as
when you see
e the emi because over the past year we've seen
three
she s it seems to me or at least we hit the tipping point on on three major
issues
uh... marriage equality
or the high think in terms of uh... uh...
um...
uh... women's right to choose
and and now we're seeing it with gun control where the they have now become
um... uh... there now perceived at least
by
the center and the center-left
to be
winning political positions in a way that they haven't been
um... well in some instances ever but certainly um...
view over the past ten twelve years
and demographically speaking it seems like those changes are going to be
locked in in other words you know we're not going to see we're going to see
democrats run
a harder on a woman's right to choose and that we're gonna see the marriages
equality seems to be almost off the table at this point as a political issue
going for it i mean at least in terms of national politics
um... or at least uh... as them
indo four it was it was up all the plan by roads to to help george bush in now
uh... that that
same planning twenty sixteen year twenty twelve is essentially would be like a
suicide plan in terms of lean-to republican aspirations and now we see
the numbers on gun control also uh... change
what's going on
immediately collect money my sense is it's going to sort of
create an even more
if you are in vera lynn strain of this conspiracy but it's going to be more
for medically sealed which is going to make
in resonate even more
oh you know
again if you if you click
and i think you know right
so if you go back and we went we were a member of the role of the vote years
fifty or years
at that time of farm one liberal triumphant return either
wrote the book got elected during upgrade
during last terrible depressions
he um... people wrote keynesian stimulus to bear on the economy
he did he you know you utopia public works
hubert skip the economy hickory he proposal security and to be in haiti
but you know if you actually go back to the thirties and you look at what was
going on
they don't lack was perpetually disappointed with roosevelt he wasn't
going far enough
and the right was hearing a lot of and at what they want more concerned about
and talked about anything
was in other words developed into one of like that you were four and europe
and they want to stay out of europe
and they wanted to they didn't want to take back control of the prospect that
what he was social life in the country
i think we're going to you know i i think
the culture
is changing and why is
or at tomorrow fine for the right now if that were black lab
because you know
demographically and culturally
loopnet were were were dated they can't get it back that they can't get it back
with our urban culture were uh... were much more diverse culture
and the arm
you know and and and we're not a common culture what i've come to your culture i
mean or
uh...
but what scares me i mean i'm quite optimistic
that we're gonna be in and more liberal in quotes of
contrary
and fifty years
i'm calcutta
that the right its point do you think
both the tools of propaganda and disinformation and the political tools
of gerrymandering that info over again in taiwan
tip to keep our and arm
sir thank you very very dangerous for the left and and and i a return for
quite a while
because
because we're doing awhile
were and such danger
uh...
and again none of this is no
you know um...
the demers asl let me just i'm gonna ask you begin your sense from a political
standpoint because one of the unum
my disappointments with the uh... with
the the so called left in this country's that on a popular economic in a
populated omics sense
that it is very much uh... adopted
neoliberal policies
and i wonder if
what's happening socially amend certainly president obama i think is
move much further uh... maybe not the speed of people accompanies moving much
for the
on uh... social issues to the last thirty years in terms of economic issues
anta
in in mid may be disagree with that assessment but i wonder if yes
what is happening on the right
vende ultimately puts into play economic issues i mean once we've cleared the
deck in some respects
um... of social issues so that the center is holding on does uh... doesn't
open up uh...
um... the the question of
of a debate on economic issues
uh... meow american on my pension
uh... c_i_a_
you know i i
i think that that there's a huge thing going on that to war
did they do the both of them implemented that pork is what the conspiracy
theorists can i thought that though
i mean i think what we we have
rebecca capital it from him for his
so much for at this point
that'd welcome perot anymore i mean i think
big big big big break capitalist motor of triomphe
the developed world leaders program i broke up
and i think that
extend really really difficult
four days
the president of the president of the united states whether it's a democrat a
republican
is not yet able to find out
and i don't know
and i think that the economic issues are so bad
and the bomb
in other united six isn't it isn't such
we'll we'll tweet we're we're losing our middle class
and that and that's what people where apo schoolwork
it's producing
a few very high-paying jobs
at a lot of well-paying jobs a lot of appointment
and two p the it's doing exactly know capital of the most inclined to maximize
returns happened and that's how it works
and the arm
her capitalism offenders during unsustainable possession
and uh...
i'd really i don't know what's gonna happen what uh...
way more
do you think that what what with what's happening in terms of of the
demographics and the sort of the move to the left if you will on social issues
that that that issue of
the the failure of capitalism to address what our society needs at this point
he's gonna get he's going to be addressed more or do we consider we
initiate uh... in some way being
uh...
out this katie by the
these sort of these these either the social issues or the sort of the
conspiracies that are meant to address
you know and you know you see more and you know because it is an accent
my volley said that you know without alex jones
uh... saying that it's a function of you know some type of one world cup all
people the his listeners might actually have to say like
hey there is uh... interests of there's an aligned interests at airline interest
amongst a certain group of people in society thus far broader than people
work in a dancing around a burning owl
or whatever it is
uh... and
day daisy that this is really more of the class struggle than it is a secret
cobol
your body
i mean i bright one hundred percent agree with you
and again i think you go back in history
why did the bar
why why did the guard secret police
come up with the protocol for the elders of zion why did they create the document
that was meant to
turn people attention to the truth
because say we're trying to paper sar
in other there but there was a there with the specialist revolution going on
that turned into a communist revolution and that's what's one of their
propaganda effort
to keep think the way they were
and one of the things that i see right now you know
system that's failing telling fifty mccoy
but at that same time that it sale on
um...
it's treating one now to a factor of the population very well
and it's interesting because allot of the people that are doing well
by capital will come right now are not like blenders you know they've paid off
a lot of the people that are doing
but after economic way they're also for crap that people who are employed
and uh... arm
deadlock repaired
still look past but system into the creek now
and you know
i don't think it's sustainable
and what i worry about this that you could really have
uh...
with the help of of conspiracy theory of the help of a
up an angry way
euclid see the kind of corporate pressure from
it something i could really picture happened
on the other hand you could see an arm
slowly
uh...
but maybe faster than you continue with the bank
and the way the bike day bike happened how much faster than you would have
thought ten years ago
electorate in this country looking more and more like european social club
because
it happen
now let's not get uh... you know but as people say social implement them
the motor for prosperity of the capital of the most
but when you have foam
when you don't have a middle-class anymore you can't really talk about
that's great motor for prosperity no it's not really the one percent of click
the twenty percent
that it's unsustainable christopher twenty percent either what were in
trouble
and um... and the other funny thing about all the conspiracy theory
is the like if you listen to alex townspeople economics perspective
enhancers
telling you that's recycled hundred years ago
their student very
these as potential for real downfall right now
and people are doing and how awful
yeah i mean
uh... it's it's it's it's
what what were at a at a huge point we don't they don't know which way it's
going to go but we we are really at a hundred points
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