ACN ANOTHER BILL. TO PASS A NATIONAL COB CONCEAL
AND CARRY LAW. AND JOINING ME NOW A SENATOR
WORKING TO BAN BUMP STOCKS. AND CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU FOR
JOINING ME. >> GOOD EVENING FROM OUTSIDE OF
THE HOUSE CHAMBER. >> I WAS JUST THERE.
HAD A CONVERSATION WITH STEVE SCALISE AND SO GOOD TO HAVE HIM
BACK AROUND THE HOUSE. LET ME ASK YOU, DO YOU WANT THIS
TO BE SOMETHING WE VOTE ON IN CONGRESS, OR DO YOU THINK IT IS
JUST FINE IF ATF DECIDES TO REGULATE BUMP STOCKS OUT OF THE
LAW. >> NO, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT
THIS PROHIBITION, THIS BAN ON THESE BUMP STOCK SHOULD BE
CODIFIED. I THINK WE NEED TO SEND A STRONG
MESSAGE, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS TOGETHER, WHICH IS WHY
OUR LEGISLATION FILING TOGETHER WITH SETH MOULTON, A DEMOCRAT
FROM MASSACHUSETTS, IS GOING TO BE NOT JUST BIPARTISAN, BUT
PERFECTLY BIPARTISAN. WE WANT TO HAVE AN EQUAL NUMBER
OF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ON IT.
WE THINK WE NEED TO SEND A STRONG MESSAGE THAT, YES, WE ARE
WILLING TO STAND UP AND RESPOND TO THIS OBVIOUS AND FLAGRANT
CIRCUMVENTION OF EXISTING LAW. AS YOU SAID EARLIER, THESE
WEAPONS ARE ILLEGAL. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE OR
FIRE AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON. THESE DEVICED TURN LEGAL WEAPONS
INTO ILLEGAL WEAPONS AN THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO STOP.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS FEAR ON CAPITOL HILL OF HOLDING
ANY VOTE ON ANY GUN REGULATION? >> I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THIS
IS GOING TO PLAY OUT. I WILL TELL YOU THIS, CHUCK, MY
OFFICE HAS BEEN FLOODED BY CALLS FROM FELLOW REPUBLICAN HOUSE
MEMBERS WHO ARE ANXIOUS TO GET ON THE BILL.
THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE FILING IT TODAY.
THEY WANTED TO BE ON IT IMMEDIATELY.
WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO END UP FILING IT TOMORROW SO THERE IS
DEFINITELY MOMENTUM HERE. AND I THINK OUR LEADERS ARE
ALREADY RESPONDING TO THAT GROWING MOMENTUM INSIDE OF THE
HOUSE REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY --
CONGRESSMAN SCALISE TO ME AND YOU HEARD IT IN THE CLIP, HE IS
CONCERNED ABOUT THE SLIPPERY SLOPE AND HE EVEN SAID, HEY,
MINORITY LEADER PELOSI SAID SHE DOESN'T WANT TO STOP HERE.
IF THE ARGUMENT IS MADE THAT VOTING TO BAN THIS, IS THE
BEGINNING OF A SLIPPERY SLOPE. WILL THAT DOOM YOUR BILL.
>> STEVE SPEAKS WITH A LOT OF MORAL AUTHORITY ON THIS ISSUE
BECAUSE HE IS A VICTIM OF GUN VIOLENCE AND WE'RE SO THRILLED
TO HAVE HIM BACK. HE'S A WONDERFUL COLLEAGUE AND
FRIEND AND LEGISLATOR. BUT I THINK ON THIS ONE, HE'S
GOT IT WRONG. WE REALLY HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT
THING. THIS IS NOT ABOUT A SLIPPERY
SLOPE. WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEAS
ABOUT WHAT GUN POLICIES SHOULD LOOK LIKE IN THIS COUNTRY.
BUT WE SHOULD TAKE THIS CASE, IT IS OBVIOUS THAT OUR LAWS FAILED
IN THIS CASE, AND WE SHOULD DO THE RIGHT THING.
AND NO, PASSING THIS LAW OR HAVING THIS LAW BUT IN EFFECT
BEFORE, IT MAYBE WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED THE TRAGEDY BUT COULD
HAVE MITIGATED IT. MAYBE FEWER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE
DIED, FEWER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN WOUNDED.
THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. >> AND WHAT HAPPENS TO SOMEBODY
WHO ALREADY OWNS ONE OF THESE, IF YOUR LAW PASSES.
>> OUR GOAL IS TO PROHIBIT THESE.
I AM NOT A FAN OF GRANDFATHERING SUCH A DEADLY DEVICE THAT CAN BE
USED TO MASSACRE DOZENS OF PEOPLE AS WE SAW LAST WEEKEND.
SO IN MY VIEW, THE BILL HASN'T BEEN FILED YET, BUT IN MY VIEW
THERE SHOULD BE NO GRANDFATHERING THESE DEVICES
SHOULD BE PROHIBITED. NO TRANSACTIONS, NO POSSESSION,
AND NONE OF THE ABOVE. >> CONGRESSMAN, IT IS YOUR BILL.
YOU SAY THAT YOU HAVEN'T FILED YET.
IS SOMETHING ARGUING FOR A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.
>> I DO HAVE A CO-SPONSOR, A SPONSOR I'M WORKING WITH, SETH
MOULTON AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK WITHOUT CONSULTING HIM BUT
I'M PRETTY SURE I SHALL -- HE WOULD BE FINE WITH EVERYTHING I
TOLD YOU. >> SO IF IT IS NOT
GRANDFATHERED, IN HOW DO YOU GET RID OF THE ONES OUT THERE.
I'M HAD SOME PEOPLE E-MAIL ME CONCERNED THAT WHILE WE DEBATE
THIS, GIVING A HIGH PROFILE TO THIS ACCESSORY, WILL ACTUALLY
CREATE A RUN OF PEOPLE BUYING THIS ACCESSORY.
HOW DO WE GET IT OFF THE STREET. >> I THINK THAT IS ALREADY
HAPPENED, CHUCK. I'VE HEARD THAT HUNLDS IF NOT
THOUSANDS HAVE BEEN SOLD IN RECENT DAYS.
WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT TO ATF.
CONGRESS PASSES LAWS AND IT IS UP TO THE AGENCIES TO IMPLEMENT
THEM AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACTUALLY CARRY OUT THE LAWS.
BUT WE WANT TO SEND A STRONG MESSAGE THAT WE RESPECT EXISTING
LAW. THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO
AUTOMATIC WEAPONS OUT THERE. AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT
THESE DEVICES TURNED LEGAL WEAPONS INTO ILLEGAL WEAPONS.
SEMI AUTOMATIC AND AUTOMATIC AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
>> WHAT ELSE DO YOU THINK -- THAT CONGRESS SHOULD LOOK AT IN
ORDER TO APPARENTLY -- FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S ROLE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO KEEP THE
UNITED STATES FROM BEING THE LEADER OF THE WORLD WHEN IT
COMES TO GUN MASSACRES. >> I THINK THERE IS CERTAINLY A
ROLE, CHUCK. AND I THINK THERE IS ROOM FOR
BOTH STRENGTHENING AND RESPECTING RIGHTS AND
RESTRICTING THE RIGHTS JUST LIKE WE RESTRICT FREE SPEECH AND ALL
SORTS OF OTHER RIGHTS THAT AMERICANS ARE GUARANTEED BY THE
CONGRESS AND LAST CONGRESS SETH SETH MOULTON AND I INTRODUCED
ANOTHER PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT HAD IT BEEN IF EFFECT
BEFORE THE PULSE NIGHTCLUB TRAGEDY COULD HAVE PREVENTED
THAT. PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN UNDER FBI
INVESTIGATION FOR TIES TO TERRORISM WITHIN THE LAST FIVE
YEARS, ALLOWING THE GOVERNMENT SOME TIME TO BLOCK THE SALE OF A
FIREARM, OF COURSE GUARANTEEING THAT PERSON DUE PROCESS, THE
POSSIBILITY OF GOING TO COURT. SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF
SENSIBLE IDEAS THAT DO NOT THREATEN AMERICAN SECOND
AMENDMENT RIGHTS BUT THAT WILL HELP KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFE AND
THAT IS THE SWEET SPOT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
THIS IS A SMALL STEP AND WE IMAGINE MANAGED TO GET THIS DONE
BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE DISCOUNTED. IT WILL BE
SIGNIFICANT. IT WILL BE THE FIRST TIME IN
DECADES THAT REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS WORK TOGETHER IN FAVOR
OF SENSIBLE GUN POLICY IN THIS COUNTRY.
>> BUT YOU WILL WORK TOGETHER TO CODIFY SOMETHING THAT WAS
ALREADY IN LAW. A BAN ON AUTOMATIC WEAPONS.
>> WELL, ACCEPT THAT THESE DEVICES ARE CURRENTLY LEGAL AND
PEOPLE ARE PURCHASING THEM ON THE INTERNET FOR AS LITTLE AS
$99. IT IS A LOP HOLE IN THE LAW AND
WE ARE CLOSING A LOOPHOLE BUT WE ARE TRYING TO END THAT