SORT OF AN INOVATOR IN
THAT RESPECT.
THAT RESPECT. I WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION
BECAUSE THE NIXON FOUNDATION
TODAY TWEETED ABOUT THE FACT
ROGER STONE -- IT WAS A GROSS
MISSTATEMENT TO SAY HE WAS A
CAMPAIGN ADVISOR.
CAMPAIGN ADVISOR. HE WAS 16 DURING THE CAMPAIGN
AND 20 IN THE REELECT AND
NOWHERE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL
DIARIES IS THE NAME ROGER STONE.
NIXON FROM BEYOND -- AND TRYING
TO BE LIKE I DON’T KNOW ROGER
STONE.
STONE. >> AGAIN THEY USED PEOPLE LIKE
ROGER STONE TO DO ALL KINDS OF
LITTLE DIRTY TRICKS.
BUSINESS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, I
THINK THAT WAS WITH CONGRESSMAN
RUNNING AGAINST NIXON IN THE NEW
HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY.
HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. THEY TRIED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE
HE WAS TAKING MONEY FROM A
SOCIALIST AND USED ROGER STONE
TO DO THAT.
>> DISINFORMATION.
>> DISINFORMATION. GOT A GREAT QUOTE --
>> SO HE’S STILL KIND OF DOING
THIS.
THIS. HE’S CONNECTING HIMSELF TO THE
NEXT GEN RAUGZ ERATION.
I ORDERED A SOUVENIR ROGER STONE
T-SHIRT.
T-SHIRT. I PAID 30 BUCKS FOR THIS ROGER
STONE IS INNOCENT T-SHIRT AND I
DON’T RECOGNIZE IT.
IT’S FOR A SECURITY FIRM IN
MIAMI AND I SAY WHY DID I JUST
GET CHARGED FROM BURGLAR ALARM
COMPANY AND HE SAID DID YOU
ORDER PROUD BOY STUFF AND I SAID
NO, I ORDERED ROGER STONE
T-SHIRT.
T-SHIRT. WHO IS THE PROUD BOYS HE CLAIMS
TO ME AS WE CHAT FOR FIVE
MINUTES BECAUSE THESE GUYS HAVE
SUCH STRONG OPERATIONAL SECURITY
THAT ROGER IS A MEMBER OF THE
PROUD BOYS AND HAD LUNCH WITH
THEM ONLY THAT DAY TO STRAT