i'm under a pretty restrictive plant count in my home growing so at home i'm trying to maximize
my plant count so that i can have enough medicine because i need a lot of medicine because i use rso
i've read white papers studies on cloning and they say that from what i'm seeing the information i'm
seeing the highest chances for a cutting to strike roots is usually on we need 150 plants per run
we take 200 to 250 cuts the very best two to three of those cuts out of the 250 are the new miles
how from every mother plant how long do you allow the mother plant to rest before you go through
a new cycle of pulling clones and then how many cycles do you go through in total before getting
rid of her have you ever wondered how to maintain mother plants and clones well let's go and get
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every video so russ from spartangro please you've been on the channel already uh once before talking
about politics let's go ahead and get into cultivating the plant and maintaining your
mother plants because personally this is something over the years and it's really probably because
where where i was introduced to the market we we actually went through the process of not having
mom plants and we would use our our veg plants take one or two clones off of them throw them
into firing from those take those and and get them into we were saving space but it also we were only
able to maintain uh one or two strains by doing that you know just through commercial growing and
a lot of times people would ask do you have this strain do you have that strain and we didn't have
we have the ability to produce clones and go into major production but we didn't really have the
ability to turn the operation because we didn't have reliable strains or mother plants so i would
once again love to get into this conversation with you because this is something that i don't
talk about very much on this channel i love this conversation too because i actually don't talk
about it a lot myself either um but it's super important and there's two strategies really in my
way of doing things and it depends on my situation so at home it's exactly what you described where
i'm under a pretty restrictive plant count in my home growing so at home i'm trying to maximize my
plant count so that i can have enough medicine because i need a lot of medicine because i use
rso and that takes a lot of medicine to create and um so what i do there is if i have mother
plants that's going against my plant count so i do what you just suggested as before i am going to
flip from vegetative to flowering i'll just take cuttings off of those plants and make clones out
of them and then flip them into flower and those plants won't count those cuttings won't count as
plants to me in my state until they get rooted um and that's how i get around
not get a round plant count that's why i maximize plant count but at the commercial setting it's
a whole different thing we have a you know 1500 plant count license just the adult use side so in
our space that we have to grow in we really don't even have enough space to utilize all 1500 so for
us it makes way more sense to have mother plants because then also the restrictions of regulation
in the metric system is is we had to bring out our genetics in at the beginning and then we
can't bring in outside genetics after that so to store genetics you have to either keep seed packs
or mother plants or wait can you explain that a little bit more can you explain what you just said
like once you bring your genetics into so you mean when you go through the licensing process you have
to put what genetics you're where you're getting it from or where genetics are coming from no so
metric is this the the tracking system and when you start up there's no way for you to
well when we started there was no previous there's no place for you to get genetics
the only thing that's allowed in our regulations here in the state is for you to get genetics from
other licensed commercial facilities in the state of michigan because they want it to be tracked
so when you start your facility you you're allowed to bring in x amount of genetics
state what they all are but then from then on out any genetics that are brought into your
facility have to be tracked through metric they should be able to track it by a metric number
back to the facility that you got that strain from so i don't know it's just stupid regulation
it's it's dumb i don't know why that's the regulation but that requires moms to exist
moms or seeds yes interesting so but the important thing is i've seen i've read white papers
studies on cloning and they say that i didn't read all of them i ran a couple so i'm sure there's a
lot more out there but from what i'm seeing the information i'm seeing the highest chances for
a cutting to strike roots is usually on younger or newer growth and so really i don't recommend
to keep a mother plant much you know i i hear of people keeping mother plants for years and years
and years and years and i think that's a mistake i think it's really important to reset your moms
after maybe four months at the longest and the reason i say that is is i just want to have the
healthiest starts possible the longer a plant is alive the longer it has chance to pick up viruses
as long as it has to pick up diseases pests all kinds of things like that and all a lot of those
things can be transferred into cutting so that's why tissue culture is getting so popular right
now is because the whole idea of tissue culture is it gets it removes a lot of those built up viruses
diseases and it gets that vigor back in the plant also costs extremely a lot of money right now
but so just the way we've been doing it for hundreds and hundreds of years is you just reset
your minds you just take the best cuttings that you can off of your plant i usually take it we
take a mother plant that's probably well we've had them as much as 9 10 foot tall but we grow them in
10 gallon pots cocoa because we do still have to conserve space cocoa and synthetic nutrients
with mom plants runs so good and plus everything in the whole place is ran that way so there's no
difference the plants aren't seeing any difference they're not switching mediums they're all staying
the same but as long as you are if you're getting ready to take cuttings from your mother plant
i would reduce your ppms going in what you're feeding your plant for maybe a week before you
take your cuttings i reduced it by about half you don't want your a ton of nutrient in those plants
when you take those cuts because it'll um strike roots better if you do that and uh if there's
already a bunch of stored nutrition in the in the plant it just takes longer to root i don't know if
it lives off its stored nutrition or what but that's how i work it out in my head
if you're resetting the mom would it be uh mainly beneficial too as well to do like a mary stem type
of a clone so what we do the easiest way to do it is for us is we need 150 plants per run we take
200 to 250 cuts the very best two to three of those cuts out of the 250 are the new moms
so when we when we root them and we plant them in the fir in a one gallon pot after that the very
once we go from the one gallon we go to a three gallon that's the final pot when we're making that
decision from one to three gallon we pick the very best three then and those are the new mom plants
and that way we always get the absolute best plants as moms
and then the the next best are the ones that go down into the the flower room and then we just
call the the leftovers and what if you do that i'm sorry i was just saying when you take clones
if you have the ability plant count wise to take extra clones always do so and pick your best ones
because there's always going to be some clones that aren't as good as the other and you want the
very best to continue that health all the way through and never it never hurts to just do a
little because like if you're going to just pick three out of them and call all the rest i mean
no one's gonna bust down your door and be like everybody you have all these little babies here
exactly and most states have like at the commercial level even here at this state you know
at home it's if it has a root it's a plant but in the commercial level it's how tall the plant is
so eight inches so it's not even a plant count thing for us until it gets over eight inches tall
yeah so yeah like you said we could just pull as many as we need it doesn't matter
what are you going into we right now we're using uh fluoroflex we used to use root riot uh
peat plugs now we're using floraflex the problem with machines and i'm actually testing another one
right now i'm texting the ic funnel which is a dwc style cloner which may be a better option but
uh turtle cloners are terrible i'm sorry when you have your pump in the water it heats up the water
and unless you have a way to chill that water you're just gonna be growing bacteria and
you might have one two three good runs but eventually it catches up to if you don't get
it 100 clean you're gonna start having less good results and at the commercial level that's just
not acceptable and when we can just fill up trays and put them on a a table or i mean on we have
them on racks on the side of the our bedroom we're not even having a light over it's just the spill
spillover light from our veg it's very passive takes no power if we lose power our clones are
still alive it's just a foolproof method that we do that the only thing that i can complain about
that i'd say the downside of doing it the way we do it is it takes some time to check every single
clone to make sure that it has the right amount of moisture in it every day but uh you know if
you had a machine that was spraying water that's not an issue they're all getting hit so from cut
to transplant from its plug how how many days on average i would say on average anywhere from
seven to fourteen and for us and after fourteen days you normally get rid of all those plants
does it take too long probably already dead no what we'll do is when we go for when we're
doing our first transplant so when we're taking rooting cutting and put them into one gallon pots
any of the extras and when we mean extras is we're picking up these we're picking up these cuttings
and we're looking at it if it has like one root sticking out of it it doesn't get transplanted
it's got to have a good amount of roots and those get all set aside into a tray
and then uh if we had enough to fill the pots we needed good we can toss those other ones but if we
had five pots that needed and we had to put in like one root clones we save all the other ones
just be just in case those ones don't those ones that were kind of weakest around the border just
in case they don't make it we'll keep those other ones in the clone dome for another week two weeks
just to make sure that the little weak ones will make it if not we if they don't make it we pop
them out and we'll have a replacement from the clones that we saved would it be okay if i send
you out a bottle of drops bounce so you could add it to your water and see if you if there's any
more better results with your cloning uh you could if you'd like to that's fine yeah i'd love to
i really would yeah because really what we use uh right now for our clones is the exact same
nutrient water that we water our bedroom with we don't we don't even dilute it down are you
using city water or what is your water source we have an roi we have an rl system that's
made by hans h-a-n-s and if you're a commercial grower i would really really really look into
those guys they make life so easy it's a service where they actually service the whole thing so
you don't even own the unit i'm sure you could probably buy it from them i'm not sure but uh
they come out and for the same cost yes there's a service so they put their equipment in and
they just keep it running you don't touch it if you ever have an issue you call them and they
fix it um it has a screen on it that tells you the output is the fastest i mean it was
i mean the output of the ro was faster than turning our water on just turning our water
spigot on that full blast the output of the ro was faster than that i can't remember what the gallons
per minute was but it's it's insanity so we have this one auto system that's doing the entire shop
so as you're using your roll and you're in using city water and you're if you're on a water meter
uh an road system could get kind of expensive no no no no no no we actually our water that
our water bill is not expensive at all there's a lot of water in michigan yeah surrounded by it
i know i'm right i i'm in back so i'm not part of youtube oh there you go yeah we actually know our
for some reason our water bill is really good so i don't i don't we have no complaints there
municipality water for sure but uh yeah we filter it through our ro how many mother
plants does it take to get 250 clones one to two we just go gigantic plants i can show you uh
if you go on my instagram uh there's pictures i mean they're a little bit far back now but uh
you won an actual contest from powerslide they did a big mama plant they called big
mama contest or whatever we drew the biggest one like this sorry quick question no it's okay one
more quick question on that how from every mother plant how long do you allow the mother plant to
rest before you go through a new cycle of pulling clones and then how many cycles do you go through
in total before getting rid of her so it's it's there's like everything with cannabis there's no
answer there the best answer is is by the the speed of their growth we have a space for our
mother plants and we just when we do are deciding on what are we going to take cuts off next the
first factor is what's the biggest plant we have because that's going to probably be going in there
and then we have to determine are we going to do a whole because each flower room although it has 150
plants it has three tables in it so those 150 are actually three tables of 50. so sometimes we'll
do a mono crop where all the tables are the same plant it's all the same plant in the entire room
sometimes we'll break that down and do you know if we didn't have a plant that's big enough to do 150
we didn't feel like we could do 50 from this plant and keep it on one table 50 on another plant and
50 of another we're actually been playing with that so that we can supply our suppliers with
three varieties instead of one every harvest and we have six flower rooms so we harvest every two
weeks so josh yeah that's very important in the retail market to have a good we are a priority me
in the uh the medical industry it's a hindrance because i can't i have to be i have to produce
something that's constant always the same every week uh so i'm doing three strains and i do
one room one strain and uh i concentrate on that especially that when i when i grow longer i grow
the strain in my facility it adapts and gets better every harvest yeah i miss being able
to do that when we have some strains that we've had for a while and we're learning them and i
call it dialing in the strain but i know exactly what you're talking about i love dialing in a
strain so i just know it like the back of my hand and i don't have to think anymore i love that
for our channel what's your instagram for our channel what's your instagram oh my instagram is
spartangrown all one word no spaces do you grow any different at home than you do at uh at work
by chance absolutely would you mind sharing it because they hear your own theories rather than
just uh no i love i love growing cannabis in every way shape and form i can just to see how it does
and how it reacts and and different strains are better in different medias and all this but so at
work we're in cocoa we're growing synthetically we're using athena nutrients at home i grow
in or in three gallon pots is what we're flowering in that work at home i grow in sip containers
which stands for sub-irrigated planters which means the water is underneath and it wicks up
into the bed i grow organically i don't throw my soil away i tend to just top dress and re-amend
and keep rolling with it that's my favorite way to grow i love organics i love how easy it is for me
by about 2017 that's when i had enough blogging and i and i started to realize that the content
of video content on youtube was lacking and so my very first youtube video was
was me talking to the camera neck down but it was a guy in front of the camera who
who people could hold accountable and i try to just talk about growing