EASTERN THE ONE AND ONLY NANCY
GRACE WILL TAKE OVER WITH
SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE IDAHO
MURDERS, AND SHE JOINS US NOW
WITH A PREVIEW.
NANCY GRACE, THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE.
I WANT TO START WITH THE IDEA
THAT ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT WE
GOT IS THAT WHEN THEY WENT IN TO
CAPTURE HIM THAT HE SAID, AM I
THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS ARRESTED?
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
AND GIVE US YOUR ANALYSIS OF
THIS WHOLE CASE AND WHERE WE ARE
TODAY.
>> WELL, THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT
THERE IS AN ACCOMPLICE.
I WANT TO POINT OUT TWO THINGS.
THIS GUY HAS GOT A MASTERS
DEGREE IN CRIMINOLOGY.
HE’S CURRENTLY WORKING ON A
Ph.D. IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
YET, HE DROVE THE GETAWAY CAR?
ALL THE WAY AND PARKED IT
OUTSIDE OF MOMMY’S HOUSE.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
ANOTHER THING WE KNOW ABOUT THIS
GUY, HE’S BEEN DESCRIBED AS
OBSESSIVELY VEHICLE BEGAN TO THE
POINT THAT HE MADE HIS PARENTS
GET RID OF THE POTS AND PANS.
THE BAKE PROCESS IN THE
DISHWASHER WASN’T ENOUGH.
THEY HAD TO BUY NEW PANS THAT
HAD NEVER TOUCHED MEAT.
WHAT DOES THAT TELL ME?
HE’S OBSESSIVE, FASTTIVOUS, 6
FEET TALL, DID YOU NOTICE THE
CHARGES?
HE DIDN’T GO IN TO STEAL OR RAPE
ANYBODY.
HE WENT INTO THE HOME WITH THE
INTENT TO KILL.
HOW LONG HAD HE BEEN WATCHING
THESE GIRLS?
AND AS WE SPEAK, JASON, THEY ARE
TEARING HIS PULLMAN APARTMENT
APART FOR ANY NOTES OR WRITINGS,
ANYTHING THAT CAN MATCH HIS UP
TO THIS MURDER, AND I PREDICT
THEY WILL FIND IT.
>> SO THE SUSPECT HERE, THE
INITIAL PROFILE THAT CAME OUT,
IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PERSON
THAT IS THE SUSPECT AT THIS
POINT.
>> YES, IT IS.
FROM THE GET-GO, WE SAID, A MALE
BETWEEN 25 AND 38 TO 40.
A WHITE MALE BECAUSE PEOPLE
NORMALLY KILL WITHIN THEIR OWN
RACE.
SINGLE.
WHICH HE IS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE IS NO
ADDITION OF A GIRLFRIEND, AN
EX-, A FIANCE, EVEN A HIGH
SCHOOL GIRLFRIEND HASN’T BEEN
DUG UP YET.
WHAT WAS HIS MOTIVATION?
LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY?
THE STATE DOESN’T HAVE TO PROVE
MOTIVATION.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS GUY.
WOULD IT SURPRISE YOU TO SEE HIM
THAT FACE, STARING AT YOU IN
YOUR BATHROOM WINDOW BECAUSE IT
WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME, AND THIS
IS A DEATH PENALTY STATE.
FOUR BODIES EQUALS THE DEATH
PENALTY.
>> WELL, I HOPE THAT THE PARENTS
HAVE SOME DEGREE OF CLOSURE AND
SOMETHING IN THEIR HEART --
>> WHOA, WHOA, WAIT A MINUTE.
SIR, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS
CLOSURE.
THIS GUY WILL PROBABLY END UP
WITH A LIFE SENTENCE UNLESS A
JURY COMES TO THEIR SENSES AND
GIVES HIM THE DEATH PENALTY.
THESE FAMILIES, AND I KNOW, AS
BEING A VICTIM OF VIOLENT CRIME,
YOU GET A LIFE SENTENCE FOR THE
REST OF YOUR LIFE, WONDERING
WHAT YOUR LOVED ONE WENT THROUGH
AT THE TIME OF THEIR DEATH.
IT WILL NEVER BE OVER FOR THEM.
THERE IS NO CLOSURE FOR THESE
FAMILIES.
>> THAT’S A GOOD POINT.
DO YOU BELIEVE THERE IS OR IS
NOT SOMEBODY ELSE OUT THERE?
THE POLICE CHIEF WAS ASKED A
DIRECT QUESTION, HE DIDN’T
EXACTLY GIVE A TOTALLY HUNDRED
PERCENT CONCLUSIVE ANSWER TO
THAT.
>> YOU’RE SO RIGHT, JASON, HE
TOTALLY DODGED IT.
FOR RINSECIALLY, IT APPEARS
THERE WAS ONLY ONE TYPE OF
WEAPON USED.
DID THEY HAND THE KNIFE OFF TO
EACH OTHER?
NO, COULD SOMEONE HAVE BEEN A
LOOKOUT?
DID SOMEONE HELP PLAN IT?
POSSIBLY.
POSSIBLY BUT IN MY MIND FAIRLY
DOUBTFUL.
>> NO MURDER WEAPON AT THIS
POINT.
WHAT’S YOUR TAKE ON THAT?
>> I THINK HE GOT RID OF THE
WEAPON.
I THINK HE STUDIED LONG ENOUGH
GETTING HIS MASTERS AND SOON HIS
Ph.D. IN CRIMINOLOGY TO KNOW TO
GET RID OF THE MURDER WEAPON.
HELLO.
STILL I’M FOUNDED BY THE FACT
THAT HE KEPT THE CAR.
MAYBE HE COULDN’T EXPLAIN THAT
AWAY TO MOMMY AND DADDY, AND
THAT CAR AS YOU HEARD A FEW
MINUTES AGO, IS GOING TO BE A
TREASURE TROVE.
IT’S PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO
CLEAN BLOOD OUT OF A CAR.
YOU CAN’T RID OF DNA WITH
BLEACH.
YOU’VE GOT TO USE SOMETHING LIKE
BLACK SWAN.
HE DIDN’T DO THAT.
I GUARANTEE YOU, THEY WILL FIND
SOMETHING, SOME TRACE IN THAT
CAR, BE IT THE FRONT, THE
STEERING WHEEL, THE IGNITION,
THE HATCHBACK, THERE WILL BE
SOMETHING IN THAT CAR.
>> YES, IT WAS DECEMBER 7 THAT
THEY PUT OUT THAT PICTURE AT
3:45 IN THE MORNING, THAT CAR IS
GOING BY BUT IT OBVIOUSLY PLAYED
A HUGE ROLE IN THE EVIDENCE IN
TRYING TO TRACK THIS PERSON
DOWN.
>> IT REALLY D. WE LONG SAID
FIND THE CAR.
OUR HOPES WERE RAISED WHEN A CAR
SIMILAR TO THIS WAS FOUND IN
OREGON WITH A HOMELESS PERSON
SLEEPING IT IN.
THAT WAS NOT THE CAR.
THIS IS THE CAR.
NOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY
HAVE MATCHED HIM UP TO DNA AT
THE CRIME SCENE.
IT CAN’T JUST BE ANY DNA BECAUSE
THAT WAS A REAL PARTY HOUSE.
IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH
THAT, HAVING A GOOD TIME?
BUT DNA AT A CRITICAL LOCATION
SUCH AS IN BOTH THE BEDROOMS, ON
ALL THE BODIES, OR MORE THAN ONE
BODY.
POSSIBLY ON THE DOOR KNOB.
DID HE TOUCH THE DOOR KNOB OF
THE DOWNSTAIRS GIRLS THAT LIVED
THAT NIGHT?
IT’S NOT JUST DNA AT THE SCENE.
IT’S DNA AT CRITICAL LOCATIONS
AT THE SCENE THAT WILL NOW MATCH
UP TO HIM.
WHERE DO THEY GET THE MATCH-UP?
MAYBE LIKE YOU HEARD EARLIER,
GENEALOGICAL DNA, OR MAYBE THEY
GOT HIS DNA FROM THIS FOUR-DAY
STAKEOUT WE KNOW THAT THE CAPS
HAVE DONE.
DID THEY SEE HIM THROW OUT A
PIZZA OR A McDONALD’S COFFEE
CUP?
WE DON’T KNOW BUT THEY WERE