I am 65 and a half.
I'm 74.
I'll be 70 in October.
There were no out artists that I was aware of
in high school. There weren't any out people.
I had no idea that there were even, uh, you know, that there was
another culture, or another existence.
I thought everybody had to be straight, which was scary.
Who?
"Kuwoko?" "Kiyoko."
From the show?
Oh.
Hayley Kiyoko. I like the title. It looks like Mary's old bicycle.
See, they're with her boyfriend, but they're attracted
to each other.
Oh, that was fast. This is what the young girls are doing today, though. That's why they decide to try it.
Cause my daughter did that.
She told me. She tried it and didn't like it? She tried it.
Was she - I don't know how they don't like it.
See how girls get along? It's just -
I think it's kind of too bad they were smoking. Sharing their lipstick.
See? Look, too rough. He's gonna force it.
No, she's gonna show dominance. Yeah, you know.
See, that's how I look at girls too. They hug,
they hold hands, they, you know. Look at this.
Guys always ruin it! Sorry!
Woah.
She showed him. Ooh, damn.
See, we should have had stuff like this when we were younger.
We would have known, you know?
Well, I think we knew because it was happening to us.
Your boyf- you know, if you had a boyfriend, they were doing the same - well, you got to the age too, where
it's like, you're supposed to to have a boyfriend but you don't want one.
That's how I was, I, I just knew I didn't like guys.
Aww, she's happy!
That's real. That's real. That's very good.
I'm glad they showed her fighting, fighting back.
I like that the women were strong in there.
See, I'm, I don't think they should be playing with boys at all. I don't think the boys should be around at all.
You know? I think the women should just be with themselves
because then they don't have to deal with these negative reactions.
Oh, she's cute! She's very cute.
She's a boss lady, that's what she is to me.
I like boss ladies. Oh!
She would make me like lipstick lesbians, ok?
Which I thought were fluffy, but she's not.
Go girl!
Kinda reminds me of me when I was younger.
Without the blonde hair.
Oh my god. Stop it.
She's in charge, man. She knows what she wants.
She wants her!
Yes! Oh!
Cute. That was really nice.
The interaction between the two women is really good. I like that.
That also makes me kinda understand the younger lesbians better,
because I'm in the old fashioned mode of like,
the roles, and now I see it.
You know, they, they kinda have the same roles, almost, but
they're expressing themselves better.
It's not so rigid. I like Hayley, I'm in love!
She's cute! She's awesome. She's like Ellen with long hair.
You know? I, I view this as important stuff.
You know? I mean, it's fun and it's entertaining, but it's also important, you know.
And I can see, uh, how, how you would say,
you know, she's a groundbreaker, you know.
She's, she's putting herself out there.
You know, there's a lot of people who have done that, and some, it's just ruined their careers.
It's very courageous of her to do this.
If I were in her shoes,
if I would take that chance of ruining a career that has just barely started
with coming out like that. Well, who paved the way for her?
People like Ellen. Yeah, look what happened! Right when Ellen first came out,
her career went into the toilet.
And, and, other people, I've, I've always admired the people that were out
in the media.
Because that's why we have gay rights today, is because of people like this. Right.