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ELIZABETH: BACK WITH US NOW
FORMER ACTING HOMELAND SECURITY
SECRETARY CHAD WOLF.
CHAD, IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU
AGAIN.
WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THIS STORY
WHEN YOU HEARD ABOUT IT, SENATOR
LANKFORD, HE IS A MEMBER OF
SENATE HOMELAND SECURITY, HE IS
SAYING THAT HOMELAND SECURITY
MAYORKAS, HE WANTS TO GET
INFORMATION ON WHY MAYORKAS IS
AGAIN SECRETLY EXPANDING DHS
AUTHORITY ACROSS SEVERAL
HOMELAND SECURITY SUBAGENCIES TO
DO CENSORSHIP AND MONITOR
DISINFORMATION ON THE INTERNET?
WHAT’S GOING ON HERE?
>> WELL I THINK THE SENATOR HAS
GOT SOME LEGITIMATE CONCERNS
HERE THAT DHS SECRETARY MAYORKAS
NEEDS TO REALLY COME CLEAN ABOUT
OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE KNOW, DHS
LOOKED AT FOR ININTERFERENCE,
LOOKING AT CYBERATTACKS, FROM
FOREIGN ADVERSARIES.
WHAT APPEARS TO BE HAPPENING
WHAT WE’RE SEEING, DHS LOOKING
AT DOMESTIC ISSUES, RACIAL
JUSTICE THEY TALK ABOUT, ORIGINS
OF COVID, EFFICACY OF COVID
VACCINE THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FOREIGN
INTERFERENCE.
WE’RE TALKING ABOUT DOMESTIC
ISSUES.
THAT IS CONCERNING TO A LOT OF
AMERICANS IF YOU’RE GOING TO
HAVE DHS, A FEDERAL AGENCY TO
SAY, HEY, WHAT IS THE TRUTH AND
WHAT IS NOT THE TRUTH.
WE GET VERY CLOSE TO FIRST
AMENDMENT PROTECTED ISSUES AND
FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
I THINK THAT IS THE MOST
CONCERNING THING WE SEE HERE.
ELIZABETH: TO YOUR POINT WE TALK
ABOUT THE PANDEMIC, PEOPLE WERE
RAILROADED INTO THINKING THE
VACCINES WERE TOTALLY SAFE.
IT WAS ABOUT INFORMED CONSENT.
NOW YOU HAVE PFIZER AND MODERNA
DOING CLINICAL TESTS ABOUT THE
SIDE-EFFECTS INCLUDING DAMAGE TO
THE HEART FROM VACCINES, YOU
KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
"VANITY FAIR" DID AN EXPLOSIVE
EXPOSE’ SHOWING THAT THE
PANDEMIC LIKELY DID LEAK OUT OF
THE WUHAN LAB BASED ON, BASED ON
"THE INTERCEPT"’S REPORTING
ARCHIVED ON THE INTERNET WHAT
THE CHINESE WERE SAYING TO EACH
OTHER.
THIS IS WEIRD MISSION CREEP.
SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE KEPT IN THE DARK
BY WHAT MAYORKAS THINKS IS THE
TRUTH, THE TRUTH MINISTRY, YOU
KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
>> I THINK THIS IS THE
CONCERNING PART.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT
DUMB.
THEY CAN WEIGH BOTH SIDES OF THE
ISSUE.
THEY SHOULD BE PRESENTED BOTH
SIDES FACTS, THEY CAN DECIDE FOR
THEMSELVES BUT TO HAVE A
GOVERNMENT AGENCY SAY THIS IS
WHAT IS TRUTHFUL, THIS IS WHAT
IS NOT, BASED ON CRITERIA
UNKNOWN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
THEY ARE DECIDING ON, PERHAPS
BECAUSE IT FITS A NARRATIVE THEY
WANT, THAT IS WHAT IS AT ISSUE
HERE.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE OBVIOUSLY
THAT OPEN PRESS SO THEY CAN
CERTAINLY REPORT ON VARIOUS
SIDES OF A PARTICULAR ISSUE.
LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DECIDE
WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS THE TRUTH
OR NOT BUT NOT TO HAVE A
GOVERNMENT AGENCY, PARTICULARLY
HERE IN THE DOMESTIC ARENA,
SAYING, PUTTING THEIR THUMB ON
THE TRUTH SCALE THERE.
>> OTHER THING TOO IS, WHY, WHY
IS MAYORKAS DOING THIS?
HE FACES POSSIBLE IMPEACHMENT.
EVEN THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR
HOMELAND SECURITY SAYS THERE IS
NO NEED FOR ANY DISINFORMATION
BOARD TO EXIST AT ALL.
WE ALREADY HAVE, WE’RE SPENDING
TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS,
TAXPAYERS ARE, ON PUBLIC AFFAIRS
OFFICES IN EACH AGENCY.
AND KNOW HE NEEDS ANOTHER
DISINFORMATION BOARD?
IT TEAMS LIKE A TOTAL WASTE OF
MONEY.
FEELS LIKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,
THEY ARE TRYING TO KEEP HIM IN
THE DARK.
WEAPON GET IT ABOUT, WE GET IT
ABOUT BAD INFORMATION ON THE
INTERNET.
WE GET IT ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA.
YOU KNOW WHAT FIXES BAD
INFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA?
MORE INFORMATION.
NOT THIS.
NOT CENSORSHIP.
>> THAT’S RIGHT.
I THINK, DHS WAS CAUGHT SEVERAL
MONTHS AGO ABOUT THIS
DISINFORMATION BOARD.
AT THE END OF THE DAY HAD TO
DISBAND IT, NOT ONLY WERE THEY
GETTING CRITICISM OBVIOUSLY FROM
THE LEFT BUT ALSO FROM THE LEFT.
BECAUSE THE LEFT ALSO SAW THIS
WAS NOT NEEDED.
THIS HAS GONE BEYOND THE MISSION
OF DHS WHAT THEY DO EVERY DAY TO
PROTECT THE HOMELAND.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT
DISINFORMATION BOARD DISSOLVED,
BUT YET YOU STILL SEE THE
DEPARTMENT UNDERTAKING THESE
TYPES OF EVENTS AND YOU’RE
SAYING TO YOURSELF, MAYBE
THEY’RE STILL DOING IT WITHOUT
THE BOARD IN THE NAME.
I THINK THAT IS AGAIN WHAT IS
THE CONCERNING PART.
IT DESERVES SOME OVERSIGHT.
ELIZABETH: CHAD, FINAL QUESTION,
WHY IS HE MONITORING THE BOTCHED
INFORMATION ABOUT THE BOTCHED
WITHDRAWAL BY THE BIDEN
WHITE HOUSE FROM AFGHANISTAN AND
NOW AID TO UKRAINE TO BATTLE
RUSSIA?
WHY IS MAYORKAS MONITORING THAT?
>> IT IS BIZARRE.
IT IS BIZARRE.
HE NEEDS TO BE QUESTIONED ABOUT
THAT.
WHY IS THAT SOMEHOW DANGEROUS TO
AMERICANS TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE
WOULD WITHDRAW FROM AFGHANISTAN
OR AID TO UKRAINE IN WHAT
CAPACITY?
I THINK HE NEEDS TO BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT.