BRIAN: THERE YOU SEE THE
FREEDOM TOWER.
IT TOOK SO LONG TO BUILD.
MAN, IT WAS WORTH THE WAIT.
THE ENTIRE COMPLEX HAS BEEN
REBUILT IT.
LOOKS TOTALLY DIFFERENT BUT
NO ONE WILL EVER FORGET
BECAUSE OF THE MUSEUM BUILT
COMMEMORATING THE 9/11
ATTACKS 18 YEARS AGO.
AINSLEY: THE FAMILIES ARE
GOING TO ARRIVE 7:00 AT 9/11
MEMORIAL HERE IN NEW YORK
CITY TO REMEMBER TODAY 18
YEARS AGO.
PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY
WILL PARTICIPATE IN A MOMENT
OF SILENCE.
SIX MOMENT OF SILENCES FOR
THE TWO PLANES THAT HIT AND
TWO TOWERS THAT FELL.
STEVE: YOU CAN SEE CLOUDY
HERE IN NEW YORK CITY ABOUT
15 MINUTES AGO THERE ON THE
FACE OF THE PENTAGON.
THEY UNFURLED THE FLAG AS
THEY DO EVERY YEAR SINCE
SEPTEMBER THE 11TH, 2001, TO
MARK THE 184 PEOPLE WHO DIED
IN THE ATTACK THAT DAY.
STEVE: RIGHT NOW, WE ARE
JOINED BY THE MAN WHO WAS
MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY AT
THE TIME, RUDY GIULIANI, WHO
HAS ALSO BEEN THE
PRESIDENT'S ATTORNEY OVER
THE LAST YEAR OR SO.
RUDY, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE
IT WAS 18 YEARS AGO.
>> SOMETIMES IT'S VERY HARD
TO BELIEVE THAT IT IS.
I WAS JUST SAYING THAT TO
SOMEONE.
SOMETIMES IT SEEMS LIKE
AGES.
SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE
YESTERDAY AND SOMETIMES IT'S
LIKE 100 YEARS AGO.
IT'S VERY HARD TO SAY.
WHEN YOU COME UP TO IT, I
WENT DOWN THERE A WEEK AGO,
AND HADN'T BEEN THERE IN A
WHILE.
AND I -- IT BROUGHT BACK A
LOT OF THE FEELINGS AND THE
MEMORIES.
THE STRANGE THING IS A LOT
OF THE EMOTION DOESN'T GO
AWAY WHEN YOU GET CONFRONTED
WITH IT.
YOU DON'T REMEMBER IT AS
OFTEN NOW 18 YEARS LATER.
BUT, WHEN YOU DO REMEMBER
IT, IN SOME WAYS IT'S MORE
POWERFUL.
BRIAN: WHAT'S INTERESTING IS
I REMEMBER HEADING DOWN WHEN
THE TOWERS WERE HIT BECAUSE
WE WERE ON THE AIR.
I'M HEADING DOWN WITH A CREW
AND WE STOPPED THE CAMERA
GUY SAYS WE HAVE TO TAKE A
SHOT OF THIS ON BROADWAY.
SOME GUY WITH A JEAN SHIRT
ON AND A TIE AND HE IS
SITTING THERE AND HE IS
CURSING.
I GO WHAT'S GOING ON?
HE SAID I GO THE TOWERS WERE
HIT AND I GO WE ARE HEADING
DOWN THERE.
HE SAID WELL THE PENTAGON
WAS HIT.
I SAID HOW DO YOU KNOW?
I'M ON THE PHONE WITH THE
PENTAGON.
WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT?
>> I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT
RIGHT BEFORE WE GOT INTO THE
BUILDING THAT BERNIE KERIK
WHO YOU JUST HAD ON HAD SET
UP WITH COMMUNICATIONS
EQUIPMENT.
SO I GOT THERE I RUSHED DOWN
TO PETE GANSY, WHO WAS THE
CHIEF, RUNNING THE FIRE.
I PUT BERNIE AND HIM
TOGETHER SO THEY MAKE SURE
THE RIGHT FIREFIGHTERS AND
POLICE OFFICERS WERE THERE I
ASKED BERNIE TO SET UP AN
OFFICE FOR US.
BECAUSE THE PHONES WEREN'T
WORKING.
CELL PHONES WEREN'T WORKING
100 PERCENT.
SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
OPENED UP AN OFFICE FOR US.
AND I WENT INTO THE OFFICE.
AS I WAS WALKING INTO THE
OFFICE SOMEBODY SAID WE
THINK THE PENTAGON WAS HIT.
SOMEBODY YELLED OUT THE
SERIOUS TOWER.
BRIAN: CHICAGO?
>> THE FIRST THING DID I
WHEN I GOT THERE CALLED THE
WHITE HOUSE AND ASKED FOR
PRESIDENT BUSH AND GOT
CHRIS, KARL ROVE'S DEPUTY.
I SAID CHRIS, HAS THE
PENTAGON BEEN HIT?
HE SAID AFFIRMATIVE.
THAT MILITARY LANGUAGE THAT
PUT -- OH MY GOD, WE ARE AT
WAR.
I KNEW NOW TWO PLANES HAD
HIT.
I KNEW WE WERE UNDER A
TERRORIST ATTACK.
BRIAN: YOU KNEW IT WASN'T
ALL BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN.
>> IMMEDIATELY WHEN IT WAS A
TERRORIST ATTACK I KNEW IT
WAS AL QAEDA.
BECAUSE WE HAD THAT
INTELLIGENCE IN THE CITY FOR
THE CITY COUPLE YEARS.
WE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE AN
ATTACK DECEMBER 31st,
1999.
ALMOST CANCELLED NOE NEW
YEAR'S EVE CELEBRATION THAT
YEAR.
I THINK ONE WAS CANCELLED
ONE OF THE CITIES, SEATTLE
OR SOMETHING.
AND SO WE WERE -- WE WERE
READY FOR IT.
WE WEREN'T -- NEVER
ANTICIPATED AIRPLANES BEING
USED AS MISSILES.
STEVE: RUDY, THAT'S ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WAS
DIFFERENT THE WORLD TRADE
CENTERS WERE STRUCK YEARS
EARLIER.
>> '93, THE YEAR BEFORE I
BECAME MAYOR.
STEVE: IN THAT CASE THERE
WAS ESSENTIALLY A CAR BOMB
DOWN IN THE BASEMENT.
>> FULLY EXPECTED THAT TO
HAPPEN AGAIN.
IN FACT I WAS SURPRISED IT
HAPPENED HAPPENED IN THE
SEVEN YEARS BEFORE THERE HAD
BEEN AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR
THREATS.
POLICE DEPARTMENT STOPPED
GUY HITTING A TOGGLE SWITCH
SHOT HIM.
WE WERE CLOSE TO IT.
NOT THAT TYPE.
STEVE: RUDY, WITH THAT
PARTICULAR STRIKE, EVERYBODY
STAYED AT THEIR DESK IN THE
WORLD TRADE CENTERED TOWERS.
AND THAT WAS THE MODE OF
OPERATION ON SEPTEMBER THE
11TH, 2001 AS WELL.
BECAUSE THE BELIEF WAS WE'RE
GOING TO SEND THE FIREMEN UP
TO YOU AND BRING YOU DOWN.
DON'T EVACUATE THE BUILDING.
>> THAT'S WHY ACTUALLY THE
FIREFIGHTERS PERFORMED THE
GREATEST EVACUATION IN
AMERICAN HISTORY.
BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST HEARD
HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE DEAD,
THE CALCULATION WAS 12,000.
THAT CALCULATION WAS BASED
ON PRETTY GOOD ESTIMATE OF
WHO WAS IN THE BUILDING AND
WHO COULD GET OUT IN THAT
PERIOD OF TIME.
PARTICULARLY WITH THE
CONFUSION YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT.
IF YOU READ THE 9/11 REPORT,
WHICH HAS CRITICISMS BUT I
WILL TELL YOU ONE THING IT
SAYS CLEARLY.
THEY TOOK OUT ALMOST
100 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE
CAPABLE OF TAKING OUT.
WHICH MEANS THEY TOOK OUT
THE PEOPLE PETE GANZY TOLD
ME THEY COULD TAKE OUT.
WHEN I WENT UP TO HIM I SAW
A MAN JUMP FROM THE 100TH
FLOOR.
STATE OF SHOCK.
YOU REALIZE IT A COUPLE DAYS
LATER.
I SAW THE MAN SPLATTER ON
THE GROUND.
I WENT UP TO PETE AND I SAID
PETE, CAN WE GET UP THERE
WITH A HELICOPTER?
AND PETE SAID MY GUYS CAN
GET EVERYBODY BELOW THE
FIRE.
HE LOOKED AT ME LIKE STEEL
EYES LIKE, MAYOR, DON'T PUSH
ME.
I'M GOING TO GET MY MEN
KILLED UP THERE I LOOKED UP
AND REALIZED WHY THE FLAMES
SHOOT OUT OF WINDOW.
YOU PUT A HELICOPTER
ANYWHERE NEAR THERE BOOM
IT'S GOING TO BLOW.
AINSLEY: SOME THOUGHTS GOING
THROUGH OUR MIND THIS
MORNING.
SAW ROBB O'NEIL AT THE
MEMORIAL.
IS HE WALKING THROUGH THE
MUSEUM.
HE ENDS WITH THE SHOT OF THE
SHIRT THAT HE WAS WEARING
WHEN HE WAS ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE WORLD KILLING
THE MAN WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE
FOR THIS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KHALID
SHEIKH MOHAMMED HE IS NOW
GOING TO TRIAL 20 YEARS
LATER.
I WAS TALKING TO A FRIEND OF
MINE LAST NIGHT.
TALKING TO A FRIEND OF MY
LAST NIGHT, RUDY, SHE SAID
HER HUSBAND WAS IN THE
BUILDING, ONE OF THE TOWERS.
HE GOT OUT.
BUT HE LOST SO MANY FRIENDS
THAT DAY.
SHE SAID WHEN YOU REPORT
TOMORROW, SHE SAID TELL THE
STORY OF 9/11 BUT ALSO TELL
THE STORY OF THE HEROES.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE HEROES,
HEROIC STORIES THAT COME TO
MIND.
>> YOU JUST DID STEPHEN
SILER EMBLEMATIC OF ALL OF
THEM.
HE RAN TO THE FIRE.
I WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER
HERO.
SAVED EVERYBODY AT MORGAN
STANLEY I BELIEVE IT IS.
THE DAY AFTER I CALLED UP
THE CEO MORGAN STANLEY AFTER
CALLING I THOUGHT THEY HAD
LOST ABOUT 400 PEOPLE.
THREE PEOPLE.
FOUR PEOPLE.
THE HEAD OF SECURITY.
WHO VOLUNTEERED FOR THE
VIETNAM WAR, BECAME AN
AMERICAN CITIZEN,
VOLUNTEERED FOR THE VIETNAM
WAR AND GOT EVERY SINGLE
PERSON OUT BY GOING INTO
THEIR DOORS.
HALF GOT OUT.
THE OTHER HALF WAS SITTING
THERE CONFUSED.
GET OUT.
OUT.
THAT'S WHAT HE DID IN THE
AMOUNT OF TIME THAT HE HAD
BEFORE HE DIED.
BRIAN: COUPLE OF THINGS COME
TO MIND.
NUMBER ONE, THERE IS A
REPORT TODAY IN THE NEW
REPORT TODAY IN THE "EW
REPORT TODAY IN THE "NEW
YORK POST" THAT RICHARD
MINUTE TER CHRONICLED BIN
LADEN AND WHAT HE WAS UP TO.
NOT ONLY IS KHALID SHEIKH
MOHAMMED SITTING AT GITMO AS
A MARTYR HE WROTE DOWN THE
FLIGHT NUMBERS OF THE
AIRPLANES ON A PIECE OF
PAPER, MADE AIRPLANE AND
THREW IT AT ONE OF THE
FAMILY MEMBERS AS THEY SAT
AT GITMO AT HIS HEARING.
HOW DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL
THAT THERE IS SO LITTLE --
>> I PROBABLY CANNOT
DESCRIBE IT.
IF I DESCRIBED IT, PROBABLY
EMBARRASS MYSELF.
STEVE: WHY HASN'T IT TAKEN
THIS LONG.
>> THE ANGER IS TREMENDOUS.
ALL THE TIME THAT I WAS
THERE FOR THE FOUR MONTHS
THAT I WATCHED THE RECOVERY
EFFORT.
AND WATCHED THE BODIES BEING
CARRIED OUT AND WENT TO
100 -- I DON'T KNOW, A LOT
OF FUNERALS.
THE ANGER WAS TREMENDOUS.
WHEN I SAW PRESIDENT BUSH
FOR THE FIRST TIME AND HE
GOT OFF THE HELICOPTER, I
WAS WITH GOVERNOR PA TACKY.
HE GREETED THE GOVERNOR AND
CAME UP TO ME.
VERY FAMOUS PICTURE BACK OF
MY HEAD LIKE THAT.
HE SAYS TO ME RUDY, WHAT CAN
I DO?
WHEN YOU GET BIN LADEN LET
ME KILL HIM OR I MIGHT HAVE
SAID EXECUTE HIM.
I THINK I WAS THINKING AS A
LAWYER.
I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT AND I
COULD TRY THE CASE.
I HAD DONE THAT FOR TWO
NAZIS.
I ONLY HAD TWO CAPITAL CASES
IN MY CAREER AND BOTH OF
THEM WERE NAZIS.
ONE HAD KILLED 7,000 PEOPLE.
ANOTHER HAD KILLED 12,000
PEOPLE.
CAPITAL CASE IS EASY LIKE
THAT.
THIS GUY WOULD HAVE BEEN --
ALTHOUGH MAYBE YOU KEEP HIM
ALIVE AND GET INFORMATION.
BRIAN: KHALID SHEIKH
MOHAMMED WAS THE MASTER
MIND.
>> IT'S ABSURD.
THE POINT I WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE IS THAT THOSE
FIREFIGHTERS, THE POLICE
OFFICERS AND LOTS OF
CIVILIANS WILL NEVER KNOW
ABOUT LIKE RICK.
I JUST USE RICK AS AN
EXAMPLE.
I CAN GIVE YOU 20 OTHER
STORIES LIKE THAT.
ELDERLY MAN, PEOPLE GETTING
ON THE ELEVATOR.
AND HE SAYS NO, NO, NO.
HE LOOKS AT THEM AND SAYS TO
ABOUT 40 PEOPLE ON THE
ELEVATOR WHOM I PROBABLY
TALKED TO FIVE.
HE SAYS NO, I HAVE ALREADY
LIVED MY LIFE.
YOU ARE ALL YOUNGER.
AND HE LET THE ELEVATOR
CLOSE AND THEN THE BUILDING.
BRIAN: THERE IS A LOT OF
SURVIVOR'S GUILT.
>> I DEAL WITH IT WITH SOME
FRIENDS OF MINE.
I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE.
I SHOULD HAVE -- BERNIE CAN
TELL YOU THIS.
WE WERE ON THIS SIDE OF THE
BILLING TWO AND A HALF
BLOCKS AWAY.
IF YOU ARE ON THAT SIDE OF
THE BUILDING TWO AND A HALF
BLOCKS AWAY YOU WOULDN'T BE
HERE TO DESCRIBE.
WE DIDN'T DETERMINE HOW THE
BUILDING WAS GOING TO COME
DOWN.
IT CAME DOWN IT, IMPLODED,
BUT IT SLIGHTLY WENT A
LITTLE BIT TO THE SOUTH.
, WHICH BY THE WAY, IS WHAT
PETE GANZY TOLD ME.
ONE OF THE THINGS HE TOLD ME
AND BERNIE IS TELL ALL THESE
PEOPLE TO GO NORTH AND GET
THE -- OUT OF HERE.
BECAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE,
WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE RUNNING
AWAY.
YOU CAN SEE A FEW SHOTS, IF
YOU LOOK CAREFULLY OF PEOPLE
JUST STANDING THERE THEY ARE
COMING OUT.
BRIAN: AND WATCHING.
>> DANGEROUS BEFORE THE
BUILDINGS CAME DOWN.
I SAW PEOPLE HIT WITH DEBRIS
QUITE POSSIBLE THAT FATHER
JUDGE WAS KILLED THAT WAY
WITH DEBRIS WHILE HE WAS
MINISTERING TO SOMEBODY.
BEFORE THE BUILDING CAME
DOWN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW
MANY WERE KILLED OUTSIDE.
SOME WERE KILLED BY DEAD
BODIES.
SOME WERE KILLED BY DEBRIS.
BUT SOME PEOPLE WERE JUST
STANDING THERE IN HARM'S WAY
MESMERIZED BY THE FIRE.
WHICH HAPPENS AT FIRES.
IT'S A THING FIREFIGHTERS
KNOW.
YOU WANT THOSE PEOPLE OUT OF
THERE BECAUSE HE THOUGHT
THEY WOULD BE HURT.
THERE IS ALSO BLOCKING THE
ABILITY OF HIM GETTING
TRUCKS IN AND AND OUT.
AT THAT POINT HE THOUGHT HE
WAS GOING TO BE FIGHTING THE
FIRE ALL DAY.
PEOPLE ASKED ME DID THEY
KNOW IT WOULD IMPLODE THAT
WAY?
I SAID NO.
BECAUSE THE CHIEF SAID TO ME
AND THIS MAN HAD FOUGHT
4,000 FIRES, PROBABLY FOUGHT
MORE HIGH RISE FIREFIGHTERS
IN AMERICA MAYBE ANYBODY IN
THE WORLD GIVEN THE SKY
SCRAPERS IN THE CITY.
HIGH RISE FIRES ARE YOU NEED
TO BE A BRAIN SURGEON AND
ATOMIC FIZZ CYST TO KNOW HOW
TO FIGHT A FIRE LIKE THAT.
HE SAID GET ME.
GET THE GUYS RIGHT AWAY.
GET I TOLD TOMI GET THE GUYS
RIGHT AWAY.
I HAVE TO RELIEVE THESE GUYS
VERY QUICKLY.
WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE
FOREVER.
WHAT HE MEANT WAS THE
BUILDING WAS GOING TO COME
DOWN AND COME DOWN IN STAGES
THE WAY OTHER BUILDINGS COME
DOWN.
AINSLEY: DO YOU EVER HAVE
MOMENTS LISTENING TO THESE
STORIES THAT ROB O'NEILL
TALKED ABOUT A SINGLE MOM
WHO HAD TWO KIDS I BELIEVE
HE SAID AND SHE JUMPED.
YOU KNOW SHE IS DESPERATE
LIKE NO MOM WOULD DO THAT.
SHE WAS HOLDING HER SKIRT
DOWN.
WANTED TO DIE IN DIGNITY.
HOW DO YOU --
>> IF I HAVE A RECURRING
IMAGE AND I HAVE A LOT,
PARTICULARLY WHEN I GO THERE
BECAUSE THEN I SEE PLACES
WHERE I SAW -- I SAW, YOU
KNOW, TERRY HAT IN HIS TRUCK
OR WHERE I SAW CHIEF GANSY
FOR THE LAST TIME OR FATHER
JUDGE, I SHOOK HIS HAND AND
HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID
HE ALWAYS TEASED ME.
THE MAN WAS THE FUNNIEST MAN
THAT EVER LIVED, PRIEST,
CATHOLIC FRANCISCAN PRIEST.
WE HAD A LITTLE JOKE FATHER
PRAY FOR ME.
HE LOOK AT ME IT WOULD BE A
LOT MORE EFFECTIVE IF YOU
DID.
NO JOKING.
FATHER, PRAY FOR US, I SAID.
HE SAID I AM.
IT SENT CHILLS UP MY MIND.
THIS IS ANOTHER MAN HAD BEEN
AT A THOUSAND FIREFIGHTERS.
HE WAS A FIREFIGHTER'S
CHAPLIN.
RIGHT NEXT TO IT WHY HE
DIED.
BRIAN: ARE YOU HEADING
DOWNTOWN.
>> SURE IN A LITTLE WHILE.
GO THERE AND SEE ALL THE
FAMILIES AND THE NAMES.
IT'S A MIXED -- IT'S THE
SADDEST DAY AND HAPPIEST DAY
BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH
BRAVERY.
AMERICA WAS AT ITS BEST FOR
WEEKS.
STEVE: WE WERE ALL UNITED
FOR A WHILE.
>> YOU GO BACK AND SAY I
WISH WE COULD RECAPTURE HALF
OF THAT.
BRIAN: WE WILL.
>> PEOPLE CHEERING FOR
PRESIDENT BUSH.
GOING UP THE WEST SIDE
CHEERING FOR HIM.
HE HAD A LITTLE SMILE ON HIS
FACE.