of course one of the biggest events of twenty twelve was the re-election of
president obama
by a far bigger margin than george w_ bush was reelected in two thousand four
on the day after the election we discussed
c_n_n_ and foxnews calling the election for president obama and of course the
incredibly whole areas and particularly funny now in retrospect hijinks of dick
morris and karl rove
very very upset and then their predictions that they made which went
incredibly wrong
let's remember what it was like
on november eighth after that election
i idon't know why dick morris is particularly distasteful to me lewis
but uh... but he is something about him
is particularly distasteful let's get a look at some of that that you know that
he had
stuff tried
so you unsure
for indiagen your times all
yell and let me let me go through the numbers 'cause it's important for people
to get yes it was not able to get why i'm gonna
make up something completely false and be proven to be completely wrong on
election day
prove it to us that dick here let let's take a look art of the time says obama's
can win by one
but this sample has seven points more democrats than republicans all turns out
that's not the case it turns out that bronco bomber
is apparently going to win florida we're still waiting for the final results
continue dick please inspire us with your incredible analysis of why the
right wing
uh... media really knows what the election results will be pollster john
mclaughlin and i went through the actual results of the last four elections and
on average
the republicans had one percent more than the democrats have so that pose off
by a factor of eight source unabomber winning but wasn't there when i say
the polls are by halfback there of a
it's multiple stats standard deviations off from the reality turns out the poll
is about right
and hold more small was dead wrong downtown let me just is not about that
the reason why the polls right
is because they just ask people what party do you self-identified as and
that's something that's fluid it changes over time so and anyone snapshot when
people say if thirty eight percent of the people who answered the survey said
that they're democrats that doesn't mean that they're over understating how many
democrats are gonna show that just means that the people they're gonna vote
self-identified outweigh absolutely will continue
one romney would win florida by seven
in ohio
uh... obama's shown as winning by five in the times poll
but they had eight points more democrats than republicans and historically there
were only two points more deals than orchestra so that six points off some
set of romney losing by five he wins ohio by one yep bethlehem in virginia
they have obama winning by two
but they have eight points more democrats than republicans and
historically is one point more republican than democrat that's off by a
factor of nine romney wins ohio bright woodwinds regina by sending an estimated
one of you know is what we have learned that how it this is the bill o'reilly
program and somehow this guy zoological on here and say
uh... brought it in a way of florida by seven
and uh... and and virginia by how much by eight or by nine in this case just
nonsense that's nonsense and everybody knew it but they're talking about it
like this is reasonable
and this bill right we have any sort of follow up with with them
uh... here's my question
cannot holster
assume that all democrats and all republicans are going on vote for
whoever's running in a party can you can use soon and certainty
yes you can u he'd get about ninety percent voting for their parties so he
can hits the independents he split
but what the new york times is doing
is the taking a poll
that probably because it initially accurate
i'll bet that all three of those polled sure romney ahead out i think it if it
does not fancy went on to say that romney was gonna have three hundred or
something out for a vote didn't happen and that's the case
not everybody was this ridiculous though at least not after the fact
here is newton gingrich this morning on c_b_s_
saying we got it wrong and includes dick morris has become morris got it wrong i
got it wrong
we got it wrong
problem in the same bluntly we were wrong
uh... when karl rove michael barone
that morsel room for those frankly misunderstood was happening in the
country anyone available with having the country in the sense that the average of
all polls predicted this race exactly
and you just chose not to believe that right away but it would mean they didn't
understand what was happening in this country
isuzu choosing not to believe it or suggests
trying to use different data that might not be accurate data that doesn't exist
except in their mind you we think that they were making this up do we think
that they just
it didn't want to believe it surveyed the room for anything
give them an excuse to say the ronnie my wind i don't know you know it's
interesting about this whole thing this is really just part of the republican
rejection of backs you can imagine
it's romney had one if
republican presidents would win in the next twelve to sixteen years yeah in
thirty years you have newt gingrich at you know a hundred and forty
saying that you know we just got this all wrong with global warming is we were
just totally wrong or what was going on in the country we don't know
suggesting that knee-deep in water
let's go to some of the calls of the election here it is wolf blitzer on
c_n_n_ making that call
uh... call that was uh... really acting big drama in the sense that we can tell
about ninety minutes before this call exactly what direction things were going
in
however c_n_n_ in many networks using understandably to make a dramatic and
here it was from wolf blitzer on c_n_n_
another four years because we project people carry the state of ohio
by carrying ohio the wins re-election the president of the united states
defeats is naturally
we have made this projection for the president
vista
for the white house they're excited so there was a man of course we have to see
what happened on fox news right
my thought yesterday was the president obama's re-elected
i'm gonna be watching for come in at which it almost canceled the show and
just run foxnews that'll be the show today just seeing what fox news is doing
let us take a little bit here's the announcement
from fox news about the big win for president of bomb into big loss for fox
news
and a lot of their cronies and funders and right wing rich guys so on and so
forth let's take a look
all right
uh... border state
uh... or hire out and now as we told you
boxes has projected that brought about a has won it and partners
is projecting echohawk obama
had been reelected as president by the united states
at mit romney's pass it to be presidency has now been foreclosed with a lot of
ohio because now we can project that bronco obama will win a high along
and foreign
uh... the state of iowa will go to president obama nintendo and a number of
other fifth also there does from fox news