>>> WELCOME BACK, WHILE MANY REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS ARE GOING
AFTER THE PRESIDENT’S DECISION
TO WITHDRAWAL TROOPS FROM SYRIA,
ONE IS DEFENDING AND APPLAUDING
THE PRESIDENT’S MOVE.
A REPUBLICAN SENATOR FROM
KENTUCKY, RAND PAUL, IS JOINING
ME.
ME. BEFORE WE GET TO THE BOOK, I
KNOW YOU SUPPORT THE MOVE TO
WITHDRAW TROOPS, WHAT DO YOU
THINK OF THE SANCTIONS ON
TURKEY?
TURKEY? IT HAS NOT CAUSED TURKEY TO BACK
DOWN IN ANY WAY.
>> WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHEN WE
SHOULD GO TO WAR AND WHEN WE
SHOULD INVOLVE OUR YOUNG MEN AND
WOMEN.
WOMEN. CONGRESS IS SUPPOSED TO DECLARE
WAR.
WAR. THE PROBLEM IS THIS SITUATION IS
SO MESSY WHO DO YOU WANT TO
DECLARE WAR ON?
THEY’RE ALIGNED WITH THE FREE
SIIAN ARMY IN A WE SUPPORTED FOR
SEVEN YEARS.
SEVEN YEARS. ON THE OTHER SIDE WE HAVE ASAD,
RUB SHANS, AND THE IRAN AND I
THINK THE IRONY ABOUT ALL OF
THIS, BUT THE IRONY BHA THAT IT
MAY BE THEIR BEST CHANCE FOR
HAVING A SEMIAUTONOMOUS AREA
THAT IS KURDISH, BUT IT WILL NOT
HAPPY UNLESS THE TURKS FEEL
COMFORTABLE WITH SYRIA NOT
ALLOWING INCUSHIONS.
ALLOWING INCUSHIONS. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE EWE SAYING WHY
DON’T WE LET THIS PLAYOUT, BUT
LINDSEY GRAM SAID MAKING A
MISTAKE LIKE THAT IS WHAT WE SAW
HAPPEN IN THE LAST
ADMINISTRATION AND YOU COULD LET
SOMETHING LIKE ISIS RESERVE.
WE KNOW WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN IN
THE LAST 48 HOURS AN ISIS FLAG
BEING RAISED AGAIN, AND FOR
AMERICANS SAYING THEY ARE NOT
GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT
IS HAPPENING 9,000 MILES AWAY,
THEY DO REMEMBER 9/11.
>> LINDSEY GRAHAM WAS WRONG
ABOUT THE IRAQ WAR.
IT MADE IRAN STRONGER, HE WAS
WRONG ABOUT THE WAR IN LIBYA, IT
LEAD TO MORE CHAOS AND MORE
TERRORISM.
TERRORISM. HE IS WRONG ABOUT THIS.
HE HAS BEEN WRONG SINCE P
BEGINNING BECAUSE MANY LIBERALS,
THEY ALL SUPPORTED THE SUNNI
EXTREMISTS AGAINST ASSAD.
I’M NOT SO SURE THAT THE
EXTREMIST WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER
THAN ASSAD.
THAN ASSAD. SOMETIMES MAYBE YOU HAVE TWO
SEVENS AND YOU DON’T HAVE TO
PICK SIZED.
PICK SIZED. THAT IS WHAT WE’RE SUPPOSED TO
VOTE ON AND HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT
WHEN GO TO WAR.
THE ONLY WAY YOU DETERMINE IF WE
HAVE SOMEONE SHOULD WE SEND OUR
KIDS TO WAR, BUT 40 SOLDIERS
OVER THERE WERE A DETERN TO
NOTHING, AND I THINK IT WAS A
GOOD IDEA TO GET THOSE 50
SOLDIERS OUT OF THE WAY.
>> I THINK WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE
CONCERNED, BUT WE DON’T HAVE TO
OCCUPY ACREAGE ALL OVER THE
WORLD.
WORLD. BUT IF THOR THIS I HAVE THAT WE
HAVE TO BE EVERYWHERE TO STOP
TERRORISM, THEN WE SHOULD BE IN
MANY MORE PLACES.
WE HAVE TROOPS IN 50 OF 55
NATIONS AND WE OCCUPY LITTLE
SWATHS.
SWATHS. MAYBE WE EXCITE TERRORISM BY THE
PEOPLE BEING UNHAPPY THAT WE’RE
THERE.
THERE. >> LET’S TALK CAPITOL HILL.
FIONA HILL SPOKE ABOUT RUDE EYER
GIULIANI AND HIS ATTEMPT TO
CREATE SHADOW POLICY, DOES THAT
BOTHER YOU?
BOTHER YOU? >> I DON’T HAVE ANY INSIGHT.
I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
UKRAINE SITUATION AND THE
ACCUSATIONS OF THE PRESIDENT,
BEING INVOLVED WITH WHO WOULDING
AIDE, I THINK EVERYBODY IS
TRYING TO TELL UKRAINE WHAT TO
DO.
DO. WE HAD THREE SENATORS THAT SAID
IF THEY DIDN’T INVESTIGATE TRUMP
THEY WOULD WHO WOULDVOTE TO WITH
THEIR AID.
THEIR AID. I THINK WE HAVE NO MONEY TO SEND
TO THEM ANYWAY.
IT INVOLVES US IN OTHER PEOPLE’S
WARS AND I THINK IT LEADS TO
REALLY MESSY SITUATIONS.
>> ARE YOU INTERESTED IN
UNDERSTANDING FURTHER WHAT IT IS
THAT RUDY JOULEGIULIANI IS DOING
ARE YOU NOT CURIOUS?
>> THAT IS ALMOST AS MUCH AS
HUNTER BIDEN MADE.
IF WE WANT TO INVESTIGATE RUDY
GIULIANI’S FINANCIAL DEALINGS,
DO IT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE
FAIR, YOU SHOULD INVESTIGATE
HUNTER BIDEN AS WELL.
>> SO SHOULD WE LOOK DEEPER HOW
JARED KUSHNER’S FAMILY GOT
MONEY, HOW IVANKA TRUMP GOT
TRADEMARKS FROM CHINA.
>> IF WE WANT TO GO DOWN THE
ROAD OF SELF CONSTRUCTION.
BOTH SIDES ARE DOING THAT, NO
ONE SHOULD EXCUSE THEMSELVES AND
SAY WE’RE HOLIER THAN THOU AND
TRUMP IS EVIL.
IF WE WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE
AND CRIMINALIZE POLITICS, THEN
WE SHOULD, BUT SHOULDN’T WE DO
IT FAIRLY.
IT FAIRLY. SHOULDN’T WE ADDRESS IT IN A
FAIR, OBJECTIVE, AND EQUAL WAY.
>> THEN TAKE THE PRESIDENT OUT
OF THIS.
OF THIS. IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ANY
SITTING PRESIDENT TO ASK A
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO DO WORK
INVESTIGATING A POLITICAL
OPPONENT?
OPPONENT? EVEN IF IT WASN’T PRESIDENT
SFLUMP.
SFLUMP. >> IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR HUNDRED
DOLLARER BIDE TON MAKE $600,000
A YEAR -- THAT DOESN’T ANSWER MY
QUESTION.
QUESTION. TAKE THE PRESIDENT OUT OF THE
EQUATION.
EQUATION. >> IT’S THE SAME QUESTION.
>> IS ANY SITTING PRESIDENT,
IT’S EXACTLY THE SAME QUESTION
THOUGH.
THOUGH. IF WE SAY WE’RE GOING TO
INVESTIGATE JULIANNY, THE
PRESIDENT, AND MORE, IF YOU WANT
TO BE OBJECTIVE AND FAIR YOU TO
DO THE SAME FOR HUNTER BIDEN.
THERE HAS BEEN NO INVESTIGATION.
>> HE IS NOT AN ELECTED
OFFICIAL, SIR.
OFFICIAL, SIR. >> MOST AMERICANS THINK MAKING
$50,000 A MONTH FOR A YOUNG MAN
WITH NO EXPERIENCE IN
INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS IS
REALLY UNUSUAL.
REALLY UNUSUAL. HIS DAD WENT TO UKRAINE 13 TIMES
AND HE IS MAKING $50,000 A
MONTH.
MONTH. THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
>> MOST AMERICANS WOULD ALSO SAY
IT IS STRANGE THAT BILL BARR’S
SON-IN-LAW WORKS AT THE WHITE
HOUSE.
HOUSE. RUDY GIULIANI’S SON-IN-LAW WORKS
AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> THE PRESIDENT’S FAMILY IS NOT
PAID.
PAID. I THINK GIULIANI’S SON PROBABLY
MAKES LESS THAN $100,000 A YEAR.
I DON’T THINK ANYONE IS GETTING
RICH GETTING PAID BY GOVERNMENT.
THAT IS ALL ON THE UP AND UP.
AND I THINK AMERICANS ARE GOING
TO MAKE A JUDGMENT ON THAT EVEN
IF THE MEDIA EXCUSES IT AND
DOESN’T INVESTIGATE IT, BUT IF
YOU WANT TO GO AFTER TRUMP YOU
HAVE TO EQUALLY LOOK AT THE
BIDENS AND THE TESTIMONIES THAT
HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE AID
SAYING HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT AND
IS IT THE SAME.
DO YOU TAKE ISSUE WITH ALL OF
THE FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS, TURKEY
MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE, PAYING TO
THE TRUMP HOTELS, AND THAT MARCH
MARCH -- MAR-A-LAGO --
>> IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC FACILITY
AND THAT IS YOUR BUSINESS, WHAT
IF I OWNED THE PAUL HOTEL DOWN
THE STREET AND I CHARGE THE
NORMAL RATES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO
TELL ANYONE THAT OWNS A
RESTAURANT OR RETAIL STORE THEY
CAN’T DO BUSINESS.
IF THEY’RE CHARGING SOMEONE TEN
TIMES THE RATE OR THEY’RE NOT
SLEEPING IN THE HOTEL, THERE IS
SOMETHING WRONG.
SOMETHING WRONG. THAT IS SOMETHING WRONG.
>> IF ANY OF THOSE ARE BOOKED
AND NO ONE IS SLEEPING IN THEM.
>> YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM
IF THEY WERE BOOKING THE ROOMS,
PAYING LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY,
AND NO ONE IS SLEEPING IN THERE
THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
>> POLITICO SAYS THAT THAT IS
HAPPENING.
HAPPENING. NOW YOUR BOOK SAYS PEOPLE
LOOKING AT INCOME EQUALITY YOU
SAY "PART OF THE PROBLEM IS
EXAMINING UNEQUAL INCOMES IS
THAT WE FAIL TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT
YOU CAN BUY.
IF IF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN YOUR
PAYCHECK IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO
FEED, FAMILY, GET MEDICINE, OR
PUT YOUR KID THROUGH SCHOOL.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE POORIST IN
OUR SOCIETY, THEY DO AS WELL AS
THE MIDDLE CLASS IN MOST
SOCIETIES.
SOCIETIES. OUR ECONOMIC PIE HAS DOUBLED
EIGHT TIMES IN THE LAST 200
YEARS, OUR ECONOMIC PIE IS
GROWING AND GROWING AND GROWING.
THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT
INCOME INEQUALITY, THEY HAVE
ALMOST NO INCOME INEQUALITY
THERE.
THERE. YOU FIND THAT THE MEASURE INCOME
INEQUALITY THE MORE ECONOMIC
GROWTH.
GROWTH. PEOPLE ARE MISGUIDED, IT SHOULD
NOT BE THAT YOUR FRIEND MAKES
TEN TIMES MORE THAN YOU, IT
SHOULD BE MORE ABOUT HOW MUCH
YOU MAKE.
YOU MAKE. WE COULD EQUALIZE EVERYTHING
THIS, OR WOULD YOU RATHER LIVE
IN A SOCIETY WHERE THE POOR MAKE
60,000 AND THE RICH MAKE $10
MILLION.
MILLION. I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE
POOREST AMONG US, WE’RE DOING A
BETTER JOB AT IT UNDER CAPITAL
IISM THAN SOCIALISM AROUND THE
WORLD.
WORLD. >> THE ANSWER DOESN’T HAVE TO BE
CAPITALISM OR SOCIALISM.
IF YOU’RE LOOKING AT THE LATEST,
THE ISSUE IS THAT CAPITALISM IS
NOT WORKING FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE.
WHEN YOU SEE THE AVERAGE WORKER
ONLY INCREASING THEIR PAY 12% IN
THE LAST 13 YEARS AND CEO PAY
GOING UP 5 THOUGHT%.
I AM HARD PRESSED TO FIND MANY
PEOPLE WHO SAY IT IS SOCIALISM
ALL OF THE WAY.
>> BERNIE SANDERS IS RUNNING AS
A SOCIALIST.
A SOCIALIST. AOC IS A SOCIALIST.
IF YOU READ THEIR WEBSITE
THEY’RE FOR GOVERNMENT OWNERSHIP
OF THE INDUSTRY.
SO YOU HAVE TO ASK IF THEY’RE
GOING TO OWN THE INDUSTRY, WHAT
DO THEY COME WITH?
HOW DO THEY GET THE OWNERSHIP OF
THE FACTORIES INTO GOVERNMENT
HANDS AND HAS IT EVER WORKED.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS
WE FIND GENOCIDE AND FAMEN.
WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE
RAMIFICATIONS OF WHEN WE HAVE
TRIED SOCIALISM.
TRIED SOCIALISM. >> DO YOU CONSIDER MEDICARE OR
MEDICAID FORMS OF SOCIALISM?
>> WHEN BERNIE SAYS HE WANTS TO
BE LIKE DENMARK, BUT SCANDINAVIA
IS FREER THAN MANY, THEY HAVE
PRIVATE PROPERTY --
>> BUT THEY HAVE HIGH TAXES.
>> YOU CAN ALL OF THE STUFF THEY
HAVE IN SCANDINAVIA BY TAXING
JUST THE TOP 1%.
IN SKANDCANDINAVIA THAT TAX THE
AND THE MIDDLE.
THE MIDDLE CLASS HAS A 60%
INCOME TAX STARTING AT $60,000.
IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT
AMERICAN SOCIALISTS ARE SAYING.
WE KEEP ASKING ARE YOU GOING TO
RAISE TAXES IN THE MIDDLE CLASS
AND SHE IS WAFLING ON THE MIDDLE
CLASS, IF YOU WANT ALL OF THIS
SO-CALLED FREE STUFF, YOU HAVE
IT, AND THE MIDDLE CLASS HAS TO
PAY FREE TAXES.
>> ELIZABETH WARN SAYS SHE
SPORTS FREE MARKETS.
SHE TOOK A CLOSER LOOK AT BANKS
AND PUT TOGETHER A CFPB.
THE FOCAL RULE OR DODD FRANK,
NEITHER WANTED TO BAN ANYTHING,
THEY JUST WANTED TO PUT GUARD
RAILS ON TO PROTECT INDIVIDUALS.
>> I THINK ELIZABETH WARREN SE
SMARTER AND MORE COY ABOUT HER
BELIEF IN LARGE GOVERNMENT, BUT
HER POLICIES IN BERNIE’S PARTY
ARE NOT TOO MUCH DIFFERENT.
>> WHAT POLICY DO YOU MEAN
SPECIFICALLY FROM ELIZABETH
WARREN.
WARREN. >> ONE OF THE BIGGEST IS
MEDICARE FOR ALL IF IS ESTIMATED
TO COST $60 TRILLION.
HOW WILL WE PAY FOR THAT?
SO SHE HAS TO ANSWER THE
QUESTION WHICH IS HOW DO YOU PAY
FOR A $60,000 PROGRAM WITHOUT
TAXES THE MIDDLE CLASS,
EVERYBODY PAYS THESE TAXES AND
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WILL
WE PAY FOR THE PASSIVE $60
BILLION PROGRAM SHE PROPOSED FOR
US.
US. >> THE LAST I LOOKED AT THE
PHOTOGRAPH DEFICIT, IT IS AT THE
HIGHEST LEVEL IT HAS BEEN IN ST
12 YEARS.
12 YEARS. >> REVENUE HAS GONE UP, SINCE
THE TAX CUT, REVENUES HAVE GONE
UP, WE HAVE LOWER RATES AND MORE
TAX CUTS THAT THAT HAVE COME IN.
WE KEPT SPENDING ON THE MILITARY
AND SOCIAL WELFARE.