THIS GUY IS BRUTAL AND WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN BUCHA IS OUTRAGEOUS
AND EVERYONE IS SEEING IT.
>> PRESIDENT BIDEN ALSO SAID HIS
ADMINISTRATION WILL BE IMPOSING
NEW SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA.
>>> JOINING US NOW, SPECIAL
ADVISER AT THE WHITE HOUSE,
NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL, MATT
MILLER.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US, MATT.
PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS TALKING
ABOUT UKRAINIANS GETTING THE
WEAPONS THEY NEED.
WILL THEY?
DO THEY HAVE THEM NOW?
>> THEY DO, AND, IN FACT, WE
CONTINUE TO FLOW NEW WEAPON
SYSTEMS IN EVERY DAY.
WE HAVE PROVIDED MORE THAN $1.6
BILLION IN SECURITY SYSTEMS TO
UKRAINE JUST SINCE THE CONFLICT
BEGAN, OVER $2 BILLION SINCE
PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS ELECTED TO
OFFICE.
WE CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY AND
FACILITATE THE TRANSFER OF NEW
SYSTEMS EVERY DAY, NOT JUST THE
JAVELIN MISSILES THAT THE
UKRAINIANS HAVE BEEN USE TO GO
SUCH GREAT EFFECT TO DESTROY
RUSSIAN TANKS ON THE
BATTLEFIELD, NOT JUST THE
STINGERS, BUT ALSO LONG RANGE
AIR DEFENSE SYSTEMS.
WHEN THE PRESIDENT WENT TO
BRUSSELS TWO WEEKS AGO HE TALKED
TO OUR NATO ALLIES AND URGED
THEM TO PROVIDE COASTAL DEFENSE
SYSTEMS TO THE UKRAINIANS,
SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT
ZELENSKYY EXPLICITLY ASKED FOR.
LAST WEEK THE UNITED KINGDOM
ANNOUNCED IN RESPONSE TO THAT
REQUEST THAT THOSE SYSTEMS WOULD
BE PROVIDED.
SO WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
UKRAINIANS TO IDENTIFY NEW
WEAPONS CAPABILITIES AND GET
THEM DELIVERED TO THEM ON THE
GROUND SO THEY CAN USE THEM IN
THE FIGHT AGAINST THE RUSSIANS.
>> SO, MATT, GENERAL McCAFFREY
WAS ON EARLIER AND HE SAID, WE
BELIEVE CORRECTLY, THAT THIS WAR
HAS ENTERED A NEW PHASE WITH THE
RUSSIANS LEAVING THE KYIV AREA
AND REPOSITIONING.
SAYS THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE
MOMENT, A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR
THE UKRAINIANS.
TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
GETTING TANKS IN THERE, TALKED
ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
ANTI-SHIP SYSTEMS IN THERE,
ANTI-SHIP MISSILES.
ARE WE SEEING AN INCREASE IN NOT
ONLY THE SPEED OF THE WEAPONS
GOING IN THERE, BUT ALSO THE
TYPE OF WEAPONS THAT ARE GOING
IN?
>> WE ARE, JOE.
IN FACT, WE AGREE WITH GENERAL
McCAFFREY, JAKE SULLIVAN THE
PRESIDENT'S NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISER SAID THAT FROM THE WHITE
HOUSE PODIUM YESTERDAY, THAT
WHAT WE ARE SEEING ARE THE
RUSSIANS WITHDRAWING FROM KYIV,
WITHDRAWING FROM THE NORTH AND
REDEPLOYING TO LAUNCH A FESH
ROERNS ASSAULT ON THE EAST.
WE EXPECT THEM TO DEPLOY DOZENS
OF TACTICAL GROUPS INSTITUTING
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF RUSSIAN
SOLDIERS TO TRY TO SURROUND THE
UKRAINIAN FORCES THERE AND
LAUNCH A NEW PHASE OF THIS WAR.
SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO FLOW NEW
TYPES OF SECURITY ASSISTANCE.
ONE THING I WILL SAY ABOUT THIS,
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TYPES OF
SECURITY SYSTEMS THAT WE TALK
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN EVERYONE
SEES JAVELIN MISSILES BEING USED
TO DESTROY RUSSIAN TANKS ON
SOCIAL MEDIA THERE IS NO POINT
ON US TRYING TO HIDE THE BALL
ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING, AND
THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF
SECURITY ASSISTANCE WE DON'T
TALK ABOUT EITHER BECAUSE OUR
ALLIES DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE
THEY PROVIDED THOSE WEAPONS
CAPABILITIES TO THE UKRAINIANS
OR THE UKRAINIANS WANT TO KEEP
SOME BIT OF OPERATIONAL SECURITY
AND NOT TELEGRAPH EXACTLY TO THE
RUSSIANS WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING.
YOU WILL SEE REPORTS OF THINGS
THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT WE
DON'T CONFIRM, BUT I CAN ASSURE
YOU WE HAVE PROVIDING NEW
WEAPONS CAPABILITIES TO THE
UKRAINIAN ARMY ALMOST EVERY DAY.
>> MATT, GOOD MORNING, JONATHAN
LEMIRE.
WE HEARD THE PRESIDENT SUGGEST
THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN SHOULD STAND
TRIAL FOR WAR CRIMES, HE AND
PERHAPS HIS TOP AIDES.
HOW POSSIBLY COULD THAT COME
ABOUT?
SECONDLY, MANY OF THOSE ON THE
GROW UNDER IN UKRAINE ARE USING
THE TERM GENOCIDE TO DESCRIBE
WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE IN THE
SUBURBS OF KYIV, BUT THE
ADMINISTRATION POINTEDLY IS NOT
DOING SO YET.
TELL US WHY.
>> SO WITH RESPECT TO GENOCIDE
SPECIFICALLY, THAT IS A FORMAL
LEGAL DETERMINATION, IT TAKES A
GREAT DEAL OF EVIDENCE, TAKES A
GREAT DEAL OF REVIEW.
WE HAVE JUST BEGUN TO COLLECT
EVIDENCE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN
BUCHA, ALTHOUGH WE CAN SEE WITH
OUR OWN EYES THE VIDEOS OF WHAT
HAPPENED, IT'S APPARENT THERE
WERE MASS ATROCITIES, IT'S
APPARENT THAT THERE WERE WAR
CRIMES COMMITTED AS THE
PRESIDENT SAID.
WE WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS
THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT
CONDUCTS TO ASSESS WHETHER IT
WAS OFFICIALLY GENOCIDE BUT
THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES SOME TIME.
WHATEVER YOU CALL WHAT HAPPENED
IN BUCHA IT'S APPARENT IT WAS A
MASS ATROCITIES AND THAT'S WHY
WE ARE COMMITTED TO HOLDING THE
RUSSIANS ACCOUNTABLE, TO HOLDING
THE RUSSIAN MILITARY, RUSSIAN
LEADER ISSHIP ACCOUNTABLE AND
CONTINUE TO FLOW MILITARY
ASSISTANCE IN SO THE UKRAINIANS
CAN DEFEND THEMSELVES IN THE
FACE OF THESE ATROCITIES.
WITH RESPECT TO ANY TRIAL WE
CONTINUE TO DISCUSS WITH OUR
ALLIES, PARTNERS, UKRAINIANS
WHAT ANY KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY
MECHANISM WILL LOOK LIKE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POTENTIAL
AVENUES AVAILABLE TO US, WE WILL
DISCUSS THAT WITH ALL OF OUR
ALLIES, THERE ARE THINGS THAT
HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED IN THE PAST,
BUT IN THE MEANTIME I THINK
PEOPLE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT
THAT TYPE OF ACCOUNTABILITY
MECHANISM IS SOMETHING THAT
WOULD COME DOWN THE ROAD.
I THINK IN THE MEANTIME WE CAN'T
LOSE FOCUS OF THE FIGHT THAT IS
IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF US.
THE FIGHT THAT THE UKRAINIANS
ARE CONDUCTING TO DEFEND THEIR
COUNTRY EVERY DAY.
SO THAT'S WHY KIND OF THE --
HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE THROUGH
TRIALS IS A -- TOMORROW OR DOWN
THE ROAD ISSUE, GETTING MILITARY
ASSISTANCE INTO THE UKRAINIANS
SO THEY CAN DEFEND THEMSELVES IS
A TODAY ISSUE THAT WE ARE
FOCUSED ON REALLY EVERY DAY HERE
AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> MATT, GOOD MORNING.
YOU HAVE JUST LAID OUT ALL THE
ASSISTANCE THAT THE UNITED
STATES WAS PROVIDED TO UKRAINE
IN THIS FIGHT, BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN AID WITH MORE TO COME
DOWN THE ROAD AND YET WE EXPECT
TO HEAR AGAIN FROM PRESIDENT
ZELENSKYY TODAY BEFORE THE U.N.
SECURITY COUNCIL A PLEA TO THE
WEST, INCLUDING TO THE UNITED
STATES, TO DO MORE.
WE KNOW THERE ARE THINGS THE
UNITED STATES SAYS IT WILL NOT
DO LIKE CREATE A NO FLY ZONE,
BUT WHAT IS PRESIDENT BIDEN'S
ANSWER IN THEIR CONVERSATIONS TO
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY WHO SAYS
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE
BUT I NEED MUCH MORE IF WE'RE
GOING TO PUSH THE RUSSIANS OUT?
>> LOOK, WE VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND
WHERE PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY IS
COMING FROM.
I THINK ANYONE WHO HAS SEEN HIS
COUNTRY ATTACKED WOULD ACT
EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS HE HAS
DONE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO BOTH
IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY AND IN OUR
CONVERSATIONS AT ALL LEVELS OF
THE GOVERNMENT FROM OUR
GOVERNMENT TO THEIR GOVERNMENT
IS TO IDENTIFY THE SECURITY
ASSISTANCE -- THE WEAPONS, THE
ARMS THAT WE THINK WOULD BE MOST
EFFECTIVE AND THAT THE
UKRAINIANS ARE TRAINED AND KNOW
HOW TO USE AND WE CAN GET INTO
THE COUNTRY QUICKLY AND THEY CAN
DEPLOY INTO THE BATTLEFIELD
QUICKLY WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE
WEEKS OR MONTHS TO TRAIN UP ON
NEW SYSTEMS.
WE HAVE TRIED TO WORK THROUGH
THEIR LIST.
WE GET LIST THE UKRAINIANS, WE
GO THROUGH THEM WITH SOME LEVEL
OF GRANULARITY HERE AT THE WHITE
HOUSE AND AT THE PENTAGON.
IN SOME CASES WE FIGURE OUT WHAT
ARE THE SYSTEMS WE CAN PROVIDE,
IN OTHER CASES WE FIGURE OUT
WHAT ARE SYSTEMS THAT WE DON'T
HAVE BECAUSE THEY MAY BE SOVIET
ERA OR RUSSIAN SYSTEMS, BUT SOME
OTHER ALLIES EITHER IN EUROPE OR
AROUND THE WORLD HAVE AND WE
WORK TO TRY TO FACILITATE
TRANSFERS OF THOSE SYSTEMS TO
THE UKRAINIANS AND AT THE SAME
TIME OFTEN TRY TO BACKFILL OUR
ALLIES SO THEY AREN'T LEFT
DEFENSELESS.
SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
THROUGH THAT PROCESS, IT'S
SOMETHING WE DO EVERY DAY, AND I
WOULD SAY I WOULD EXPECT NEW
SECURITY ASSISTANCE
ANNOUNCEMENTS TO COME IN THE
VERY NEAR FUTURE.
>> MATT, AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS A
LARGE ELEMENT OF THE SOVIET
FLEET SITTING IN THE BLACK SEA
LOOKING RIGHT AT ODESA AND
ODESA, IF IT FALLS, IS A
CRITICAL LOSS TO THE FUTURE OF
THE UKRAINIAN ECONOMY.
IS THERE -- AND THIS IS A
MULTIFRONT WAR, WE ALL
UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IS THERE A
PRIORITY IN GETTING WEAPON
SYSTEMS INTO ODESA TO PROTECT
ODESA FROM FALLING?
>> THERE IS.
I CAN TELL YOU -- I MENTIONED A
MINUTE AGO ONE OF THE THINGS THE
PRESIDENT DID WHEN HE WAS IN
BRUSSELS SOME 12 DAYS AGO NOW AT
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY'S REQUEST
WAS TO TRY TO IDENTIFY COASTAL
DEFENSE SYSTEMS THAT WE COULD
GET TO THE UKRAINIANS TO DEFEND
THEIR CITIES ALONG THE COAST.
WE LOOKED IN OUR INVENTORY, WE
FOUND THERE WEREN'T COASTAL
DEFENSE SYSTEMS THAT WERE AN
EXACT MATCH WE THOUGHT WOULD BE
EFFECTIVE AND COULD GET IN
QUICKLY SO WE TALKED TO OUR
ALLIES AND PARTNERS TO FIND
OTHER COASTAL DEFENSE SYSTEMS
AND AS THE UNITED KINGDOM SAID
LAST WEEK THOSE COASTAL DEFENSE