welcome to what's the crime i'm linda and today we're going to be talking about the
newest dateline episode that aired on friday march 26th in the lorry vallo
day bell and chad dabell case there was a lot of repeat information which is understandable
because it is such a crazy case and one has to understand the basics however in this video i'm
just going to give you the newest information and highlights in the episode but before i get
into it if you'd like to be part of the it's a crime community please click that subscribe
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in the beginning of the dateline show they talked about when lori met and married joseph ryan her
third husband annie cushing was on the show who is joseph's sister and tyler's aunt and
she talked a bit about joe and the relationship she said to see what he suffered was unimaginable
now joseph died in april of 2018 as a refresher annie didn't find out about her brother's death
until weeks later but laurie knew right away annie asked lori why didn't you tell me about joe dying
and she says well i didn't think you'd care lori also said to annie that the world is
a better place without joseph ryan she also mentioned and we've heard this before that lori
sometimes felt like just getting in a car and driving her kids off of a cliff now according
to reports joseph died of cardiovascular disease but joseph didn't get an autopsy done he just
had an external examination annie also said that laurie had a box of joseph's family photo albums
and she said that she entirely actually went to joseph's apartment and was let in by two
other police officers laurie also said that there were stacks and stacks of files in his apartment
now annie received photos from joseph's apartment from the day that joe died but in the pictures
there weren't any indications of stacks and stacks of files or a box of photo
albums and annie actually wondered if lori had gained access to joe's apartment before these
pictures were taken from the police now i'd love to know who the police officers were if any that
let her in and i did wonder in a previous video somebody was in the apartment beforehand because
there was an open window that was stated in one of the reports annie and i also discussed it in
a live stream i did have her on the show back in december i believe it was and i'll be sure to
put the link in the description below so you can check out that video i'll also have it linked at
the end of this video now annie also said in the dateline episode that there was an extra deadbolt
to joe's apartment and she said it seemed like this is a man living in fear now remember
alex had attacked joe with a stun gun and he even went to jail over it and with everything that was
going on i wouldn't doubt that joe had some sort of fear over alex especially because he wanted him
dead or it seemed like he wanted him dead and also with the accusations coming from laurie look what
happened to charles he literally said that laurie scares the crap out of him and he also said that
joe was a neat freak so she thought it was strange that everything was thrown about in the apartment
then they played the tape of lori saying she wanted to kill joe saying i was going to
murder him i was going to kill him and side note laurie likes to go and refer to the book of mormon
then twist the word so it can match her evil desires one of the things that hasn't been
clear in the past about joe was if there was any life insurance involved and in fact annie and i
had a conversation in the live stream that we had back in december and she said it was
still unclear at that time however annie did find out and talked about it on this dateline episode
and she said there was in fact life insurance and guess who the beneficiary was lori for up to 150
thousand dollars there was a video that i did on a woman named lida southard and she was actually
the first female serial killer in the state of idaho her story eerily parallels lorries
right down to getting arrested in hawaii and lyda would actually poison her husbands with arsenic
riddled fly paper it's a really interesting story lida had so many husbands just like lori i would
highly recommend it and you can check that out also in the description below now back to dateline
there were highly experienced mental health professionals on the show as well their names
are tom ware and vivian lewis they were actually assigned to help court decide on custody of tylie
back when there's that custody battle over her now tom says this was just an awful awful case
and he says she was on a mission meaning laurie and vivian says i'll be point blank frank it's
very hard to remove a child from a mother and yes there are children who need to be removed
from their mother's care she said she was the mastermind behind the whole thing lori absolutely
matches much of the criteria for an offending falsely accusing mother now they did talk a little
bit about how they didn't believe that allegations that were made by lori towards joseph ryan had
any credibility they said they believe that they were absurd allegations and when lori found out
that they didn't believe her allegations she said this if this doesn't come out the way i want it to
i'm taking the kids to mexico side note one of the things that we see over and over is if lori
doesn't get her weight lori has a bit of a fit and the manipulations arise people get hurt and things
get stolen and i'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg now in that dateline episode they talked
about how lori believed tiley was a reincarnation of laurie's sister stacy lynn cope who is melanie
polowski's mom and it also said how lori's past lawyer who by the way is now dead he came to her
at night and spoke to her i was trying to remember what his name was i have it somewhere in my
thousands of pages of scripting but if you know that offhand can you please let me know that in
the comments below i was trying to find it and i'm hoping you guys might remember thank you so much
in advance now vivian said that when she looks back she sees delusion when it comes to lori and
lori told also another therapist that death would be an option before giving tyler to her father
even for a visit days after alex then attacked joseph with that stun gun i see a little pattern
here vivian also said something that really makes you think she said i mean when you think about it
the children could be alive today had this gone just a little differently 13 or 14 years ago and
we do know that laurie did whatever she could to keep tyler away from joe she moved to texas from
arizona joe followed them to arizona and moved there to be close to tyler and in the episode it
was said that laurie was actually charged with judicial interference she then moved to hawaii
now both charles's ex-wives were also on the show his first wife kimberly talked about charles and
she also mentioned there that charles once fiddled with a gun and accidentally it went off and she
said it just missed her head by inches it seemed in the show that this was kind of an incident that
ended their relationship that could be just my take on it but i've seen previous clips where she
said that charles was with another woman while she was married so it didn't make that too clear in
that episode but they did talk about that she also talked about charles and lori and she said and i
quote he knew that his demise was going to come in the form of this bubbly blonde in yoga pants
he knew that then it showed charles second wife cheryl who was married to charles and i believe
it was for around 12 years now something that was new was that cheryl and charles actually adopted
charles's nephew and then they had a son together i didn't know that detail this was new to me and
i thought it was interesting because charles later adopted jj who is his grandnephew or great nephew
it's k woodcock's grandson and k is charles's sister melanie gibb was also on this dateline
episode we did see a lot i think it was all of it really is the same information in this segment
as it was in the past episode now she talked about how lori was attracted to chad spiritually
and laurie and chad also believe that they were the ones to lead the 144 thousand melanie said
in there they were in charge of this group and they would find couples or people to fulfill this
calling now there was one point in the episode that made me chuckle a little bit because
keith actually said chad and laurie decided to sneak into the lds church and he said they did a
do it yourself ceiling ceremony so i kind of love that keith was given a job saying a do-it-yourself
ceiling you're not supposed to do that at all and um it's more breaking the rules for lori and chad
it seems like no rules apply when it comes to them oh and chad was also married to tammy now
taylor larson who's charles lawyer was on as well he talked about how lori stole that 35 000
and i believe that was back in january of february before charles died
and charles wanted a protection order to protect jj and it was said that he thought maybe laurie
was brainwashing tiley taylor said charles told him if anything happens to me know that lori and
alex did it laurie would be the instigator but it would be at the hands of alex and look what
we saw happen now tammy's sister samantha was on with her husband jason and it wasn't any crazy
revelations in this episode i thought there would be a lot more but samantha described tammy as she
said she was a real person she was an amazing brilliant person that died too soon and tammy's
brother-in-law jason samantha's husband he talked about chad and he said he looked up to him and
even called him a mentor of sorts and in early october before tammy died chad had encouraged
tammy to go see her family and they said it was unusual that chad didn't come with her she
decided to come on her own and chad said he had to work because he was so busy samantha did say that
she had a really great time with tammy she said it was like we were kids again and not in our 40s i'm
glad they had that time together before she passed away it seems like they were really close now one
interesting thing is is there was no mention of her saying that tammy was unhealthy and that's
important she then talks about the call from chad when tammy died and she said i got a phone call
from chad telling me that she had passed away in her sleep keith asks how do you process something
like that samantha says you don't she says i mean like there's just so many thoughts running through
your head and a lot of it was like no that that didn't happen keith says what did chad
say happened and samantha says that she'd been sick and had a coughing fit and passed away when
tammy died she was 49 years old and according to samantha she was pretty healthy in fact perfectly
healthy keith says were you surprised to discover there had been no autopsy jason says you know the
question had been asked by my wife to chad on saturday when she passed and his response was
well she's already over at the mortician they said there was no need to have an autopsy good thing
for chad at the time isn't it although he wasn't too bright telling different stories because
just like lori because chad says she had a coughing fit and then told melanie gibb that
tammy had heart issues and her body was failing her meanwhile chad's sending tammy to go see her
sister two weeks before she died same time by the way that lori buys their wedding rings and
the wedding attire and beachwear and when it came time to talking about the kids all samantha said
was who does that to children who does that now there's a video that i'm going to be posting soon
about something that i came across and found yet another pattern something that i do believe is a
very dark secret between chad and lori and one that potentially can connect all their deaths
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because i'm gonna have that video for you and it's quite interesting so be on the lookout and
if you haven't done so already please check out two other videos that's important to see is the
secret society video and their coded email as well i will have that in the description below now one
of the lines that was in the episode was actually something that lori had said and it really does
fit her it was when she was in a pageant and she said being a good mom is very important and a
good wife and a good worker and being all those things aren't easy so i'm basically a ticking
time bomb and then laughs as she usually does and to me she's so much more than that time will tell
and for me i feel like i only have five more months to keep exposing what's really going on
i feel like even after a hundred plus videos i'm only scratching the surface so i can't stop until
justice is served let me know your thoughts about the newest information are you disappointed that
there wasn't more information in this episode i i did think that there would be more in this
segment with tammy's sister what do you think let me know please subscribe if you haven't
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