MARCO RUBIO'S OFFICE.
MANY OF THEM SHOWED UP CARRYING
SIGNS SAYING I BELIEVE CHRISTINE
OR I BELIEVE IN WOMEN.
AND FOR MORE INSIGHT WHATEVER
WE WITNESSED TODAY, WE ARE
JOINED BY GUY LEWIS.
AND, GUY, THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE.
WE WITNESSED 9 HOURS OF DRAMA
DURING BOTH TESTIMONIES BY JUDGE
KAVANAUGH AND BY CHRISTINE
BLASEY FORD.
WHAT WAS YOUR IMPRESSION?
ELIOTT, IT WAS GUT-WRENCHING.
VERY MUCH SO LIKE WE DID WHEN WE
WERE ANALYZING A CASE AS
PROSECUTORS.
YOU HAD WITNESS COMES IN
SOMETIMES THAT WOULD GIVE YOU
DIAMETRICAL
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE --
OF BREAK OFF FROM THE MAJORITY,
AND YOU COUNT THE VOTES.
I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT HE'S
GOING TO GET IN.
AND THAT'S THE KEY WHETHER
THOSE SWING VOTE SENATORS,
SENATOR COLLINS FROM MAINE,
SENATOR MYKOWSKY FROM ALASKA AND
A COUPLE OTHER SENATOR IT'S THEY
CAN BE SWAYED.
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU THOUGHT
ABOUT THE WAY JUDGE KAVANAUGH
PRESENTED HIMSELF.
HE CAME ACROSS AS ANGRY.
VERY EMOTIONAL AND ANGRY.
DO YOU THINK THAT WAS EFFECTIVE?
I THINK AS TIMES BECAUSE IF
YOU LOOK AT IT AND A PERSON IS
ACCUSED FALSELY OF SUCH A
HEINOUS CRIME AND THAT'S WHAT
THIS IS.
MAKE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
HER ALLEGATION IS JUST
DR. FORD'S AND NOT THE OTHER TWO
IS A SEXUAL ATTACK.
I MEAN, A PREDATOR, IF YOU
BELIEVE HER ALLEGATIONS.
AND THEN YOU STACK THE OTHER TWO
LADIES WHO HAVE COME FORWARD AND
MADE VERY, VERY SERIOUS
ALLEGATIONS INCLUDING THE LAST
ONE CALLING HIM BASICALLY A
GANG-RAPIST.
IF YOU BELIEVE HER.
THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES AS YOU
SIT DO DOWN AND TALK TO JUDGE
KAVANAUGH IS WHAT IS THE
MEASURED RESPONSE.
IS IT INDIGNITY.
SHOULD YOU BE ANGRY AS A RESULT
OF BEING FALSELY ACCUSED?
CERTAINLY THE REPUBLICANS WOULD
SAY YES -- AND BY THE END,
WHAT'S INTERESTING -- BY THE END
OF THE HEARING THEY ACTUALLY
STARTED TO REFER TO -- AND
POSTURE JUDGE KAVANAUGH AS THE
VICTIM HERE.
WASN'T THAT INTERESTING TO TAKE
THE VICTIM, THE ALLEGATION OF
THE VICTIM AND TURN IT AROUND
AND MAKE JUDGE KAVANAUGH THE
VICTIM.
IT ALL SEEMED TO ME LIKE HE
WAS COMING OFF THAT WAY FROM THE
VERY BEGINNING THAT HE WAS KIND
OF POSITIONING HIS OPENING
STATEMENT IN THAT WAY, FRAMING
IT IN THAT WAY.
I THINK YOU'VE RIGHT, RUDABEH
SHAHBAZI.
WHAT FASCINATED ME WAS THE
INFORMATION THAT CAME OUT DURING
THE HEARING THAT IN D.C., THERE
IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR
THIS KIND OF SEXUAL OFFENSE.
SO, COULD IT BE INVESTIGATED
EVEN AFTER HE IS CONFIRMED?
MAYBE.
NOW, HE WENT LAST, AND I
HEARD ONE OF THE ANALYSTS SAY
THAT THAT'S AN EFFECTIVE TACTIC
AS AN ATTORNEY.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT HAS AN
IMPACT ON WHETHER IT'S THE JURY
OR THE SENATORS OR THE PUBLIC,
THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY ARE
LEFT WITH BY HEARING FROM HIM
LAST?
A HUNDRED PERCENT, ELIOTT.
SO AS PROSECUTORS, WE USED -- IN
OUR CLOSING ARGUMENTS, WE USED
TO GO FIRST AND WE USED TO GET
REBUTTAL.
WE USED TO GO LAST.
AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE I USED TO
SAVE SOME OF THE NUGGETS FOR THE
REBUTTAL BECAUSE YOU GOT TO HAVE
THE LAST WORD.
HOW IMPORTANT IS THE LAST WORD
IN AN ARGUMENT?
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MIGHT BE
CLOSE TO 50/50 LIKE YOU'VE GOT
HERE.
IT COULD COME DOWN TO THAT.
I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK
ABOUT RACHEL MITCHELL.
SHE WAS THE PROSECUTOR BROUGHT
IN FROM MARICOPA COUNTY FROM
ARIZONA.
DID YOU THINK THAT WAS AN
EFFECTIVE STRATEGY?
SHE GOT FIVE MINUTES AND THEN
SHE WAS INTERRUPTED BY A
QUESTION FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE
OF THE AISLE AND THEN WOULD GO
BACK TO CONTINUE HER LINE OF
QUESTIONING?
RUDABEH, I UNDERSTAND THE
THOUGHT.
THE THOUGHT IS IN SOME
INSTANCES, 70, 85-YEAR-OLD MEN
UP THERE THAT MAY COME ACROSS AS
ATTACKING DR. FORD.
YOU DON'T WANT THAT IMAGE.
HOWEVER, I WASN'T SURE WHAT SHE
WAS DRIVING AT, HOW SHE WAS
TRYING TO QUESTION THE WITNESS.
WAS SHE TRYING TO EXTRACT
INFORMATION, WAS SHE TRYING TO
CAST DOUBT ON DR. FORD'S
TESTIMONY?
WAS SHE TRYING TO CAST DOUBT?
I MEAN, REALLY I WAS SORT OF
LOST THERE WHEN I WAS TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT HER ROLE WAS.
WELL, SOME WOULD SAY THAT HER
ROLE WAS SO THAT THE REPUBLICAN
SENATORS WOULDN'T HAVE TO
QUESTION CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD.
I WANT TO ASK YOU IF JUDGE
KAVANAUGH IS CONFIRMED, AND HE
IS ON A SUPREME COURT.
IS THERE SUCH THING AS A JUDGE
BEING TAINTED?
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS STILL
SOMETHING THAT MAY HAUNT HIM IN
THE FUTURE, OR IS THIS ALL
BEHIND HIM ONCE HE'S ON THE
COURT?
WELL, THAT'S A GREAT
QUESTION.
WHO WILL EVER THINK ABOUT AND
REMEMBER THE CLARENCE THOMAS
JUDGESHIP AND NOT THINK ABOUT
ANITA HILL.
HOW COULD YOU EVER, EVEN IF HE
GETS CONFIRMED, HOW COULD YOU
EVER THINK ABOUT JUDGE KAVANAUGH
AND NOT THINK ABOUT WHAT WE SAW
TODAY?