JACKIE: THANK YOU,
EDWARD LAWRENCE.
JOINING US NOW, HOUSE BUDGET
COMMITTEE MEMBER, CONGRESSWOMAN
ASHLEY HINSON AND WESTERN ENERGY
ALLIANCE PRESIDENT KATHLEEN
SKCAMA.
GOOD TO SEE YOU BOTH.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US.
CONGRESSWOMAN, START WITH YOU
FIRST.
THERE IS A LOT OF OUTRAGE AMONG
US ESPECIALLY FROM OIL PRODUCING
STATES AND ENERGY WORKERS GOING
TO VENEZUELA ALLOWING CHEVRON TO
PUMP OIL THERE TO ENRICH THE
MADURO REGIME SAYING WHY AREN’T
WE CHANGING POLICY HERE AND WHY
ARE WE NOT INVESTING IN OUR OWN
FUTURE?
YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> THAT IS THE QUESTION
AMERICANS ARE ASKING, JACKIE.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
PRESIDENT BIDEN IS WAGING WAR ON
AMERICAN ENERGY FROM THE DAY HE
TOOK OFFICE.
WE’VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN.
HE FAVORING DIRTY OIL FROM
DICTATORS OVER HOMEGROWN ENERGY
SOLUTIONS.
WHETHER FIVE DOLLAR A GALLON
GAS.
WHETHER INCREASED COSTS YOU FACE
TO HEAT AND COOL YOUR HOME OR
ROLLING BLACKOUTS WE’RE NOW
EXPERIENCING OR POSSIBLY
EXPERIENCING IN THIS COUNTRY,
THAT IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE
PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HIS
ADMINISTRATION AND THEIR WAR ON
AMERICAN ENERGY.
JACKIE: YEAH.
WE’VE GOT A TEAR FROM FORS.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN
INTERESTING ARTICLE.
THE HEADLINE BIDEN’S ENERGY
POLICY CONFUSION CONTINUES WITH
THE VENEZUELAN OIL DECISION.
THE AUTHOR SAYS THIS IS
CONTINUATION OF THE CHRONIC
STATE OF CONFUSION WITHIN THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WHEN IT
COMES TO ENERGY POLICY.
KATHLEEN, I RESPECTFULLY
DISAGREE WITH THE AUTHOR HERE.
I DON’T THINK THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION IS CONFUSED AT
ALL.
MANY PEOPLE MIGHT BE CONFUSED AS
THEY’RE WATCHING THIS PLAY OUT
BUT I THINK THE PRESIDENT’S
AGAIN TODAY IS TO GO GREEN AND
GO GREEN AS FAST AS HE POSSIBLY
CAN.
AND HE REALIZES HE HAS A
SHORTFALL IN SUPPLY, THAT
AMERICANS ARE UNHAPPY ABOUT IT.
HE TRIED TO GET SAUDI ARABIA TO
MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.
THEY SAID WE WILL NOT HELP YOU
OUT HERE.
THEY ALLOWED CHEVRON TO PUMP OIL
IN VENEZUELA QUICKLY AS A
BANDAID TO TRY TO GET OIL BACK
ON THE MARKET BUT HAVING SAID
THAT HE COULD ALSO CONTROL WHAT
IS HAPPENING THERE AND PULL THE
PLUG AS SOON AS HE WANTS TO AS
WELL?
>> WELL I DO THINK IT’S A BIT OF
CONFUSION THOUGH, RIGHT?
BECAUSE THERE IS THIS DESIRE TO
TRANSITION QUICKLY TO NO FOSSIL
FUELS BUT WHEN THE VOTERS START
TO PUT PRESSURE ON HIM OR THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC IN GENERAL
BECAUSE PRICES ARE TOO HIGH,
THEN THEY HAVE TO SCRAMBLE TO GO
TO OPEC AND SAUDI ARABIA INSTEAD
OF COMING TO TEXAS AND COLORADO
AND NEW MEXICO.
JACKIE: I SEE WHAT YOU’RE SAYING
THAT POINT IS WELL-TAKEN.
LOOK, THIS WASN’T A WELL-THOUGHT
OUT PLAN AND WE’VE BEEN SAYING
THAT SINCE PRESIDENT BIDEN TOOK
OFFICE AND HE REVERSES THE
EXTENSION OF THE KEYSTONE XL
PIPELINE.
MANY PEOPLE SAID WE APPLAUD YOUR
AMBITION TO GO GREEN.
WE SUPPORT YOU.
WE’LL TRY TO HELP YOU DO IT BUT
IT WILL TAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
TIME TO DO IT, CONGRESSMAN.
YOU CAN’T THROW THE BABY OUT
WITH THE BATH WATER WHICH IS
WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DOES
HERE.
LISTEN TO THE ENERGY WORKERS IN
THIS COUNTRY.
WE GOT A MONTAGE.
COMMENT AFTER THAT.
>> OUR LIFE IS WRAPPED IN
PIPELINE.
THAT IS ALL WE HAVE EVER DONE
AND ALL WE KNOW.
>> TO SEE BIDEN RESCIND THAT
PERMIT IT IS A LITERALLY A KICK
IN THE STOMACH.
>> HE DOES NOT CARE IF HE DID
CARE KEYSTONE WOULD BE GOING.
>> BIDEN ADMINISTRATION RAN ON
BUILD BACK BETTER THAT IS, FROM
WHERE I’M STANDING THAT IS CRAP.
I THINK HIS NEW SLOGAN SHOULD BE
BUTCHERING BOOMING BUSINESS.
IT IS, LITERALLY PULLED THE RUG
OUT FROM UNDER US AND KILLED OUR
ECONOMY.
JACKIE: CONGRESSWOMAN, THESE
PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE ALTERNATIVES.
THEY HAVE NO OTHER JOB WAITING
FOR THEM.
THE PRESIDENT PROMISES TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF GREEN ENERGY JOBS
THAT HAVE YET TO MATERIALIZE AND
THEY’RE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW?
>> WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THEM IS
THAT RAW EMOTION.
THEY REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
BLINDSIDED BY THESE DECISIONS
COMING FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION.
WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO, THEY ARE
IGNORING AGAIN, HOMEGROWN
SOLUTIONS, ENERGY PRODUCTION
RIGHT HERE AT HOME.
I’M FROM IOWA WHICH IS A ETHANOL
PRODUCING STATE.
WE SEND MOST OF OUR ETHANOL DOWN
TO TEX TO BLEND FUEL TO HELP
LOWER PRICES FOR IOWANS AND
AMERICANS.
THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON
LOOK TO OUR SOLUTIONS HERE AT
HOME.
NOT ONLY IS THIS AN AMERICAN
ENERGY INDEPENDENCE DECISION BUT
A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE FOR US
AS WELL.
YOU LOOK AROUND THE WORLD WHAT
WE’RE SEEING IN THE GEOPOLITICAL
ENVIRONMENT.
THAT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE FOR US.
WE’RE CLEARLY HEADED DOWN THE
WRONG PATH WITH THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION POLICIES.
JACKIE: WHATEER SEEING
GEOPOLITICALLY UNDERSCORES THE
IMPORTANCE OF ENERGY
INDEPENDENCE WHICH WE WERE
BEFORE THIS PRESIDENT CAME INTO
OFFICE.
ASHLEY, PRICE OF REGULAR, $3.52,
IT IS DOWN A BIT BUT STILL
HIGHER THAN WHERE WE WERE WHEN
BIDEN TOOK OFFICE.
THE DIESEL PRICE WHEN IT COMES
TO INFLATION.
IT IS OVER $5 A GALLON.
THERE IS CONCERN THAT WILL
INCREASE AS WE HEAD INTO THE
WINTER.
THAT SIGNALS TO ME WE HAVE
INFLATION AND SUPPLY CHAIN
PROBLEMS AS WELL.
AS THESE PRICES ARE COMING DOWN
THOUGH, THE ADMINISTRATION KEEPS
TOUTING IT LIKE SOMEHOW THEY
HAVE DONE THAT, RIGHT?
WE’RE REALLY SEEING LOCKDOWNS IN
CHINA WHICH IS A GOOD PORTION OF
THE DEMAND.
WE’RE ALSO SEEING CONSUMERS NOW
STARTING TO CHANGE THEIR
BEHAVIOR HERE IN OUR COUNTRY AS
A RESULT OF HIGHER PRICES ACROSS
THE BOARD FOR EVERYTHING.
>> YEAH, THOSE DIESEL PRICES ARE
REALLY CONCERNING BECAUSE THERE
IS REALLY NOT ANY GREAT SOLUTION
IN SIGHT FOR A WHILE.
BECAUSE OF ESG OR YOU KNOW,
PRESSURE TO DEFUND FOSSIL FUELS,
WE’RE DOWN ABOUT
1.1 MILLION-BARRELS OF REFINING
CAPACITY IN THE UNITED STATES
AND THAT’S ONE OF THE REASONS
THAT DIESEL STOCKS ARE QUITE
LOW, PARTICULARLY IN THE
NORTHEAST.
SO WE NEED TO MOVE TOWARDS A
SANE ENERGY POLICY WHERE WE
DON’T TRY TO DISCOURAGE FOSSIL
FUELS BUT RECOGNIZE THAT EVEN
BIDEN’S OWN DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
PROJECTS INCREASED OIL AND
NATURAL GAS CONSUMPTION THROUGH
THE YEAR 2050.
SO IF WE DO THINGS NOW TO
SUPPRESS REFINERIES AND
PIPELINES, IT IS GOING TO
INCREASE PRICES FOR CONSUMERS
AND IT IS NOT GOING TO BE
LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE.
JACKIE: I GOT IT.