BERNIE SANDERS WENT ON MORNING JOE TO ISSUE A WARNING TO PEOPLE
WHO MIGHT BE CONSIDERING VOTING FOR A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE
TO MAKE A STATEMENT INSTEAD OF FALLING IN LINE AND VOTING
FOR HILLARY CLINTON.
LET'S ROLL VIDEO 6.
I WAS A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE, I BEGAN MY CAREER
RUNNING AS A THIRD-PARTY, GETTING 2% OF THE VOTE, AND THEN
I GOT 1%, SO I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIRD-PARTY.
I'M THE
LONGEST-SERVING INDEPENDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE CONGRESS.
BUT
I THINK BEFORE YOU CAST A PROTEST VOTE -- BECAUSE EITHER
CLINTON OR TRUMP WILL BECOME PRESIDENT -- THINK HARD ABOUT
IT.
THIS IS NOT A GOVERNOR'S RACE, IT'S NOT A STATE
LEGISLATIVE RACE, THIS IS THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND I WILL SAY TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT THE
PROTEST VOTE, THINK ABOUT WHAT THE COUNTRY LOOKS LIKE, AND
WHETHER YOU ARE COMFORTABLE OF FOUR YEARS OF A TRUMP
PRESIDENCY.
AND ADDRESSING DOES IT FEEL LIKE YOU ARE GIVING UP IF YOU
ARE VOTING FOR HILLARY CLINTON?
HERE IS WHAT HE ALSO SAID.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST TO THOSE PEOPLE, LET US ELECT HILLARY
CLINTON AS PRESIDENT, AND THE DAY AFTER, LET US MOBILIZE
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE PROGRESSIVE AGENDA, WHICH BY THE
WAY WAS PASSED AS YOU KNOW IN THE DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM.
WE
WORKED VERY HARD ON THAT, THE MOST PROGRESSIVE PLATFORM IN THE
HISTORY OF AMERICAN POLITICS.
AND SAY TO SECRETARY COUSIN, LET US WORK TOGETHER TO
IMPLEMENT THAT PLATFORM, THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOT TO GO.
SO JIMMY, WHAT'S YOUR THEORY ON BERNIE STUMPING FOR HILLARY?
MY THEORY IS THAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF I'M RIGHT, I JUST THINK
I KNOW HOW I FEEL, SO IF PEOPLE LIKE ME, THE PEOPLE HE IS
SUPPOSED TO BE REACHING, FEEL LIKE I DO, IT'S BACKFIRING.
BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE, HOW COULD YOU GO AROUND FOR A
WHOLE YEAR POINTING OUT ALL THE THINGS THAT THIS REVOLUTION IS
TRYING TO WORK AGAINST, AND NOW GO ALL RIGHT, LET'S PUT THAT ON
THE BACK BURNER, WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS.
BECAUSE I HAVE TWO
THEORIES, I SAW CHRIS HAYES SAY THIS ON MSNBC THE OTHER NIGHT,
HE SAID I BELIEVE THAT IF DONALD TRUMP BECOMES PRESIDENT IT
DESTROYS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
AND EVERYBODY -- HE HAD ON THAT
GUY, I WILL FORGET HIS NAME, BEN FROM RED STATE WHO JUST DID A
MOVIE ABOUT TRUMP CALLED SOCIOPATH, HE AGREED, HE IS
TELLING PEOPLE, REPUBLICANS, THAT IF HILLARY CLINTON BECOMES
PRESIDENT THE NEXT DAY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY GOES RIGHT ON,
BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO COALESCE AGAINST.
IF TRUMP
BECOMES PRESIDENT IT FRACTURES THE REPUBLIC AND PARTY, THAT'S
WHY JOHN BOEHNER IS OUT, THAT'S WHY THEY HAD TO TWIST PAUL
RYAN'S ARM.
AND SOME PEOPLE SAY IF HE BECOMES PRESIDENT THEY
WILL BECOME A REGIONAL PARTY, THOUGH HAVE TO START OVER AGAIN.
AND THIS IS WHAT REALLY CRUMBLES THEM.
AND I AGREE WITH THAT,
BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW I THINK THAT IF TRUMP IS PRESIDENT THE
NATURAL COALITION AGAINST HIM COALESCES.
YOU GOT ALL THE
DEMOCRATS, ALL THE INDEPENDENTS, AND THE PURPLE STATE
REPUBLICANS.
PUSSY IS INCOMPETENT SO HE WON'T BE ABLE
TO GET HIS AGENDA IN.
BUT IF HILLARY IS PRESIDENT THERE WILL
PROBABLY BE GRIDLOCK BUT THE THINGS THAT WILL GET DONE WILL
BE THE THINGS THAT SPLIT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, LIKE RIGHT NOW
BARACK OBAMA IS PUSHING THE TPP AND HE'S A DEMOCRAT.
SO THE
WHOLE THING OF A THIRD-PARTY VOTE, THIS IS HOW I LOOK AT IT,
NO MATTER WHO BECOMES PRESIDENT I WILL HAVE TO FIGHT BOTH
PARTIES AGAINST THE TPP, BOTH PARTIES TO STOP FOREIGN WARS,
BOTH PARTIES TO REGULATE WALL STREET, BOTH PARTIES AGAINST A
SINGLE CARE HEALTHCARE, BOTH PARTIES TO REGULATE BIG PHARMA.
TO GET $15 MINIMUM WAGE IN SEATTLE THEY HAD TO FIGHT THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO GET THAT.
I'M SAYING PROGRESSIVELY THE
MOVEMENT OUTSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
I TOTALLY AGREE, THE ONLY PART I DISAGREE WITH BERNIE ON IS NOT
THAT WE WILL WAIT UNTIL DAY ONE TO PURSUE THE PURPOSE OF AGENDA,
LET'S PURSUE IT NOW.
LET'S PURSUE THE PROGRESSIVE AGENDA,
LET'S PURSUE IT ON DAY ONE, BUT I THINK THE MAIN PART YOU WHEN I
DISAGREE WITH ON, JIMMY, I THINK TRUMP IS TOO BIG A RISK TO TAKE.
YOU HAVE A NICE OUTLOOK ON IT, IF HE'S ELECTED PRESIDENT I HOPE
YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT THE OTHER WAY IT GOES IS, NO, HE'S A STRONG
MAN AND HE DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION OR OUR
FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND HE STARTS TO COALESCE POWER LIKE ALL
STRONGMEN DO AND HE BREAKS A BUNCH OF RULES AND NOBODY DOES
ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE MAKES A MUCH MORE RULES AND NOBODY DOES
ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW WE AREN'T THE
COUNTRY WE USED TO BE.
OOPS, THAT IS A MISS CALCULATION WE
DON'T RECOVER FROM.
SOME OF YOU THINK THAT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN, BUT
THERE ARE A LOT OF MOMENTS IN HISTORY WERE PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT
WILL NOT HAPPEN, AND THAT'S NOT A RISK I WANT TO TAKE WITH
AMERICA.
AND ABOUT THIRD PARTIES, I HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW
NOW THAN I DID A COUPLE OF ONCE AGO.
FIRST OF ALL, WHAT HAS BEEN
CONSISTENT IS IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ALL THE MEDIA INCLUDING US
TO COVER THE THIRD PARTIES BECAUSE DON'T ASSUME FOR THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT AND DON'T WANT.
GIVE IT TO THEM,
GIVE THEM INFORMATION AND LET THEM DECIDE.
SO I DID A STORY ON
JILL STEIN YESTERDAY, GIVING HER A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE PROPOSED
PARDON OF SNOWDEN AND MANNING, ETC., GARY JOHNSON I AGREE OR
DISAGREE WITH, WE COVER HIM AS MUCH AS WE CAN, I HAD A
CONVERSATION WITH JORDAN CHARITON YESTERDAY, LET'S COVER
GARY JOHNSON AND JILL STEIN MORE.
BUT THE PART I'VE CHANGED
ON IS THAT FOR SIX ONCE AGO I WOULD'VE SAID I THINK THEY HAVE
A REAL SHOT, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ELECTION WHERE IT
WOULDN'T COUNT THEM OUT.
EVEN AS LATE AS A MONTH AGO I THOUGHT
THERE WAS A CHANCE THAT GARY JOHNSON RISES SO MUCH THAT MAYBE
-- BEN AND I TALKED ABOUT IT -- MAYBE HE BEATS TRUMP IN SOME
STATES.
BUT IT DIDN'T TURN OUT THAT WAY, TRUMP ROSE UP, JOHNSON
IS WHERE HE WAS, THAT'S MONUMENTALLY UNFAIR, HE'S NOT IN
THE DEBATES, THE MEDIA DOESN'T COVER HIM, I GET IT.
BUT IN THE
LESS HERE'S WHERE WE ARE LESS THAN TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE
ELECTION SO IT LOOKS NOW LIKE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WIN SO NOW
IF YOU ARE IN A SWING STATE YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE.
YOU
CAN MAKE ANY CHOICE YOU LIKE, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO
ME OR JIMMY, YOU WILL MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND, BUT HAVING SAID
THAT, DON'T KID YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE NOT MAKING A
CHOICE, BECAUSE YOU ARE.
LOOK, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ THE CONSTITUTION AS TO WHY
THIS THIRD-PARTY STUFF DOESN'T WORK OUT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE HALF
OF THE ELECTORAL VOTES, AND THAT HAS CREATED A BINARY SYSTEM,
THAT HAS CREATED A TWO PARTY SYSTEM THAT WE HAVEN'T SHAKEN
FOR 240 YEARS.
SIXTY ELECTIONS.
IT NEVER HAPPENS.
WE WOULD HAVE
TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE HOW WE ELECT PRESIDENTS, MAYBE JUST
MAKE IT A POPULAR VOTE, THAT MIGHT DO IT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE
TO CHANGE THAT.
AND PROBABLY SHOULD, BECAUSE WE ALL BENEFIT I
THINK FROM HAVING A THIRD-PARTY.
BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT HAPPENING
IN THIS ELECTION, I DON'T THINK IT'S HAPPENING IN THE NEXT ONE
EITHER.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT SYSTEM OTHERWISE IT'S SIMPLY TOO
HARD TO GET TO WHAT IS NOW 270 VOTES.
IF JILL STEIN WAS POLLING A LITTLE HIGHER, MY THEORY IS THAT
HILLARY WOULD STOP COURTING REPUBLICANS AND FINALLY TRY TO
GET PROGRESSIVES.
WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
BECAUSE SHE'S NOT COMING.
FIRST OF ALL, WE WILL FIND OUT.
KEN SALAZAR?
IF WE ARE GOING TO MENTION SALAZAR, DO WE GET TO MENTION
OTHER NAMES?
ROHIT CHOPRA?
SOME SOLID PROGRESSIVES THAT THE BERNIE CAMP IS HAPPY WITH,
THAT ARE NOW PART OF THE CLINTON TEAM.
YOU GUYS ARE BOTH RIGHT,
WE DID A WHOLE STORY ON HOW AWFUL SALAZAR IS, AND IT SHOWS
THAT SHE WILL GO IN THE CORPORATE DIRECTION.
I GUESS I
WOULD ADD THIS, WHICH I THINK IS MONUMENTALLY IMPORTANT -- VOTING
FOR SOMEONE DOESN'T MEAN YOU LOVE HER, YOU SUPPORT EVERYTHING
SHE DOES, AND YOU BELIEVE IN HER AND YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
EVERYTHING SHE'S EVER DONE IN THE PAST AND WILL DO IN THE
FUTURE.
IT JUST MEANS SHE IS SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN THE OTHER
PEOPLE IN THE RACE, THAT'S HOW VOTING WORKS.
I KNOW A LOT OF
PEOPLE THINK THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR
ALTERNATIVE THEORY IS.
SO IF YOU LIVE IN A COMPLETELY BLUE STATE
OR A COMPLETELY RED STATE, YOU GET TO HAVE FUN DOING THOSE
THINGS.
AND BY THE WAY I DON'T MEAN TO DISMISS THAT BECAUSE
THERE IS SOME VALUE IN IT.
TO JIMMY'S POINT, IF JILL STEIN
DOES REALLY WELL OR IF YOU ARE A LIBERTARIAN IF GARY JOHNSON DOES
WELL IN SOME OF THOSE BLUE OR RED STATES, MAYBE THAT GIVES
THEM MORE CREDIBILITY FOR FUTURE ELECTIONS.
I THINK THAT'S A FAIR
POINT.
IF YOU LIVE IN A SWING STATE, HE ALSO DOES THAT BUT
THEN YOU ARE MAKING A REAL CHOICE ABOUT WHICH DIRECTION YOU
ARE GOING.
BUT TO ME, GUYS, THE ELECTION IS WAY OVERHYPED, I
KNOW WE ARE GUILTY OF IT TOO, BUT EITHER WAY WE WILL HAVE TO
FIGHT EITHER CANDIDATE ON ALL OF THE THINGS JIMMY LISTED.
SO THE
REAL FIGHT IS THE REVOLUTION, THE REVOLUTION IS AN AMENDMENT,
IF YOU DON'T GET THE MOMENT TO GET MONEY OUT OF POLITICS, THE
NEXT ELECTION WE WILL HAVE THE SAME STUPID CONVERSATION.
TO ME
A THIRD-PARTY WILL NOT CHANGE THE SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY AS DEEPLY
ENTRENCHED AS IT IS, AS BEN JUST EXPLAINED WITH THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE, ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS AN AMENDMENT WILL CHANGE THE
SYSTEM.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT AN AMENDMENT IS, IT CHANGES THE
SYSTEM.
SO YOU ARE DREAMING UPON A DREAM, AND BUST YOUR HEART, I
DON'T WANT TO SQUASH DREAMS, THAT MANY, MANY ELECTIONS FROM
NOW THAT A THIRD-PARTY HAS GAINED ENOUGH CREDIT ABILITY
THAT THEY CAN WIN, THAT THE GREAT DREAM AND I JOIN YOU IN
THAT DREAM.
BUT MEANWHILE AN AMENDMENT IS ACTUALLY 1000 TIMES
MORE IMPORTANT, MORE RELEVANT, MORE EFFECTIVE, AND ACTUALLY
MUCH MORE DOABLE.
SO LET'S ALL GET THE AMENDMENT TOGETHER,
SCREW THIS GOD DAMN ELECTION, WE THINK YOU CAN DO IT THROUGH
WOLF-PAC.COM, VOLUNTEER, BECOME A MEMBER, FIGHT THE FIGHT, AND
THEN YOU WILL BE SURPRISED AT HOW WELL THE ELECTIONS TURNOUT
AT HOW WELL THE CANDIDATES DO, THIRD-PARTY OR NOT, IF YOU GET
THE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS.
I KNOW BECAUSE WE HAD A SYSTEM
LIKE THAT, IN THE 1970S RALPH NADER GOT RICHARD NIXON, WHO WAS
A LITTLE PAST ATTILA THE HUN, TO PASS THE EPA AND OSHA.