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>>> WE
>>> WE HAVE A NEW BOOK SLAYING GOLIATH WRITTEN BY DIANE
RAVITCH.
RAVITCH.
RAVITCH. IF YOU LIKE THESE EFFORTS TO
PRIVATIZE ARE THE ENEMY OF A
GOOD PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND BETSY DEVOS
AND ALONG WITH THE BILLIONAIRES
ARE INTENT ON PRIVATIZING
SCHOOLS.
SCHOOLS.
SCHOOLS. TONIGHT YOU WILL HEAR TRUMP
CALL FOR VOUCHERS
>> IN THE STATE OF THE UNION.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. HE AND BETSY DEVOS HAVE KEPT UP
THIS DRUMBEAT.
THIS DRUMBEAT. SHE WILL GET $440 MILLION OF
OUR FEDERAL TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO
START NEW CHARTER SCHOOLS AND
THE FAMILIES WILL ADD ANOTHER
$200 MILLION.
$200 MILLION. ONCE THEY ARE STARTED THE COST
OF THEM IS PASSED ON TO THE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAVE LESS
MONEY TO SPEND.
>> THE POINT.
>> IF I AM A PARENT AND I'M
SITTING AT HOME SAYING I WANT
SOME CHOICE.
SOME CHOICE. I WANT TO MAYBE SEND MY CHILD
TO A FAITH-BASED SCHOOL.
I WANT WHAT THEY ARE OFFERING
AT A CHARTER SCHOOL.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THEM
ABOUT WHY THAT IS NOT SOMETHING
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHOOSE.
>> I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE
ABLE TO CHOOSE WHATEVER THEY
WANT BUT THE QUESTION IS SHOULD
BE PAID FOR BY THE PUBLIC.
IF YOU WANT YOUR CHILD TO GO TO
A RELIGIOUS SCHOOL THAT IS IT
WAS BUT YOU SHOULD PAY FOR IT.
IF YOU SAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT
SHOULD PAY FOR YOUR CHOICE OF A
RELIGIOUS SCHOOL I DISAGREE.
THE SUPREME COURT MAY SOON
DECIDE THAT AND WIPE OUT THE
LINE BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE
UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE ONE OF THE
GREAT THINGS ABOUT AMERICA HAS
BEEN A UNIVERSAL FREE PUBLIC
EDUCATION SYSTEM.
EDUCATION SYSTEM. SADLY TODAY WE ARE NOT
INVESTING IN OUR CHILDREN.
THAT IS TRUE ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY
WEALTHIER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND
THOSE THAT ARE REALLY STRAPPED
AND AS THIS MONEY COMES OUT IN
THE VOUCHERS OR OTHER THINGS.
THOSE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE EVEN
WORSE OFF THAN THEY ARE AT THIS
POINT.
POINT.
POINT. THAT IS ALSO YOUR CONCERN?
>> MY CONCERN IS THAT THE
AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE FOR
PUBLIC EDUCATION IS -- THINK OF
IT AS ONE PIE.
THE LEGISLATURES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY ARE NOT INCREASING THE
SIZE THE PIE THEY ARE SIMPLY
DIVIDING IT UP MORE SAYING WE
WILL SET ASIDE MORE MONEY FOR
CHARTERS AND THERE IS MORE
SEGREGATION IN CHARTERS.
THERE'S NOT BETTER ACHIEVEMENT
IN CHARTERS.
IN CHARTERS. I WOULD SAY TO THE PARENT THAT
IS CONSIDERING A CHARTER THIS
IS YOUR RIGHT BUT BE AWARE IF
YOUR CHILD HAS DISABILITIES HE
OR SHE MAY BE REFUSED.
IF YOUR CHILD IS AN ENGLISH
LEARNER HE OR SHE MAY BE
REFUSED.
REFUSED.
REFUSED. THE CHARTER MAY SHUT DOWN IN
THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.
ABOUT 30 TO 35% OF THE CHARTERS
THAT HAVE OPENED WITH FEDERAL
FUNDING HAVE CLOSED DOWN OR
NEVER EVEN OPENED.
IT IS LIKE -- I SORT OF QUOTE
FROM AN EDITOR AT THE ORLANDO
SENTINEL AND HE SAID SAY WHAT
YOU WILL ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS,
YOU WILL NEVER GO TO SCHOOL IN
THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR AND
DISCOVER THAT YOUR SCHOOL JUST
ONE AT A BUSINESS.
THIS HAPPENS WITH CHARTERS ALL
THE TIME.
THE TIME.
THE TIME. THIS IS A BIG RISK FOR
>> THE THING THAT CAUGHT MY
ATTENTION IS NOT BETTER RESULTS
IN CHARTER SCHOOLS. IS THERE
DATA TO BACK THAT UP?
>> THERE HAVE BEEN MANY STUDIES
OF CHARTERS AND THOSE THAT GET
THE BEST TEST COURSE ARE THE
ONES THAT DO NOT ACCEPT THE
ENGLISH LANE IT LANGUAGE
LEARNERS OR KIDS WITH
DISABILITIES.
DISABILITIES. THEY KICK OUT THE KIDS WITH LOW
TEST SCORES AND OF COURSE HE
WILL GET HIGHER SCORES OF
PEOPLE SHOT THE KIDS WITH LOW
SCORES.
SCORES.
SCORES. THE CHARTERS ON THE WHOLE AS A
SECTOR DO NOT GET BETTER
RESULTS THAN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
I THINK THE QUESTION WE AS A
COUNTRY HAVE TO ASK IS WHY
SHOULD WE BE FUNDED TWO OR
THREE DIFFERENT SCHOOL SYSTEMS
AT THE SAME TIME JUST TO SEE
WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, WHAT
DIFFERENCE CHARTERS MAKE.
I SUGGEST LOOKING AT MILWAUKEE
THAT JUST HAD A CHARTER SECTOR,
VOUCHER SECTOR, AND PUBLIC
SECTOR.
SECTOR.
SECTOR. THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER
OF STUDENTS AND MILWAUKEE IS
ONE OF THE LOWEST PERFORMING
DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTRY.
IT IS THE LOWEST PERFORMING
SECTOR DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY.
>> PHILOSOPHY WISE, YOU
MENTIONED THIS IDEA OF
EVERYBODY BEING ABLE TO GO TO
SCHOOL AND WE ALL GO TO THE
SCHOOLS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT WAS THAT MEANT TO
ACCOMPLISH.
ACCOMPLISH. >> THE IDEA OF PUBLIC EDUCATION
IS AT THE TIME THAT PUBLIC
EDUCATION WAS CREATED IN THE
EARLY 19th CENTURY IS THAT WE
WERE THE FIRST THEN OFFERED A
FREE EDUCATION TO EVERYBODY.
MOST COUNTRIES DID NOT.
EDUCATION IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO
PEOPLE THAT COULD AFFORD
PRIVATE TUTORS. WE HAD A NEW
IDEA OF FREE COMMON EDUCATION.
IT IS WRITTEN IN THE
CONSTITUTION THAT COMMON
SCHOOLS ARE SCHOOLS THAT ARE
OPEN EVERYBODY.
OPEN EVERYBODY. THIS CHILDREN IN THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON THAT ATTEND FREE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS WASHINGTON STATE
DOES VERY WELL AND I THINK ONLY
RECENTLY TO THE LEGISLATURE
AGREE TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR
PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE FUTURE
AND THAT'S WHERE IN THIS
COUNTRY ALMOST 90% OF THE KIDS
WHO ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUT THE
VERY WEALTHY PEOPLE WHETHER IT
IS THE WALTONS OR BETSY DEVOS OR
THE ONE REMAINING COKE BROTHER
THEY WOULD LIKE US TO SPEND ALL
OF OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT
CHARTERS AND VOUCHERS BUT NOT
TALKING ABOUT RAISING TAXES TO
ADEQUATELY SUPPORT PUBLIC
SCHOOLS.
SCHOOLS.
SCHOOLS. ONE THING I WOULD BRING UP IS
THAT KIDS ARE WAY OVER TESTED.
ONE OF THE GREAT STORIES IS
THAT STORY OF GARFIELD HIGH
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL. I
SCHOOL. I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE
TEACHER'S BOYCOTT OF A USELESS
TEST.
TEST.
TEST. EVERY SINGLE TEACHER AT
GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOL WE WILL
NOT GET THIS TEST.
WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR
JOBS AND THEY STOOD TOGETHER
AND THE TEST WAS SUSPENDED.
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY KIDS ARE
TAKING USELESS TESTS.
THERE'S NO HIGH-PERFORMING
NATION IN THE WORLD THAT TESTS
EVERY CHILD EVERY YEAR.
WE STARTED THIS WITH GEORGE W.
BUSH WITH EVERY NO CHILD LEFT
BEHIND.
BEHIND.
BEHIND. WE CONTINUE TO SPEND BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR ON
TESTING.
TESTING.
TESTING. IT SHOULD BE GOING TO REDUCE
CLASS SIZES AND PAY TEACHERS
MORE.
MORE.
MORE. >>
MORE. >> THE BOOK IS FASCINATING.
WHETHER YOU HAVE A KID OR NOT
IF THIS IS OUR FUTURE AND WHAT
WE DO WITH OUR KIDS AND
EDUCATION THANK YOU VERY